It's only about £90 cheaper I think. And you might get hit for import tax on top of that.
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The U.K. iPhone 4 Thread
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It's only about £90 cheaper I think. And you might get hit for import tax on top of that.
Ordered.
Just wondering though, is this a SIM Free phone Apple are selling, as I didn't see a place to select network carrier.
EDIT: Silly me. Just read it on the main pre-order page.
Just wondering though, is this a SIM Free phone Apple are selling, as I didn't see a place to select network carrier.
EDIT: Silly me. Just read it on the main pre-order page.
Just spoke to O2 about this, as I've reserved for store pickup, and I'll be upgrading my current contract.
They said that if we don't receive a micro-sim through the post, as was mentioned on one of the update emails (and it's possible ATM that we won't), then Apple will supply a blank SIM on the day of pickup which will have to be activated with your existing number. This could take upto 24 hours.
andybno1
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they are sim free you will need to get a sim card from an operator of your choice
The fact she's said they're selling white when even apple themselves arent selling it, suggest's she's just playing the guessing game 🙁
egraphixstudios
macrumors 6502
Woohoo!! my order just went through!!
Its now showing on the "my order" statud page!! woohoo!!
Keep at it guys, defo worth the effort!! 😀
Its now showing on the "my order" statud page!! woohoo!!
Keep at it guys, defo worth the effort!! 😀
Those of us that have reserved for store pickup... what's the story?
If they're first come first served I'll get there for 8AM (though that's hardly 'reserved' is it!), otherwise I might as-well just go at lunch - avoid the big queues! Unless there would be two lines, one for reservations and one for not?
If they're first come first served I'll get there for 8AM (though that's hardly 'reserved' is it!), otherwise I might as-well just go at lunch - avoid the big queues! Unless there would be two lines, one for reservations and one for not?
Ordered 😀 16gig arriving to my house on the 24th. I thought about the pick up in store option but id rather not bother with the hassle.
Can't wait for it to arrive 😀😀
Can't wait for it to arrive 😀😀
Hello,
So does this mean that they are sim free and factory unlocked. So that I just can put in any sim card I want here in Sweden?
//E
So does this mean that they are sim free and factory unlocked. So that I just can put in any sim card I want here in Sweden?
//E
ste1164
macrumors 6502a
I don't think the orange one is unlimited its 250MB I'm not sure about O2 it might be unlimited or 500MB.
Yes, but you're forgetting that if you are happy to stay locked to a single network, you can get the phone at the reduced PAYG cost - not the sim free cost.
If the payg phone (locked to a network) cost significantly less than the sim free version you will save more! We just need to wait to find out how much the payg phones are!
Regarding all this VAT stuff, if a VAT increase in announced in the budget next Tuesday then I think it highly likely (see final paragraph) that the iPhone prices will go up but I also think it incredibly unlikely that it will affect anyone pre-ordering for June 24th.
Firstly, if it happens next Tuesday then it will be an announcement of a VAT increase. Many major retailers have gone on record as saying that they would understand and accept an increase provided they were given enough notice to make the change so the government will have been lobbied hard, and probably successfully, on the timing of any change. Because of this it is virtually inconceivable that the chancellor would stand up on Tuesday and say "from midnight tonight VAT is going up" (he does do this for alcohol, tobacco and fuel duty but that's far easier for retailers to adapt to without needing global changes to their accounting and point-of-sale systems). What is far more likely is that some weeks of warning will be given of a change.
Secondly, if the change does happen quickly then Apple and the networks have a way to protect customers at no cost to themselves. With my iPad I was invoiced a couple of days before delivery, when it was technically deemed to be "shipped". With VAT the critical date is not the date you pay Apple the money, it is the invoice date (except for a small company exemption to use cash accounting for VAT, something that Apple don't do, they use invoice-date accounting) so Apple (or the networks) could invoice on 22nd of June at which point they are under the rules of the current 17.5% VAT rate.
If/when VAT does eventually go up then in theory, for the sellers to recognise the same revenue, they need to increase retail prices (e.g. if they sell something for £117.50 rrp and VAT goes up to 20% then they need to re-price at £120 rrp in order to recognise the same £100 revenue on their books). This is why I think it is "highly likely" that if/when a VAT increase is implemented (again for emphasis, "implemented" not just "announced") the prices will go up. The only way they won't is if the sellers decide to absorb the cost themselves so, in the example above, keep the price at £117.50 but need to make the 20% VAT payment to HMRC so now only bank just under £97.92 themselves. This is the point where we might get an idea of how generous a margin there is in the channel on the iPhone 4.
- Julian
Firstly, if it happens next Tuesday then it will be an announcement of a VAT increase. Many major retailers have gone on record as saying that they would understand and accept an increase provided they were given enough notice to make the change so the government will have been lobbied hard, and probably successfully, on the timing of any change. Because of this it is virtually inconceivable that the chancellor would stand up on Tuesday and say "from midnight tonight VAT is going up" (he does do this for alcohol, tobacco and fuel duty but that's far easier for retailers to adapt to without needing global changes to their accounting and point-of-sale systems). What is far more likely is that some weeks of warning will be given of a change.
Secondly, if the change does happen quickly then Apple and the networks have a way to protect customers at no cost to themselves. With my iPad I was invoiced a couple of days before delivery, when it was technically deemed to be "shipped". With VAT the critical date is not the date you pay Apple the money, it is the invoice date (except for a small company exemption to use cash accounting for VAT, something that Apple don't do, they use invoice-date accounting) so Apple (or the networks) could invoice on 22nd of June at which point they are under the rules of the current 17.5% VAT rate.
If/when VAT does eventually go up then in theory, for the sellers to recognise the same revenue, they need to increase retail prices (e.g. if they sell something for £117.50 rrp and VAT goes up to 20% then they need to re-price at £120 rrp in order to recognise the same £100 revenue on their books). This is why I think it is "highly likely" that if/when a VAT increase is implemented (again for emphasis, "implemented" not just "announced") the prices will go up. The only way they won't is if the sellers decide to absorb the cost themselves so, in the example above, keep the price at £117.50 but need to make the 20% VAT payment to HMRC so now only bank just under £97.92 themselves. This is the point where we might get an idea of how generous a margin there is in the channel on the iPhone 4.
- Julian
