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The U.K. iPhone 4 Thread
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If helps anyone...
Phoned my Apple store about my reservation
Confirmed my name was still on the reservation list (checked the other day
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Confirmed that you can come in anytime that day and pick it up
Confirmed its not a problem to choose between PAYG/PAYM/SIMFREE
Hope it helps now just have to deal with getting a sim card up and running. Will try getting a PAYG micro sim from o2/orange on the 24th but have Ordered o2/orange/giffgaff PAYG sims, and ipad sim (just to get the idea of the size if i need to cut up standard sims if i cant get a microsim)
Phoned my Apple store about my reservation
Confirmed my name was still on the reservation list (checked the other day
)Confirmed that you can come in anytime that day and pick it up
Confirmed its not a problem to choose between PAYG/PAYM/SIMFREE
Hope it helps
now just have to deal with getting a sim card up and running. Will try getting a PAYG micro sim from o2/orange on the 24th but have Ordered o2/orange/giffgaff PAYG sims, and ipad sim (just to get the idea of the size if i need to cut up standard sims if i cant get a microsim) When Rabbit starts selling iphones.
Or
Get a simfree one from apple, and use any carrier. O2, orange, vodafone, tmobile,tesco,3, giffgaff, rabbit, att
O2 lied to me on the phone last year, twice! Once about unlimited text bolt ons and once about VAT. So i think they are all bad.
mine has not changed. I would not worry about it... it does say will be delivered on the 24th
I posted this a few pages back but may have been lost in the heavy traffic here Do you check at the uk online store as this does not have a prepared for shipment status and only changes once shipped.
If you log into the us store and then check you order status if it is prepared for shipment it will show there.
Well, I've just popped into both o2 stores in Liverpool and was told to come back on Thurs!
One store told me that theres misinformation on the website and in the other store the assistant condescendingly asked me if i had an iPhone 4! When i mentioned that iv got a reservation for Thurs he rudely told me to come back then.
Hope i get one through the post otherwise ill pop in on Monday with a printout of the website and demand a microsim.
One store told me that theres misinformation on the website and in the other store the assistant condescendingly asked me if i had an iPhone 4! When i mentioned that iv got a reservation for Thurs he rudely told me to come back then.
Hope i get one through the post otherwise ill pop in on Monday with a printout of the website and demand a microsim.
A few percent of inflation won't have too much relevance, but what will is the residual value of the phone at the end of the contract.
After an 18 month contract, a phone will be vastly more re-sellable to be worth £80 to £150 more in terms of resale value than a 24 month old device.
You also need to consider;
1. The annual revamp of the iPhone. Although I would suspect that next years model will look visually similar, helping to keep its value.
2. An 18 month contract expires in the middle of a development year, so will you be holding out for the next model, in which case a 24 month contract makes sense or paying off your 18 month contract 6 months early to renew every year.
3. How heavily will you be using the phone. If you are a very heavy user and opt for a 24 month contract, the device might not actually last until the end of the contract, or at least might look very worn out, affecting resale value.
4. Each of the carriers has different data plans and some include additions in their plan such as European minutes / data. So choosing which plan is best for you, depends on more than your general UK usage.
If only we new what the 5th and 6th generation iPhones had in store, then we could decide more easily whether 18 or 24 month is best
Agreed, a few percent inflation doesn't make too much of a difference but it is still something that should be factored in. I have been appraising each of the different options using a discount rate of 4% as that is my average annual pay increase. Good point about residual value - one would have to make assumptions (just like with the discount rate) on the difference between 18 & 24 mth RVs. I have only been considering the 18mth options as I would like to have the opportunity of paying off contract 6mths early - I probably wouldn't though, but nice to have the option. I had my 3G since launch day, so maybe it is worth considering a two year contract.
I'm not desperate for the iPhone 4 straight away, so have a bit of time to consider what option is best for me. I will probably go and have a look in the O2/Orange/Vodafone/T-Mobile stores next Friday afternoon and decide then.
BTW, are you an Accountant or have a job in finance?
I have a plan! I am going to go down to carphone warehouse who say that all new customers are welcome to join vodafone unlike I was told in a vodafone shop this morning. At the same time I am going to see if I can order one online from the website as I sit and wait. they have told me over the phone that they will be selling it from the 24 and can send it out next day delivery if I order it early on my iPad that way if the shop fail at least I have got one online.
i tried the us store but it showed the same thing, but i ordered 30 mins after preorders went up on the uk store on the first day so I mean im not worried, or should i be? i sold my 3gs and really miss my iphone,
thats why, i cant wait to get it back
Just Got My Orange Micro Sim In The Post!! Woohoooo!!!!
Is it tiny or is it like what the O2 micro sim is supposed to look like? like a normal sized sim but that you pop out the small micro sim part?
So you could transfer your number over to it before thursday?
Whew, caught up again! Just to throw my 2p in on coverage
I'd agree with that order for 3G and/or urban coverage.
There actually seems to be a lot of site sharing going on with 3G, probably because it has a shorter range and so needs to be hidden away somewhere within the town in a way that doesn't upset NIMBYs (very difficult) rather than being out of sight and mind in a field or out-of-town industrial estate like 2G masts. Getting planning permission for antennas in urban areas is tough, so the networks seem to agree that once they've found somewhere they all go for it. In our case, new flag poles keep mysteriously appearing on an old cinema building.
So coverage/range theoretically would be about the same, but the difference is in how quickly the networks put their equipment in. In our case T-Mobile have beaten Vodafone to it and they've always seemed to have a close relationship with 3 (long before the acquisition) so maybe I'd swap those 2 around but I'd definitely agree with 3 being first and O2 being last.
The order also seems about right for the motorways, with 3 being pretty much non-stop coverage and O2 seeing 3G maybe once or twice driving down most of the M6. The others are somewhere in the middle.
OTOH for 2G/countryside coverage:
Vodafone > Three/Orange > O2 > T-Mobile
Based on various manual network scans around the lake district and fells. Not sure about the rest of the country. I suspect O2 2G probably has quite a strong presence further south, they've always seemed to lag behind up North though.
Vodafone seems about the most balanced of the networks, but on the iPhone my priority is urban/3G coverage so I go with 3. I carry a small Vodafone (Asda) mobile for walks.
I'd probably consider Vodafone if they got 3G in this town and if 3 got a bit crap/annoying.
Unfortunately no. A handful of people think they do, but it's not been definitely stated in writing anywhere so currently it's anyone's guess. We'll know by Thursday anyway.
I would think through the networks it'll be locked. It's just the way they're used to doing things. When it comes to contracts I'm not really sure why - they're still getting the money for the contract, and heck if the person uses the phone on another network it takes the strain off theirs while they still get a profit! But they seem to enjoy the control over customers.
This I think would include buying it through Apple and specifying a network. They'll sign you up with an iPhone-specific contract or special iPhone PaYG deal where you get 12 months of 'free' internet, and in the process of activating the phone, it'd lock it to the network. Remember the way locking works on the iPhone is through Apple's servers, rather than the traditional hardware way of most phones.
SIM-free it is stated in black and white that it'll be unlocked (that's the definition of SIM-free anyway, but it's also mentioned on Apple's site). This could be the only occasion where you get it unlocked, and of course you pay the full price for it rather than £480+free internet etc.
I'd agree with that order for 3G and/or urban coverage.
There actually seems to be a lot of site sharing going on with 3G, probably because it has a shorter range and so needs to be hidden away somewhere within the town in a way that doesn't upset NIMBYs (very difficult) rather than being out of sight and mind in a field or out-of-town industrial estate like 2G masts. Getting planning permission for antennas in urban areas is tough, so the networks seem to agree that once they've found somewhere they all go for it. In our case, new flag poles keep mysteriously appearing on an old cinema building.
So coverage/range theoretically would be about the same, but the difference is in how quickly the networks put their equipment in. In our case T-Mobile have beaten Vodafone to it and they've always seemed to have a close relationship with 3 (long before the acquisition) so maybe I'd swap those 2 around but I'd definitely agree with 3 being first and O2 being last.
The order also seems about right for the motorways, with 3 being pretty much non-stop coverage and O2 seeing 3G maybe once or twice driving down most of the M6. The others are somewhere in the middle.
OTOH for 2G/countryside coverage:
Vodafone > Three/Orange > O2 > T-Mobile
Based on various manual network scans around the lake district and fells. Not sure about the rest of the country. I suspect O2 2G probably has quite a strong presence further south, they've always seemed to lag behind up North though.
Vodafone seems about the most balanced of the networks, but on the iPhone my priority is urban/3G coverage so I go with 3. I carry a small Vodafone (Asda) mobile for walks.
I'd probably consider Vodafone if they got 3G in this town and if 3 got a bit crap/annoying.
Unfortunately no. A handful of people think they do, but it's not been definitely stated in writing anywhere so currently it's anyone's guess. We'll know by Thursday anyway.
I would think through the networks it'll be locked. It's just the way they're used to doing things. When it comes to contracts I'm not really sure why - they're still getting the money for the contract, and heck if the person uses the phone on another network it takes the strain off theirs while they still get a profit! But they seem to enjoy the control over customers.
This I think would include buying it through Apple and specifying a network. They'll sign you up with an iPhone-specific contract or special iPhone PaYG deal where you get 12 months of 'free' internet, and in the process of activating the phone, it'd lock it to the network. Remember the way locking works on the iPhone is through Apple's servers, rather than the traditional hardware way of most phones.
SIM-free it is stated in black and white that it'll be unlocked (that's the definition of SIM-free anyway, but it's also mentioned on Apple's site). This could be the only occasion where you get it unlocked, and of course you pay the full price for it rather than £480+free internet etc.
i have spoken to car phone warehouse and Vodafone today and both say they have no ideas how many they are getting in and don't expect them till the morning of the 24th or the day before in the warehouse so i think it will be unlikely
Showing your age there
It'd be nice if it'd work as a landline phone as well as a mobile like the Rabbit did. I liked their femtocell type idea too, that'd nicely boost coverage at the shops, in the pub etc.
http://i798.photobucket.com/albums/yy262/cperchard/Photo010.jpg
not the best picture but thats what it is....and it comes with the adaptor so can put it in normal size sim phones too.
think i have to phone them up when i get the iphone to activate new sim and they said i can put my current number on it.
they have and are selling them sim free direct from apple negating any carrier input, there is nothing else they could or can do
No isn't in any way shape or form a valid answer to that question.
You definitely aren't an oxford student
