The U.K. iPhone 4 Thread

[Carniphage]

Three network on the iPhone4

Been using my iPhone4 for about a week with Three as the network.

1) 3G coverage is better. This could be partly better reception on the phone, but pretty much everywhere I go, I am getting 3-5 bars of speedy 3G. This was not the case with O2 where I got GPRS or Edge a lot of the time.

2) Tethering is switched-on by default. Not sure if Three realise this, but the official carrier settings definitely has Tethering turned on. Bluetooth tethering is fast and easy to set up. Pity that Apple did not include a Bluetooth PAN stack for the iPad. (Grrr!)

3) Unlike O2 - JPEGs are not being compressed by the network.

4) The bad bit. The 3 network is CENSORED. They run a content filter on the mobile network which blocks all sorts of sites - including B3TA - and forwards you to a page - which I think offers to sell you more adult content. You can get around this with (the horrible) Opera Mini.

3 will remove the block for £5 a month with an "internet bolt-on" - but I think this aspect is lame.

C.

 

[Dom.S]

Tesco an absolute shambles - be warned. Placed my order on the website tuesday afternoon. Got a confirmation email saying it's been shipped yesterday and was due for delivery today between 7am-7pm. No delivery by 7. Called them up to find out what was going on - turns out there was a problem and someone should have got in touch with me (but never). Very sorry, blah, blah. Didn't waste taking the £334 out of my credit card.

Worrying thing is you can still buy this phone online on their website when there clearly is no stock. If they're this bad to purchase - i can only imagine how bad the network is and customer service. Deals look good but they are an absolute shambles.

Identical situation to me. I've just had the phone on hold for 45 minutes trying to get my money back and eventually ran out of patience and called tesco direct instead, who picked up in about 30 seconds. I was told I'd get my money back in 2-3 days and that I could ring the tesco mobile number to order again now as they are in stock. As fun as another 45 minute wait sounds I think I'll pass.

 

[jawad7]

Identical situation to me. I've just had the phone on hold for 45 minutes trying to get my money back and eventually ran out of patience and called tesco direct instead, who picked up in about 30 seconds. I was told I'd get my money back in 2-3 days and that I could ring the tesco mobile number to order again now as they are in stock. As fun as another 45 minute wait sounds I think I'll pass.

Do you really trust them after the shambolic nature of the way they are selling them? I was all for Tesco but am now thinking twice. Imagine trying to get those monkeys to port your number over from another network? I know they may only be 12 month contracts but it's a long time to endure a poorly run network.

 

[Dom.S]

Do you really trust them after the shambolic nature of the way they are selling them? I was all for Tesco but am now thinking twice. Imagine trying to get those monkeys to port your number over from another network? I know they may only be 12 month contracts but it's a long time to endure a poorly run network.

I'm not sure, but unfortunately/fortunately for me I can take advantage of a family member's 10% staff discount so the Tesco prices are especially good. I am beginning to think it'd be best to leave it another fortnight or a month until things have calmed down though, as it's too much hassle to be worthwhile atm.

 

[troubleonline]

Sorry if this has been asked already (tried a search to no avail).......

I have decided (after some swithering and buying an ipad supposedly instead of an iP4) that I want an iP4 after all. Am on O2 and have until 24 July for their early upgrade offer.

Really want a 32GB model but O2 dont seem to have any in stock anywhere at the moment....anyone know if you can take advantage of the offer ie sign up and pay the charge and wait for the phone to come into stock??

Am going to a store at lunchtime so can ask then but wondered if anyone else in same boat - or had any success?

 

[Flumps]

Identical situation to me. I've just had the phone on hold for 45 minutes trying to get my money back and eventually ran out of patience and called tesco direct instead, who picked up in about 30 seconds. I was told I'd get my money back in 2-3 days and that I could ring the tesco mobile number to order again now as they are in stock. As fun as another 45 minute wait sounds I think I'll pass.

Oh so they do have them in then ? do you know which ones ?

 

[Dom.S]

Oh so they do have them in then ? do you know which ones ?

I didn't ask and I'd take the claim with a pinch of salt anyway. She seemed fairly confident that if I persevered I'd eventually get through and be able to order one. Who knows.

 

[Ubuntu]

Been using my iPhone for about a week with Three as the network.

1) 3G coverage is better. This could be partly better reception on the phone, but pretty much everywhere I go, I am getting 3-5 bars of speedy 3G. This was not the case with O2 where I got GPRS or Edge a lot of the time.

2) Tethering is switched-on by default. Not sure if Three realise this, but the official carrier settings definitely has Tethering turned on. Bluetooth tethering is fast and easy to set up. Pity that Apple did not include a Bluetooth stack for the iPad. (Grrr!)

3) Unlike O2 - JPEGs are not being compressed by the network.

4) The bad bit. The 3 network is CENSORED. They run a content filter on the mobile network which blocks all sorts of sites - including B3TA - and forwards you to a page - which I think offers to sell you more adult content. You can get around this with (the horrible) Opera Mini.

3 will remove the block for £5 a month with an "internet bolt-on" - but I think this aspect is lame.

C.

Mind if I ask whereabouts you live? Because I am tempted to go with Three but my dad says the reception is awful. I am studying in London and living in Dorset otherwise so I imagine it'd be good in the former but crap in the latter.

The censoring seems lame, could you post a few other sites that they've blocked? Or are they all of the same genre?
I'm with O2 at the moment and they have been pretty disappointing, although I think its the iPhone itself. I am getting alot of missed calls (without being out of range and without it telling me) which is starting to annoy me alot. Now since 4.0.1 I get a "No Sim card installed" error randomly which requires me to steal a paper clip and take the sim card out.

 

[Flumps]

I didn't ask and I'd take the claim with a pinch of salt anyway. She seemed fairly confident that if I persevered I'd eventually get through and be able to order one. Who knows.

Well ill give it ago later but who knows as thats where the Tesco website is diverting people do now so i guess its down to luck.

 

[Jezper]

I've been following this topic for a few days now. My two iPhones that I ordered were on that same plane with the bad weather problem. My order is now also in Arnhem for shipping to Hinckley UK.

However, these phones, once they arrive, are gonna ship to me in Sweden. For that, I need to arrange a pickup at the delivery address of my friend. But to do that, I need to know the weight and dimensions of the package containing two iphones.

So, if there's anyone on this board who ordered two iPhones, can you shine some light on the dimensions of the package they arrive in and if possible also give me a ball park guess on the weight of the package?

I wanna have everything prepared as soon as they arrive.

 

[03sho]

Sorry if this has been asked already (tried a search to no avail).......

I have decided (after some swithering and buying an ipad supposedly instead of an iP4) that I want an iP4 after all. Am on O2 and have until 24 July for their early upgrade offer.

Really want a 32GB model but O2 dont seem to have any in stock anywhere at the moment....anyone know if you can take advantage of the offer ie sign up and pay the charge and wait for the phone to come into stock??

Am going to a store at lunchtime so can ask then but wondered if anyone else in same boat - or had any success?

Ring up asking to leave O2.

They say why and you say that you're going to buy ip4 on vodafone or something

They then magically have ip4's in stock.

A few friends have done that, they ask to leave and then the guy on the other side suddenly has iPhone 4's for sale.

 

[Carniphage]

Mind if I ask whereabouts you live? Because I am tempted to go with Three but my dad says the reception is awful. I am studying in London and living in Dorset otherwise so I imagine it'd be good in the former but crap in the latter.

I live in the western-most part of Sheffield. Just been to Brighton too. Pretty anywhere I go - I am getting solid 3G.

I think technically 3 has the most coverage - and where it is not there - I think - 3 phones switch to Orange as a fall back.

The censoring seems lame, could you post a few other sites that they've blocked? Or are they all of the same genre?

The have bought in some kind of "adult blacklist" so any site with any kind of adult theme is blocked. But this extends to Nightclubs and bawdy comedy sites.
I am going to complain about it.

I'm with O2 at the moment and they have been pretty disappointing, although I think its the iPhone itself. I am getting alot of missed calls (without being out of range and without it telling me) which is starting to annoy me alot. Now since 4.0.1 I get a "No Sim card installed" error randomly which requires me to steal a paper clip and take the sim card out.

The Three deal was cheaper than O2 - and doubles the data allowance. You don't get access to Openzone - but I have not been impressed with Openzone. It seems to block internet access as often as it enables it.

C.

 

[JamesEsquire]

I have the 'no sim card installed' issue with my iphone 4 that i got from orange, even though i got it from orange can i still go to a genius bar for a replacement? my iphone will currently be locked to orange wont it? but obviously if apple replace it... it wont be. I would go through Orange but all they want to do is replace the sim which i know dosen't fix the issue, i will then have to go back and wait once more until they decide to replace it.

 

[WelshBluebird]

The have bought in some kind of "adult blacklist" so any site with any kind of adult theme is blocked. But this extends to Nightclubs and bawdy comedy sites.
I am going to complain about it.

Is it as bad as Orange's block? Which I seem to remember blocks many "normal" forums unless you disable the filter in your account settings.

 

[Carniphage]

Is it as bad as Orange's block? Which I seem to remember blocks many "normal" forums unless you disable the filter in your account settings.

No experience with Orange.
I do think some customers may wish a content block - but I really want the whole internet - And I resent the only way to remove it is to pay more.

Apparently Three has a non-censored APN - which it uses with its mobile broadband dongles. - but with Three's carrier settings mean you can not manually change the APN on the iPhone.

C.

 

[scottylans]

Still no word when new phones are coming in to the retail stores in the UK then?

 

[bfuk]

Still no word when new phones are coming in to the retail stores in the UK then?

o2 availability checker was showing that many stores had new stocks of the black 16g yesterday afternoon.

I got one from Dundee store last night about 5.45pm but are now showing as out of stock.

I'm assuming that they are only giving them out to 'existing customers' still though.

 

[Ubuntu]

I live in the western-most part of Sheffield. Just been to Brighton too. Pretty anywhere I go - I am getting solid 3G.

I think technically 3 has the most coverage - and where it is not there - I think - 3 phones switch to Orange as a fall back.


The have bought in some kind of "adult blacklist" so any site with any kind of adult theme is blocked. But this extends to Nightclubs and bawdy comedy sites.
I am going to complain about it.




The Three deal was cheaper than O2 - and doubles the data allowance. You don't get access to Openzone - but I have not been impressed with Openzone. It seems to block internet access as often as it enables it.

C.

Hmm, censoring comedy sites, etc, feels like a dealbreaker to me. The 3 Tariffs looked great especially with the free tethering. I'm not too happy with the O2 data allowance as before I only ever got 300mb per month, but now in almost two weeks I have apparently already hit 250mb out of 500 so I'm going to switch to Voda/3 at some point I think. Do you get any free wifi at all? On the O2 website it just said "Free Wifi" so I presumed that was The Cloud/Openzone but I actually can't log onto Openzone ones for some reason.

The 3 one is very appealing but my dad would say "what is the use of free tethering if you can't use it?" I think I'll go with Vodafone if I swap.

Thanks very much for taking the time to respond though.

 

[Ubuntu]

Still no word when new phones are coming in to the retail stores in the UK then?

If you mean Apple stores I'm not sure, but with carriers you're best off ordering online/over the phone as they seem to have priority. Could be the same for Apple.

 

[jrg_i]

O2, BT Openzone, etc.

On the O2 website it just said "Free Wifi" so I presumed that was The Cloud/Openzone but I actually can't log onto Openzone ones for some reason.

the Openzone sites that you can't log into are probably the BT/Fon and BT/Business broadband ones. Sadly the O2 deal doesn't extend to those, even though they offer an SSID of "BT OpenZone".

Very annoying, because of the iPhone's remembering an SSID and trying to connect to it automatically (you can deselect this, in settings, for any given wireless network name). Also, because it doesn't show you which wireless network it's connected to (so sometimes it can be The Cloud, which is always ok.)

(As to the other poster struggling to change APNs for 3 - can you not do it via the "iPhone Configuration Utility" and a custom profile? Give it a go... of course, your 3 account may not permit your use of the other APNs or may result in extra charges.)

 

[156457]

I don't really know how a credit card works (LOL) I know you have a cut off point where you pay it all ect but i'm not 100% on it and don't wanna piss my mum off... so here's the thing: I ordered off the Tesco Direct website, took payment then cancelled yesterday. Said payment will be back in 3-5 days. If I ring today and order from Tesco Direct (assuming they have some) what's the deal? Will the charge appear twice on the credit card or be out of pocket by £800 odd quid (£370 from tesco direct online, £370 from tesco direct on phone) until the other refund comes through?

what a nightmare. ;/

It's a Tesco Credit Card by the way, does this mean the transfer of the refund could of been instant by any chance?

 

[andybno1]

sky news been advertising they will be showing the apple conference at 6 don't know if it will be on tv but I do know they said they will be showing it on sky player

 

[156457]

sky news been advertising they will be showing the apple conference at 6 don't know if it will be on tv but I do know they said they will be showing it on sky player

Doesn't Sky Player just show a live stream of what's on the TV? (Aside from the 'catchup' aspect of it obviously) I think it'll be on TV

Anyone else think SJ will be there?

 

[uptowngirl]

Internet doesn't always work

Hi,

I've switched from O2 to Vodafone and all is good except that quite often the internet doesn't seem to work. It says there is signal (usually not 3g but gprs or edge as I live a bit rural) but then nothing will load and email's aren't coming through.

Does anyone else have this problem or know what the problem might be? If i turn the phone off and back on it sorts itself out but it's a bit of a pain.

Thanks

 

[angrywaiter]

Anyone else think SJ will be there?

Hopefully not nailed to a cross!