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iPod touch There is a new Itouch coming?!
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There has been considerable discussion on the upcoming iPod touch. Rumors state:
- September update, specifically September 9
- GPS
- Significant price drops
- "iPod2,1" (current iPod touch is "iPod1,1")
- Design to resemble the iPhone's
- 64 GB high-end
- 8 GB discontinued
- Firmware 2.1 included
- 3G (not for a phone)
- Plastic back
- Larger (≈5" display)
- $100 price drops
- Very big update
- Not a big update
- Camera
Not yet, but I heard a rumor that that functionality was coming in a future firmware update.but does it have sex with you?
Why lubricant?The lubricant makes the screen all smeary...
5" screen?? That's kind of...excessive. The 3.5" is just perfect IMO, any bigger and it wouldn't slip comfortably in my pocket, and any smaller it would lose its appeal as a premium video player/communications device.
Uh, duh, that's why you use a silicon sleeve for protection!
Doylem said:
Uh, duh, that's why you use a silicon sleeve for protection!
you are missing the point, why would apple make the touch soooo similar to the iphone? it would canibalize its sales
dont you think they could have made the touch just like the iphone the first time around minus the phone feature? obvioulsy they thought about it and designed it the way it is now.
No, you missed my point. They aren't similar due to the $2000 contract.
If I wanted an Apple phone, would I be looking at an iPod touch?
If I didn't want to pay a $2000 contract, would I be looking at an iPhone?
It's simple, and yet there are endless debates about this.
The way they designed it now was to keep the price as low as possible, make it similar to the iPhone because the tech of the iPhone is fantastic, and allow as many people as possible to get access to the App store.
And the reason they made it at all was to get people to the App store, because there is money there. The iPhone has limited market due to the coverage area of the carriers.
It is also cheaper to make something similar but trimmed down for a larger market, because the engineering is already done.
Whatever happens to the new iPT will be done to allow greater access to apps. Period. I suspect they might reduce the price and make the iPT interface the main iPod line to sell more apps, with the nano and shuffle going super cheap as intro level devices (like the shuffle is now). They will do as much they can to the Touch so it can access more apps and sell more apps.
Whether they add a mic, GPS or a speaker is speculative, but I would be surprised if it stays as is because it limits the use of apps and shuts down some revenue to Apple.
There is no way the Touch will cannibalize sales unless it can function as a reliable, continually accessible, mobile phone.
then wouldnt it have been cheaper to make the iphone without the phone? istead they really did to a redesign for the ipt. tell me how that was cheaper
the ipt has great access to the app store. the only feature that some apps use that the ipt cant utilize are those with a mic for recording and gps for location based apps. thats it
i personally think that there will be a speaker and bluetooth and thats it in the upgrade
I can especially see that if Apple either keeps the 8 GB iPod touch at $199/$249 or releases a 2.8"/3.2" "iPod touch nano" at $199 and $249.
GPS is rumored. I hope it (or the lack of it) will be a BTO option so those who don't need GPS won't have to pay as much.
i didnt have one, but DAMN dude... 25 posts per day for the last 3 months.
That's pretty close to not having a life... either that or you were DYING to have the profile picture weren't you
Not the profile picture... or I would have really slowed down after 500.i didnt have one, but DAMN dude... 25 posts per day for the last 3 months.
That's pretty close to not having a life... either that or you were DYING to have the profile picture weren't you
But seriously. I need to start posting way less. (Maybe a way for the forum software to cap daily posts at 10 or so?
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Hmm.... I just thought of something I should have mentioned earlier...
... if the iPod touch has a black/white back cover like the iPhone 3G, we will no longer be able to use the back as a mirror!
... if the iPod touch has a black/white back cover like the iPhone 3G, we will no longer be able to use the back as a mirror!
But you wouldn't have a phone. -_-; And it wouldn't have been as much of a techno-gimcrack.
The Phone was expanding a market for Apple that allows them to work up a mobile computing platform. CHEAPER is relative next to revenue. Follow the dollar, pal.
The iPod Touch is a lower order off shoot that brings in App revenue, which is no small income for Apple. The last thing you want to do is just make ONE product in ONE slice of a market when it can be modified to sell to more and more people.
The Touch is almost an iPhone, with a smaller case and some stuff missing inside. It was made to sell Apps, Tunes, Movies to those whom aren't accessing AT&T, and those unable to afford or don't need an iPhone, but still brings in Apple revenue. The iPhone was a huge success, I am not sure how they rate the Touch's success, but it can't have been bad, and it all adds to revenue of non-packaged goods (Apps). I am sure the cost of redesigning an iPhone to make a Touch was not anything close to what it took to engineer the iPhone, so the cost out vs. cost returned is probably worth it, or they wouldn't have done it.
I have a strong suspicion the 8 GB touch will be kept at the prices you mentioned because it feed the App sales, and Apple isn't going to try and be exclusive to most people and lock access to the App store from iPod owners in the future. Those Apps are almost money for nothing.
The GPS rumor is odd to me, on the Touch, just for the reason that it doesn't add a lot of use for most people while adding revenue to the App store. Maybe I underestimate GPS usage. My guess is a definite speaker so games can be played without ear pieces, but that isn't necessary for Touch usage. I can always hope.
I prefer the aluminum screens. The ones that screen porn, spam, and everything... sadly I can't see through it, but that's the drawbacks, kid.
whats your point? they have an ipod touch already that can access the app store....
the only apps it cant take use of are those that require a mic or gps. most apps do not require those either
im just saying that they will NOT make the ipt too similar to the iphone....as in everything BUT the phone capaility.
it will NOT happen as many people seem to think on here
no i didnt miss your point.
any features apple will add to the ipt will be to enhance the device as an ipod. apple clearly wants to differentiate the iphone from ipod touch. that said, i could see bluetooth and a speaker but no gps or mic
And why not? Your saying so makes it no more true. To quote iMacmatician, and also what I myself have said numerous times:
"If I wanted an Apple phone, would I be looking at an iPod touch?
If I didn't want to pay a $2000 contract, would I be looking at an iPhone?"
The two are completely separate markets, which do not compete with each other AT ALL. Period.
EDIT: In fact, I'm making that my sig.
well we will see soon enough wont we. the fact that apple didnt make the ipt just like the iphone minus the phone initially is how im thinking about the situation.
would it be cool to have gps? sure but to what extent?
at the moment, you cant access the maps without using data aka they are not on the phone. so unless there is a map package, it is useless at the moment. so depending on where apple wants to take it will dictate how useful gps will be on the touch. the fact that iphone users cant even get turn by turn apps from tom tom due to sdk issues should raise some flags
seriously what can the iphone do that the touch cant at the moment?
1) camera and this will most likely stay iphone only
2) blutooth and i think the ipt should get this
3) speaker which the ipt should have
4) gps which i think will be iphone only at the current state of things. would be cool though if apple did have something up their sleeve with a map package but we will see
5) 3g which will remain iphone only
other than that, the devices are identical! there is also the reason why the ipt has 2x the capacity as the iphone. they have to fit the gps in somewhere dont they as well as the 3g chip and whatnot
i dont think apple will sacrifice increased storage (after all the ipt is a media device first and foremost) for features found on the iphone
also based on apple's past upgrades to the ipod, nothing radical happened except for largely just upgraded space and ability for color and videos over the course of 5 years! to think that apple will suddenly radically change the ipt to be the same as the iphone without the phone is silly imo after the FIRST upgrade cycle. Even the bolded features above which i think the ipot touch should have, i wouldnt be suprised if they dont get implemented
your arguement is akin to those wanting a mid range mac that is not an all-in-one. i mean there people who are in the market for an upgradeable computer that dont want to shell out the 2-3k for the macpro yet has apple offered a solution for that even though there IS a market for it? nope they havent. however should apple offer a solution? of course