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And why not? Your saying so makes it no more true. To quote iMacmatician, and also what I myself have said numerous times:

"If I wanted an Apple phone, would I be looking at an iPod touch?

If I didn't want to pay a $2000 contract, would I be looking at an iPhone?"

The two are completely separate markets, which do not compete with each other AT ALL. Period.

EDIT: In fact, I'm making that my sig.

I'm not agreeing with either of you here, but say a person wants an iPhone. If the iPod Touch was designed like the iPhone without a carrier, but included CPS and Camera features, I would be discouraged from buying an iPhone. Instead I'd buy the iPod Touch and a cheap phone.

If you were to categorize the iPhone and the iPod Touch, they are in separate fields, one being a phone, and the other, a multi-media device. However, if both were completely identical excluding calling features, then one might be convinced just to buy the $300 iPod Touch, and have another cell phone.

As much as I'd like to see an iPod with GPS and Camera capabilities, I don't know whether it would still be an iPod. Then again, the iPod market is evolving, so it is a definite possibility, so I'm not going to rule that out. However, the iPhone should be considered exclusive, and should have more features than an iPod should.
 
I'm not agreeing with either of you here, but say a person wants an iPhone. If the iPod Touch was designed like the iPhone without a carrier, but included CPS and Camera features, I would be discouraged from buying an iPhone. Instead I'd buy the iPod Touch and a cheap phone.

Then you should be agreeing with us. Some people want everything in one device, so it all works together seamlessly. It also means a $2000 contract. Other people, like you and me, want a cheap phone and a Touch. We still need a phone, but either don't like AT&T or don't want a VERY expensive contract.

There are two distinct markets here. People aren't switching between them based on minor features even including GPS. The seamless iPhone operation of a phone and a digital media device means people won't buy a Touch if they want that seamless operation, even if the Touch is an iPhone minus only the phone.
 
I'm not agreeing with either of you here, but say a person wants an iPhone. If the iPod Touch was designed like the iPhone without a carrier, but included CPS and Camera features, I would be discouraged from buying an iPhone. Instead I'd buy the iPod Touch and a cheap phone.

If you were to categorize the iPhone and the iPod Touch, they are in separate fields, one being a phone, and the other, a multi-media device. However, if both were completely identical excluding calling features, then one might be convinced just to buy the $300 iPod Touch, and have another cell phone.

As much as I'd like to see an iPod with GPS and Camera capabilities, I don't know whether it would still be an iPod. Then again, the iPod market is evolving, so it is a definite possibility, so I'm not going to rule that out. However, the iPhone should be considered exclusive, and should have more features than an iPod should.

exactly and that is what i meant by if the ipt were too close to the iphone, it would cannibalize sales. you said it more eloquently than i have been trying to so thanks

I would like the GPS on the iPod Touch. I do not need the iPhone.

yea i would too but until there is a map package, it wont happen

in the meantime there is always garmins and such (which at the moment blow the iphones gps out of the water in terms of navigation)
 
in the meantime there is always garmins and such (which at the moment blow the iphones gps out of the water in terms of navigation)

I don't know if any phone can match up to the quality of a standalone GPS. My TomTom works fine, except for the two things I can't figure out. Why there is a house listed as a restaurant on my residential street, and why there's a hospital/clinic in the middle of a business plaza (which doesn't have a hospital/clinic). But that's beside the point. As convenient as an iPod with GPS would be, I can't see it happening (at least not yet).

The camera is a big thing for me though. I can see myself taking quick snapshots and uploading it via WiFi when I get home. And I'd still rather stick to a standalone GPS (when I start driving) unless a company like TomTom will be in charge of the maps on an iPhone or iPod Touch.
 
my god i hate these comments. you know what we are referring to

and some like my self hate it when people like you complain about others comments.

Then you should be agreeing with us. Some people want everything in one device, so it all works together seamlessly. It also means a $2000 contract. Other people, like you and me, want a cheap phone and a Touch. We still need a phone, but either don't like AT&T or don't want a VERY expensive contract.

I got Cricket and I pay $45 a month and I have no contract. So If I somehow cant pay this month, I wont be charged. They will just shut off my service untill I can pay.

Sure it would be nice to have the iphone but for $70 a month and a dumb 2 year contract = $2000 I dont think so.... Plus 16GB isnt much with apps and the contacts and phone apps...

Not gonna happen - buy an iPhone...

why not? not everyone wants an phone

you are missing the point, why would apple make the touch soooo similar to the iphone? it would canibalize its sales

dont you think they could have made the touch just like the iphone the first time around minus the phone feature? obvioulsy they thought about it and designed it the way it is now.

and? I hate the way people like you talk. :rolleyes:

you are missing my point!! lol

I think he got it. but the main thing is not everyone wants an phone or are like me are with a newer cell phone company and dont have a contract.

What's an itouch?

lol. I hate it when people call it an itouch. They dont call the nano an iNano why must they call it an iTouch?

Hello! I havent been on these forums for so long! lmao! I keep reading about this new ipod Touch coming out, what exactly is it? Does it look diffrent? What will it have?

You got it right here, now fix your title ;)

wait its
 
and some like my self hate it when people like you complain about others comments.

um ok anyone who doesnt know what an itouch is referring to (and they do know) is just posting to correct them on the product name. as long as people know what we are talking about, why does it matter?


and? I hate the way people like you talk. :rolleyes:

why, can you not understand what i write? first you criticize me for commenting on saying why people act stupid and ask what an itouch is and then you turn around and say you hate how i talk? pretty hypocritical if you ask me

lol. I hate it when people call it an itouch. They dont call the nano an iNano why must they call it an iTouch?

i refer it as the ipod touch, ipt, itouch and touch. so do many people as lets face it, ipod touch is on the longer end of product names from apple. abbreviation DO serve a purpose
 
i refer it as the ipod touch, ipt, itouch and touch. so do many people as lets face it, ipod touch is on the longer end of product names from apple. abbreviation DO serve a purpose
People get lazy on the spelling so they call it: "iTouch".

I also want to see speakers on the iPod Touch too.
 
People get lazy on the spelling so they call it: "iTouch".

I also want to see speakers on the iPod Touch too.

I when people call it itouch it makes them sound like there a pc user.....

Nut the plan of the gps i find is stupid because usually when im using a ipod im walking, and yea. + would it be able to gps around the world but thats me i dont need it for my city cause its pretty much common sence wwere i live, except new housing
 
Uninformed Speculation

I predict that the iPod touch as we know it will cease to exist—it doesn't have much of an appeal for most people in a market dominated by $199 3G iPhones anyway--and that the ipt update that is predicted for September 9 will actually be a transition to an Atom powered tablet, about 7" - 9" diagonal screen, USB, bluetooth, GPS, 802.11n, 32 or 64GB Flash, and tight iDisk integration. The OS will be iPhone-like, but with new handwriting/ink support for fingertip based writing. Apple will release this on Sept. 9 to steal the thunder of another major computer maker's Atom powered mini-notebook that will be announced the same day.

Just my two cents. Discuss.
 
I predict that the iPod touch as we know it will cease to exist—it doesn't have much of an appeal for most people in a market dominated by $199 3G iPhones anyway--and that the ipt update that is predicted for September 9 will actually be a transition to an Atom powered tablet, about 7" - 9" diagonal screen, USB, bluetooth, GPS, 802.11n, 32 or 64GB Flash, and tight iDisk integration. The OS will be iPhone-like, but with new handwriting/ink support for fingertip based writing. Apple will release this on Sept. 9 to steal the thunder of another major computer maker's Atom powered mini-notebook that will be announced the same day.

Just my two cents. Discuss.

I'm going to put this quite simple. No. The iPhone isn't ruling anything just yet. I mean, I can't afford an iPhone with a contract, and I'm not going to ask my mom to pay for it either. For high school students without a job, the iPod Touch and another cell phone works just fine. And I'm sure this doesn't apply to high school students, either. Many people want an iPhone, but are just not going to get it because of its overall price. Don't just go out saying it doesn't appeal to most people where there's a $199 iPhone 3G. It's only $199 in most people minds. They don't see the whole price. And why would Apple drop an iPod in favor for a tablet. More than likely there will be an iPod Touch, and if there is going to be a tablet, it's not going to be considered an iPod Tablet.
 
I when people call it itouch it makes them sound like there a pc user.....
There's nothing wrong with a PC. But I admit I had a "WTF moment" in my head when my ex called it an iTouch. I still don't like the sound of it. It does sound stupid. iTouch(ed you).
 
what? i dont believe ppascen is updating their itouch anytime soon. you got bad info.

as for the iPod touch, no one really knows till it happens

HA HA funny! Just give it a rest, will you? I don't understand why some people get their panties in a wad every time they hear someone say iTouch.
 
ok that was retarted...i was actually referring to the back side of the touch. i was meaning to ask if the aluminum is a better choice or the plastic...


SCREEN was a typo...and wtf does porn have to do with that??:p
 
no i didnt miss your point.


any features apple will add to the ipt will be to enhance the device as an ipod. apple clearly wants to differentiate the iphone from ipod touch. that said, i could see bluetooth and a speaker but no gps or mic
Wait… wouldn't bluetooth and a speaker make the iPod touch too close to the iPhone?

I'm not agreeing with either of you here, but say a person wants an iPhone. If the iPod Touch was designed like the iPhone without a carrier, but included CPS and Camera features, I would be discouraged from buying an iPhone. Instead I'd buy the iPod Touch and a cheap phone.
I think this comes down to one device or two.

Then you should be agreeing with us. Some people want everything in one device, so it all works together seamlessly. It also means a $2000 contract. Other people, like you and me, want a cheap phone and a Touch. We still need a phone, but either don't like AT&T or don't want a VERY expensive contract.
Those people would get a cheap phone regardless of the iPod touch's features. I myself don't have a phone, so the iPhone isn't even a consideration for me. I can also see situations where someone would prefer two devices over one, in that case they also would get a cheap phone regardless of the iPod touch's features. So those who want a phone, iPod, and GPS in one device would get the iPhone (not an iPod touch, regardless of its features).
 
Wait… wouldn't bluetooth and a speaker make the iPod touch too close to the iPhone?

but they would enchance it as an ipod.... bluetooth for stereo connections and speakers for music without headphones

the biggest draw on the ipt i think is no speakers. i have on numerous occasion tried to share a song or a youtube vid but you had to share headphones
 
Would it be completely stupid to buy a 32gb for $300 right now?

It is in nice shape, with a leather case, and ac adapter along with all box and accessories.

I really don't like the plastic backing of the iphone, and if the itouch goes in this direction, I would rather not go with it.
 
Would it be completely stupid to buy a 32gb for $300 right now?

It is in nice shape, with a leather case, and ac adapter along with all box and accessories.

I really don't like the plastic backing of the iphone, and if the itouch goes in this direction, I would rather not go with it.


...that seems a decent deal...you decide...

As far as speakers built in, they'd be nice but something that small for speakers usually sound like *****...

The Camera would be nice but it needs at least a bit of a zoom and an LED for a flash otherwise the pics suck from the iPhone so that would need the upgrade probably before the iPod Touch gets it.

GPS would be cool if you could get a reasonable cost data plan on 3G but I doubt that would happen...
 
Would it be completely stupid to buy a 32gb for $300 right now?

It is in nice shape, with a leather case, and ac adapter along with all box and accessories.

I really don't like the plastic backing of the iphone, and if the itouch goes in this direction, I would rather not go with it.
The iPods are well rumored to be updated on September 9. I think the iPod touch will look like the iPhone, except that it will have an aluminum back. The reason why the iPhone went to plastic was to better facilitate wireless signals.
 
The only thing I think the new Touch will get is GPS, and I base this on a picture of a silicone case for it that has an antenna cutout on the front. Prices for each memory level may come down to put the Touch "perceptively" in line with iPhone pricing. The naive public sees $199 for 8gb iPhone and $299 for 16gb iPhone, leading me to believe a 16gb Touch will be priced at $279 or even $249.
 
The only thing I think the new Touch will get is GPS, and I base this on a picture of a silicone case for it that has an antenna cutout on the front. Prices for each memory level may come down to put the Touch "perceptively" in line with iPhone pricing. The naive public sees $199 for 8gb iPhone and $299 for 16gb iPhone, leading me to believe a 16gb Touch will be priced at $279 or even $249.
Personally, I don't see any price cuts happening on it. People only see the $199 and $299 price tag for the phone, but not the price tag for a 2 year contract. Once more and more people realize how much money it is to own an iPhone, I think they'd be willing to settle for the current price of an iPod Touch and a cell phone. However, I can see the 8Gb model getting dropped for the line up.
 
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