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There's a New 13-Inch MacBook Pro Coming, Here's What We Know
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If M2 is released next month it will be based on A15 but may well be using an improved TSMC 4nm process, which is apparently already in high-volume manufacturing. If it comes out in Q3/Q4 it could be using A16.
It will be interesting to see if M2 arrives next month. I initially thought not, but now I think it is plausible.
All rumours point to at least some iMacs being released later this year (June?). But otherwise I agree, just finish the M1/Pro/Max line in 2 events now and bring A16 + M2 after the summer.
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Isn't that the exact same argument for including ports? That some people need them?
As I've pointed out many times, there is no such thing as a USB-C substitute for a flush-fitting USB-A flash drive (the type that look like an RF mouse dongle).
In my extremely unrealistic wishlist, I wish Apple would include USB-A and Mavericks, IMO the last workhorse version of Mac OS—and much nicer to look at, too. Along with an M-chip, nothing could beat it. With two Thunderbolt ports, a garish OS that even worse has terrible built-in apps, a lot of "no regression bugs" that haven't been fixed over countless versions of Mac OS . . . well it's why this year I'm going to give Windows a try on a Lenovo X1 Carbon Gen 10 when it comes out.
Philosophically, I don't think ports should be relegated to "pros."
Ports are not professional. They are utilitarian. And all users use their computers for utilitarian purposes, now more than ever someone who buys a computer is probably buying it for productivity/work over just media consumption, or they would just use their smartphone or tablet otherwise. I don't see anything "pro" about a person having a camera that has an SD card or having hard drives that use USB-A or heaven forbid an older person who still likes to print things to read them and has a USB printer sitting around. The "pro" port is Thunderbolt. That's the one where I don't really see "entry level" application, and yet it's the only one available on the lower-cost models. Relegating SD cards and other ports for computers that start at $2,000 to designate them as pro is just silly. It's not a more premium feature or feature for more advanced users; it's a utilitarian feature that the "common folk" have been using for decades with their computers. Apple will often simplify things (like their failed experiment with Documents in the Cloud because they thought a file manager was too confusing for people) so that they create a worse, more confusing experience, forgetting that people are generally competent and have been using computers for decades—and that they like computers because they are computers.
That would Make sense to me. I imagine there would be more interest in an iMac or Mini with M1 Pro/Max that minor spec updates to M2 in the entry-level machine without any redesign. That would would be a bit underwhelming apart from demonstrating that Apple can produce a new M-series chip within 18 months....good to know, but not very exciting as a product release.
The original question wasn't about ports being good/bad/handy for most etc., but "Why would someone buy a MBP without HDMI…" and then the answer is simply OK.
Wonder if they're extended the MBP and dropping the MBA due to throttling without active cooling. Needs updated M1 with 8 performance cores and 2 efficiency cores, 16GB RAM minimum and priced at $1200. Oh, needs bigger gap between the USB-C ports or put one on each side otherwise otherwise can't use both at the same time with dongles.
It was technically impressive and practically useless.
Your suggestion would create more confusion into what an M1 Pro is. They already have one binned version. They don't need another one to muddy the waters further. The M2 and M1 Pro/Max are going to exist in the lineup at the same time anyway (M1 models will be refreshed before M1 Pro models), so the differences will still need to be communicated and understood.
Fact of the matter is that Apple only needs to have one 13" laptop, and following a redesign I expect that's what we'll see. The only surprising thing for me is that the 13" MBP is getting refreshed at all.
This machine sounds so out of place. Keeping touch seems odd but I guess they could have inventory. Debuting m2 on this random in between thing feels weird but I guess.
Or it really is just fake leaks and it will be the new MBA that gets announced with a summer time availability. Just feels off. But modern apple is a bit unpredictable with cadence.
Or it really is just fake leaks and it will be the new MBA that gets announced with a summer time availability. Just feels off. But modern apple is a bit unpredictable with cadence.
I would be surprised if Apple released a new 13" MacBook Pro with M2 chip. But it would be a pleasant surprise and an instant purchase for me if they kept the touchbar.
I got the M1 13 inch about 2 months before the 14/16 ones came out because I didn't want to loose the touchbar, it has become too much of a part of my daily workflows and interaction with my laptopl
I get that this is marmite for many, lots seem to positively hate the touchbar, but the few that don't, like me, really love it. It is a shame Apple kept the touchbar exclusively for the MacBook Pro and never realised an external keyboard with touchbar. The lack of full touchbar support across the entire product range did make it difficult to justify to developers the extra effort, time and money required to think of great ways to use this feature and implement it. Apple actually did a great job with touchbar support in Xcode, one of my main usages. The debugger controls are excellent on the touchbar.
I don't think that just because an Apple product has the word 'Pro' in it, its use has to be solely for the purpose of people in a professional capacity, and this aspect tends to confuse a lot of people. It would be catastrophic to Apple's sales figures, but quite interesting if they only allowed 'Pro' machines to be purchased through a legitimate registered business. I reckon if they did, there wouldn't be so many people complaining about USB-A, HDMI, etc. My computer is used for work, and purchased by my company. They couldn't give a flying monkeys about if its got HDMI or all USB-C, and the cost of purchasing dongles, USB-C devices, etc, is peanuts to them. Equally I don't think they are that bothered about the fact that Apple have put them back in for exactly the same reason!
I do think it would make more sense to finish the conversion of all Apple products to AS though. Maybe its possible the M1 lineup is now finished and the M2 will be released in the 13" MacBook Pro along with an M2 Max/Pro in an iMac Pro released at the same time! That would be interesting.
I got the M1 13 inch about 2 months before the 14/16 ones came out because I didn't want to loose the touchbar, it has become too much of a part of my daily workflows and interaction with my laptopl
I get that this is marmite for many, lots seem to positively hate the touchbar, but the few that don't, like me, really love it. It is a shame Apple kept the touchbar exclusively for the MacBook Pro and never realised an external keyboard with touchbar. The lack of full touchbar support across the entire product range did make it difficult to justify to developers the extra effort, time and money required to think of great ways to use this feature and implement it. Apple actually did a great job with touchbar support in Xcode, one of my main usages. The debugger controls are excellent on the touchbar.
I don't think that just because an Apple product has the word 'Pro' in it, its use has to be solely for the purpose of people in a professional capacity, and this aspect tends to confuse a lot of people. It would be catastrophic to Apple's sales figures, but quite interesting if they only allowed 'Pro' machines to be purchased through a legitimate registered business. I reckon if they did, there wouldn't be so many people complaining about USB-A, HDMI, etc. My computer is used for work, and purchased by my company. They couldn't give a flying monkeys about if its got HDMI or all USB-C, and the cost of purchasing dongles, USB-C devices, etc, is peanuts to them. Equally I don't think they are that bothered about the fact that Apple have put them back in for exactly the same reason!
I do think it would make more sense to finish the conversion of all Apple products to AS though. Maybe its possible the M1 lineup is now finished and the M2 will be released in the 13" MacBook Pro along with an M2 Max/Pro in an iMac Pro released at the same time! That would be interesting.
Keeping Pro level separated from low end/regular solves the confusion, not create it - the M1 non-Pro chip in MBP is the main problem that actually "muddies the waters".
Also there's a gaping hole between $1300 and $2000, having lower tier but still a Pro model around $1500 is an elegant way how to split the difference between MBA and MBP - you wan't more power with better accelerators but not at premium and in smaller body everyone like? Here you go.
Yes!!!!! The Touch Bar stays in production. I love the Touch Bar.
Apple refreshes the MacBook Pro models on a regular basis, and in 2022, we could potentially see new versions of the 13-inch MacBook Pro and the higher-end 14-inch and 16-inch versions. Rumors suggest a new 13-inch model could come as soon as spring, while we haven't heard much at all about a refresh of the larger models given that they just launched in October 2021.
For now, this guide focuses on the 13-inch MacBook Pro that we're expecting to see refreshed first, but it will be updated as we hear more about all of the MacBook Pro models.
13-Inch MacBook Pro
Apple last refreshed the entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro in November 2020 when it debuted the first M1 Macs. It came out alongside the MacBook Air and the M1 Mac mini, and all three product lines are due for an update.
Design
Rumors suggest the 13-inch MacBook Pro will see no design updates, continuing to feature the same chassis with a Touch Bar, a feature that has been eliminated from the higher-end 14-inch and 16-inch machines. Not all rumors have agreed on the Touch Bar, however, as Bloomberg's Mark Gurman has suggested that Apple will remove it.
Given the lower cost, the updated 13-inch MacBook Pro will not include a mini-LED display, nor is it expected to support 120Hz ProMotion refresh rates.
With no design changes, the biggest change coming to the 13-inch MacBook Pro will be the updated M2 chip.
M2 Chip
Since the launch of the M1, Apple has been working on a followup, which will presumably be called the "M2." The M2 is expected to have the same 8-core CPU as the M1, but there will be speed and efficiency improvements as it could be built on a smaller node.
As for GPU improvements, it will have additional GPU cores. 9 and 10-core GPU options are expected to be available, up from the 7 and 8-core GPU options available in the original M1. The M2 will not be as powerful as the M1 Pro and the M1 Max, which will be succeeded by the M2 Pro and M2 Max.
Apple is expected to use the M2 chip in the updated 13-inch MacBook Pro and the 2022 MacBook Air.
14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pro
The 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models came out in November 2021, and we haven't heard much about new models at this point in time. Apple presumably won't go for a design refresh because the 2021 models had a new look with mini-LED display, but we can count on new chips.
We don't know what to expect just yet, but forthcoming 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models will likely use the future M2 Pro and M2 Max chips.
Release Timelines
Rumors out of the Apple supply chain from both DigiTimes and a Chinese source that previously provided accurate information on Apple's MacBook Pro models have suggested that Apple could introduce the 13-inch MacBook Pro at its spring event, which is expected to take place on Tuesday, March 8.
If accurate, we'll be seeing the M2 chip as soon as March, which is earlier than previously suggested. Bloomberg's Mark Gurman has said that Apple has a new 13-inch MacBook Pro in the works, but he has not provided specific information on a release date.
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What can you do on Marvericks that you cannot do on Monterey. Apart from running 32 bits apps, everything is available.
Also Mx chips dropped support for 32 bit apps.
On the contrary, I might wonder why anyone would even care if a laptop has HDMI or not.
Genuinely curious what the purpose of this machine would be?
We already have the 14” pro with all the features someone needing power would need and the air for portability at lower performance.
Why would anyone pay for a 13” when an air will either meet your needs or you spring for the pro?
Other than 3 option selling or unless this is going to be like the SE version of the MacBook I really don’t see the point of this machine.
We already have the 14” pro with all the features someone needing power would need and the air for portability at lower performance.
Why would anyone pay for a 13” when an air will either meet your needs or you spring for the pro?
Other than 3 option selling or unless this is going to be like the SE version of the MacBook I really don’t see the point of this machine.
The TouchBar may have been great for some workflows. It made my workflows significantly worse. My 13 inch MacBook Pro 2019 with TouchBar was my least favourite Mac ever. I didn’t expect it’s usability to be so bad. I’ve recently moved over to a M1 MacBook Air and haven’t looked back or missed that MacBook Pro at all.
There's a space between $1K Air 13" and $2K 14"+, that would offer fine in-between more Pro machine - Pro power and accelerator options from above, form/size from bellow. The current MBP 13" doesn't do that, so it couldn't sit in the middle with M1 from bellow and most people don't know why bother with such unfortunate placement.
im going to be mad if this is true i miss my TB and just wanted a 14" with TB but i gave up my 13 mbp tb for the new 2021 14" m1 and now they want to do this !! why.... haha definitely first world problems .. ?
A week ago a bought an M1 for personal use since my old Mac died. Mind you, I had an M1, buts it's the office's Mac. That said, I feel like a gut punch by purchasing it right now; however, I didn't have a choice as waiting was out of the questions due to logistics.
Yes, you either love it or hate it! I had the 2019 MacBook Pro before I got my M1. I really can't rate the M1 MBP high enough. It has the same keyboard as the latest 14/16 inch MBP (but without the black background). Its exactly what I want from a laptop, in that its the perfect size and shape, easy to carry around and very comfortable to use on the go. When docked I get a very good desktop experience, compile times on the M1 are incredible in comparison to the Intel processor I had in the 2019 (I'm sure they are even better with M1 Pro/Max, but M1 is definitely fast enough for me. Actually its possible to be too fast because I quite enjoy nipping to the kitchen for a quick coffee whilst a build progresses!).
I've used a friends M1 MBA as well, and there is a clear difference between the two from a performance perspective. Compiling a large project in Xcode is noticeably faster on the MBP and you can hear the fan kicking in about halfway through.
The other area of the M1 MBP that I really love is the battery life. I've managed 2 days without a charge before when I've been travelling.
My current plan is to keep my M1 MBP as long as possible as my mobile device. If performance becomes an issue then I will probably buy a Mac Pro or iMac Pro to use in the office and just use my laptop for travelling/working from home. Of course, an M2 13" MBP could change that plan, especially if it has touchbar I'll probably trade up. Long live the touchbar!
Exactly this. People keep saying M1 Pro or Max is better than M2 but for most tasks M2 will be faster in single core and closer to the M1 Pro since there is a 2 core jump for GPU as well. Its taking 2 months for apple to deliver their BTO MacBook Pro. It is difficult to imagine that they are distributing resources like that between M1 and M2 rather than getting their entire Mac lineup out quicker.