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Here is what Microsoft Excel for the Apple Vision Pro looks like from Twitter....


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I’m hoping to have my fully immersive experience app ready for launch as well. Developing for the Vision Pro has been a blast so far. Definitely some limitations but overall seems like a good first gen product. It definitely opens up some unique creative possibilities.
 
Can we trust these apps? Is there a "walled garden" on the iVision Pro like there is on iPadOS and iPhoneOS?
 
It's so funny to see productivity apps being designed for a device, which is by definition anti-productivity (worse input, worse display of data).
 
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I think landscape architects will be all over this. To go over designs with clients, allowing changes to be quickly made.
I would hope you are right, but to be honest, most of the apps available through normal apps are really clunky and not very good. And I have tried a few. Or I am just dumb and can't use tech... 50/50 probably.
 
I think landscape architects will be all over this. To go over designs with clients, allowing changes to be quickly made.


This is a "personal" device. It has to fitted, head size, strap lenght. On top of that you need to compensate for non-perfect vision with optical inserts.

1. Client looks at a computer screen with their own prescription spectacles.
2. Client puts on a VR headset and doesn't see much, because of light leakage, non-ideal alignment, blurry image.
 
No VR, hardly any AR, just 2D iOS apps only with less resolution, where you have to wear hot and heavy goggles on your face to use them and where you won’t be immersed enough that you forget that you’re wearing them. Good luck with that
 
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Perhaps because all of these (jump to) conclusions about no Pages & Numbers revolve around seeing that Keynote is apparently a stock app (installed for all) in Vpro (so where's Pages & Numbers?).

However, if any of us go buy a new iPad tonight, it won't come with Pages & Numbers (or Keynote) pre-installed. Yes, you can get it for free but you OPT to download it from the > "million apps" available for iPad.

I agree with OPs speculation: Pages & Numbers will be available... and I'm guessing new Vpro owners can download them for free if they want them. Why is Keynote pre-installed and the others may not be? Only Apple knows that one.

Of course, if we watched the demonstration video to a first time user, late in the session when the Apple representative wants the user to try the Dinosaur app, she directs him to scroll the apps to the SECOND page of apps. That segment is zoomed, so we only see 3 apps NOT on the first pages of apps (where Keynote shows). See for yourself in that spot of the video...



Perhaps Pages & Numbers is preinstalled on page 2 of Vpro apps? Or Page 3? Etc. I bet a lot of people have some of these apps on page 2 or 3+ of their iPad or iPhone too.

Or- again- just like for ALL iPads, if you want Pages & Numbers on your new device, you download it. Maybe some doesn't want them on their new toys. Perhaps Apple DID learn something from the infamous U2 "free" album: let users decide if they want certain things on their iDevices... and now Vpro.
Apple.com seems to indicate that those apps are, in fact, pre-installed on iPad.
 

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This is actually a great use case. Passthru is lifelike, and it's easier to refer to a recipe right next to you all the time than having to go to your iPad or laptop. It's also easier to scroll a recipe page, if you have messy hands, with the Apple Vision Pro gestures than it is to scroll on a laptop or iPad
It absolutely is, but would I want to expose my $3.5k headset to the moisture, steam, grease etc that inevitably come with cooking? Probably not.

But in a few years with much more inexpensive AR glasses that look and feel like my regular glasses, yes I can see that.
 
it's not doomed. It's just not a hit. Think of it like the airpods max.
Pretty sure that was a hit too. Just not as mainstream as the AirPods or AirPods Pro. That's what happens when something is expensive, it becomes less attainable. It doesn't mean it isn't a hit. I have the Sony XM4's and would much rather have the AirPod Max (and will upgrade when V2 come out later this year).
 
Pretty sure that was a hit too. Just not as mainstream as the AirPods or AirPods Pro. That's what happens when something is expensive, it becomes less attainable. It doesn't mean it isn't a hit. I have the Sony XM4's and would much rather have the AirPod Max (and will upgrade when V2 come out later this year).

AirPods Max suck compared to countless sets of wired headphones. Sure, the noise cancellation features are first class, but the audio quality is no great shakes. Furthermore, AirPods Max aren’t expensive in the world of headphones. They’re expensive in terms of the trade offs you have to live with in audio, ergonomics, compatibility and so forth but you can spend many thousands on high end headphones. Characterizing AirPods Max as a “hit” is a reach at best.
 
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