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Things 10.5.1 still hasn't fixed
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LOL, you should have seen it before release ... every 30 seconds it would pop up. I had to create a space to keep it in so it would stop driving me nuts.
Mail.app keeps taking random accounts offlline. Doesn't seem to matter if I configure for POP or IMAP.
Progress bar gets stuck when attempting to select a desktop background from my Pictures folder - and it never finishes loading. I admit it's minor.
Way too many pinwheels when attempting to use Spotlight, and less often in Mail but still just as frustrating.
Tried to log out earlier today and Finder/Dock/Menu Bar all disappeard, but nothing else happened. For about the 20th time since Leopard I had to do a hard shutdown. I swear I haven't had to do that many since I bought my Power Mac back in 2003.
Although I love Time Machine (when it doesn't crash) and I dig Spaces, Leopard was not ready for prime time, IMHO. Not even with 10.5.1. This isn't the same Apple I used to admire. Panther was excellent, and Tiger was rock solid. So far, Leopard blows. Too many irons in the fire for Apple I guess. Too bad.
Progress bar gets stuck when attempting to select a desktop background from my Pictures folder - and it never finishes loading. I admit it's minor.
Way too many pinwheels when attempting to use Spotlight, and less often in Mail but still just as frustrating.
Tried to log out earlier today and Finder/Dock/Menu Bar all disappeard, but nothing else happened. For about the 20th time since Leopard I had to do a hard shutdown. I swear I haven't had to do that many since I bought my Power Mac back in 2003.
Although I love Time Machine (when it doesn't crash) and I dig Spaces, Leopard was not ready for prime time, IMHO. Not even with 10.5.1. This isn't the same Apple I used to admire. Panther was excellent, and Tiger was rock solid. So far, Leopard blows. Too many irons in the fire for Apple I guess. Too bad.
Whenever disk images mount and I try to eject them even if I haven't opened anythin gin it, it still says that's its in use, then it ejects it, wtf.
PowerMac G5's still are unable to sleep, with a few exceptions.
Mail won't pay attention to my "Put junk mail directly in junk mail folder" command.
eh... this kind of stuff makes me feel like the PPC users are already getting the short end of the stick.
Mail won't pay attention to my "Put junk mail directly in junk mail folder" command.
eh... this kind of stuff makes me feel like the PPC users are already getting the short end of the stick.
For me, this is one of the things Leopard fixed. My Power Mac G5 has never slept on the first try - every time. Until now. I guess that's another thing that keeps me with Leopard, even though there are some frustrations.
All is good for me on a G4 1.5Ghz PB. Stacks is a horrible idea that must have struck SJ when he was on some sort of special crack, because this sounds like his own personal "invention".
Transparent menu bar is not as obnoxiously bad as the stacks, but does indicate that some recreational substances were still used to come up with it. IGranted, some people prefer that, but there should be an OPTION to easily toggle the setting in GUI.
The rest of Leopard appears very good.
Transparent menu bar is not as obnoxiously bad as the stacks, but does indicate that some recreational substances were still used to come up with it. IGranted, some people prefer that, but there should be an OPTION to easily toggle the setting in GUI.
The rest of Leopard appears very good.
Still takes WAAAAAAY to long to shut down and startup on my MBP. When it shuts down, it sort of hangs on a black screen before powering off or restarting. Then it sits forever on the grey apple screen on startup. I was hoping that would be fixed. But I rarely have to restart it anyway, just when I want to play TF2, which I hardly have time to do these days anyway.
I applied the full installer and they are there.
10.5.1 installer system totally messed up all my permissions all over the place to the point where it wouldn't boot. After getting it to boot every thing was totally screwed and repair permissions didn't fix anything. Good job i had the foresight to do a time machine backup before installing the update. (Something the installer should prompt the user to do if there is Time Machine configured)
add password to keychain in system preferences network adds "0x" before the wep password, which means it will fail to connect. Or it saves the password as ******* rather than the characters which also means it can't connect.
Airport randomly disconnects and will do the dreaded "connection timeout" and will only work about 1 in 100 times.
That is a problem that is solved very easily. Don't run "Repair Disk Permission". Since Jaguar, it is very unlikely that you get any problems that "Repair Disk Permissions" would fix.
May I suggest that whatever the installer messed up had nothing to do with "your permissions" and therefore "repair permissions" couldn't fix anything?
Every password cracker reading your post will now try "eating slowly, he swims across the cyan ravine!" first
Well maybe but it definitely borked my entire system, no matter how much you don't want it to repair disk permissions actually helped and made my computer bootable, so it isn't as useless as you suggest.
1.) It wouldn't boot then i ran the repair permissions from the installer dvd it fixed a whole heap of stuff then the computer was able to boot. So it did screw some permissions so heavily that it stopped it booting.
2.) After booting there was nothing on the desktop and whenever i clicked on it it said that you do not have permission to access this, couldn't authenticate. This happened on pretty much every single folder i tried to access. I checked the sharing and permissions via cmd+i on several folders and I had "No Access" and there was a new user called "_unknown" who had read and write access where my user account usually resided. I changed that and rebooted and still the problem persisted. So there was definitely something funky regarding my permissions.
This sounds like a network issue, not a Leopard issue.
This exact thing happens when using Second Life (a similar game), if somewhere along your network path there is a negotiation failure going on.
Typically, a lot of older routers through bad firmware and/or bad software interfaces, fail to automatically negotiate the speed or even know what auto-negotiation is. The pause is where the request to auto-negotiate is sent to the router or switch that doesn't know how to respond (it's either "dumb" or waiting for you to specifically tell it what speed to use). So there is a huge and regular pause where the router/switch is essentially saying "WTF?" to the auto-negotiate request.
I could be totally wrong of course, but it sounds similar to what I experienced. The solution was updating the switch under my desk, but unfortunately almost any kind of network negotiation problem between you and the WOW server in California can manifest like this.
Simple logic says this is an issue with your mouse or mouse driver because it happens system wide (across programs) and in the Finder. If this happened even for one out of a thousand people, Finder would be considered severely broken (and thus never would have shipped), so it's clearly not happening to anyone else much.
So I am generalising, but if it only happens to you, and it's a mouse problem that occurs in multiple apps, then it pretty much has to be your mouse that's at fault or the software supporting it, not Leopard at all.
First thing to try is swapping out your mouse with another mouse, and also trying your mouse on another computer. If another mouse has the same problem on your computer, and especially if your mouse *doesn't have a problem on another machine .. then you know it's the mouse software (driver probably) that's at fault.
If it's the reverse (new mouse has no problem, your mouse has problem on other machine) then you know it's the mouse itself.
I work in Mac repairs/service and I would say that you are connecting two things here that are not always connected.
Permissions *do* get screwed up, they can be off on even a brand new machine sometimes. If you run permissions repair on almost any machine it will show an error or two. That being said, it is rarely a problem and rarely the source of the problem when someone comes to me with an un-bootable Mac. They are truly for the most part, meaningless.
However, I have many times over the years got a non-booting computer to run by repairing permissions so it *does* happen and it does happen more often to people who don't know what permissions even are and have never repaired or checked them for the two years they owned the computer.
Bottom line is if you repaired your permissions once or twice a year you are probably overdoing it and wasting your time. You can also just *never* do it and if you are one of those rare unfortunate people that has a problem booting up someday because the permissions are wrong on some minor part of the system, you can boot up off your repair disk and fix the permissions in a very short time and then go on with your life.
If you are really worried about it, write an automator script to run Disk Utility at 3 in the morning every fifth Friday of the month or something.
Transparent Menu Bar Blows
The transparent menu bar is by far the worst. There is no point in making such a setting mandatory. I will not upgrade to 10.5 until this basic usability issue is addressed. Human interface guidelines were developed for a reason. The lack of a setting for the transparency indicates a major failure on the part of the dev team.
The transparent menu bar is by far the worst. There is no point in making such a setting mandatory. I will not upgrade to 10.5 until this basic usability issue is addressed. Human interface guidelines were developed for a reason. The lack of a setting for the transparency indicates a major failure on the part of the dev team.
Mine was doing this also.
I unchecked it, closed prefs, re-opened prefs and re-checked box and now it works.
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Anybody else notice that spotlight STILL doesn't actually work? Try searching for something deep inside the library of your user folder, even if you know it's there, spotlight won't find it. Very frustrating.
Anybody else notice that spotlight STILL doesn't actually work? Try searching for something deep inside the library of your user folder, even if you know it's there, spotlight won't find it. Very frustrating.
I've just tried this and it seems to find things in my Library (or any depth below it) folder without any problem at all - you don't have your library folder excluded or something like that do you?