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So what do you think about Macs/Apple OS?

  • They are superb and could not be better

    Votes: 305 22.9%
  • They're good but have a few niggles

    Votes: 879 65.9%
  • For everything I like there's something I don't like

    Votes: 106 8.0%
  • I prefer Microsoft PCs

    Votes: 43 3.2%

  • Total voters
    1,333
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What irks me most about Apple products is that I have neither the justification nor the funds to have one of each.;)
Alas, all the great Machead men are taken. :p

Hmm... that even when I set out to not like a machine, I quickly grow accustomed to it? Ooh ooh, orrrr... my luck. Yes. I have bad Apple hardware luck. :eek:
 
The thing I hate most is the responses you get from PC users when they find out you use a Mac...

"What's the point? You can't play games."
"Totally overpriced"
"Why would you have a computer that doesn't have Office?"
"Can you use <insert Windows-only software> on it?"

It really drives me up the wall sometimes, although not nearly as much as Windows did when it decided to do something I didn't want it to do :p
 
Excellent one! That's the best so far!

And to make it clear to others - I don't hate Macs nor prefer Windows. I'm just interested to know what other people's niggles are. I can't believe anyone thinks OS 10.5 is perfect and will never again want to upgrade.
 
- When you shut down a notebook, you can't close the lid or it will go to sleep mid shut down.

I agree with that one. I'm slightly jealous of my Windows friends who hit shut down, close the lid, and tuck the notebook in their bag. Of course, it encourages you to make sure the disk stops spinning before picking it up and putting it in the bag, which is good, but I still wish I could close the lid without it sleeping after I initiate the shut down sequence.

- eBay never works properly with Safari!

Never had a single problem with eBay/Safari.

The eject button doesn't eject the disc straight away - but I think it should. Regardless of what it's doing/trying to do.

Why? That would be horribly annoying if you were in the middle of an install, bumped the eject key, and the disk actually spat out. It's best to make sure it can properly dismount the volume first, ensuring you don't lose data or compromise the stability of the system, before the disk is actually ejected. That's one of my biggest pet peeves with Windows, that you can take disks out even if they're in use.

jW
 
The thing I hate most about Macs is pc users keep trying to steal mine from me. They see the design, the ease of use and the clarity and boy I just gotta keep both hands on my MBP.
 
Or you could learn to use keyboard shortcuts...

The impossible to learn and remember keyboard shortcuts and keyboard menu navigation, MS Windows does this better.... I may have mentioned this before.

That Apple choose to limit their OS to their own hardware, and that they limit their software to their hardware.
 
"That Apple choose to limit their OS to their own hardware, and that they limit their software to their hardware."

I'm VERY thankful they were wise enough to do that. Otherwise... they'd be gone. And if they ever make the mistake of opening the OS to other hardware, they'll be gone. But I think there will be a long line of grownups running Apple after Jobs is gone, so no fear.

Dislike most about Apple? Too few Apple stores. That means in some locales you can only get the product on-line or at inconsistent "mom n pop" resellers.
 
Finder's search feature just plain doesn't work right. It can't find files on my externals half the time.
 
The Finder. I love all things OS X. But frankly, Windows Explorer is FAR superior for file management. WHY can't we have an explorer like view.

Oh, and the ability to CUT in the finder as well. REALLY annoying not having that option. I mean jeez, even Linux GUI offers this. (As well as an explorer like interface depending on the window system you are using).

Are you referring to Tiger and below because Leopard's iTunes-like Finder is a much better file manager than Windows Explorer. In fact the Finder was the most complained about feature in OS X before Leopard. Complaints about Leopards finder are so very little now I think it's what people wanted all along.

I agree with that one. I'm slightly jealous of my Windows friends who hit shut down, close the lid, and tuck the notebook in their bag. Of course, it encourages you to make sure the disk stops spinning before picking it up and putting it in the bag, which is good, but I still wish I could close the lid without it sleeping after I initiate the shut down sequence.

Hmm, I'm not catchin' you on this one. Who hardly shuts down their Mac? Now I know Windows is better off being shut down which is probably why you see your Windows friends doing that. Macs sleep at any time without issues as opposed to Windows.
Well I don't know about you but for me since I rarely shut down my Mac the little time it takes to shut down before closing the lid ain't no biggie.

The impossible to learn and remember keyboard shortcuts and keyboard menu navigation, MS Windows does this better.... I may have mentioned this before.

That Apple choose to limit their OS to their own hardware, and that they limit their software to their hardware.

I know you didn't actually say this to start a Mac vs. Windows thread but I always wonder do Windows forums ever state about Mac features they wish Windows would do?
 
The light is not that bright
It's woken me up on occasion and I'm a very deep sleeper (I've slept straight through fire drills in school). I'd like at least the option of dimming the light instead of throwing a sock or shirt over it. Most of the time I just hide it under the bed or bed side table.

- The low battery warning will pop up six or seven times before the battery dies - and needs to be CLICKED to go each time.
Strange, that's never, not once, happened to me on my 12" PB. I get one warning and five minutes later, BAM! it's asleep.

The eject button doesn't eject the disc straight away - but I think it should. Regardless of what it's doing/trying to do.
The delete key doesn't delete anything. Instead one has to either drag it to the trash manually or pick "move to trash" from the contextual menu.
That's done so you don't 1) accidently eject a disk and 2) delete something you didn't mean to delete.

The impossible to learn and remember keyboard shortcuts and keyboard menu navigation, MS Windows does this better.... I may have mentioned this before.

That Apple choose to limit their OS to their own hardware, and that they limit their software to their hardware.
1. You're nuts. Not only are OS X's hotkeys (as they call them) physically easier to use (instead of the dreaded Alt+key combo) they usually work in every app. ⌘+Q quits an app, ⌘+W closes a window, ⌘+, opens an apps preferences. Sooo much easier to remember than a million shortcuts.
2. Because of this you don't have "DLL (driver) Hell" as you do with any iteration of Windows (XP and Vista included). OS X simply works because Apple knows exactly what hardware it's running on.
 
Really, the only bad thig that there is such a limited range of hardware. If I run Windows, Linux or Solaris I can choose hardware to suit my needs. With Apple there is very limited choice. Apple needs to make a full range of systems available.

Morethen a few times I'v had to recommend people not buy Apple computers because there was no suitable hardware.

Amen. The biggest thing I hate about Apple is their desire to limit their hardware and give us a "One model fits all" approach to business.

Their machines aren't tough enough.

MORE BTO OPTION! :mad:

The impossible to learn and remember keyboard shortcuts and keyboard menu navigation, MS Windows does this better.... I may have mentioned this before.

That Apple choose to limit their OS to their own hardware, and that they limit their software to their hardware.

I don't think your inability to remember keyboard shortcuts is a shortcoming of an OS. Just like many users inability to learn their OS isn't. If you think Windows does keyboard navigation better than to each his own, but understand that it's simply and opinion, and should be stated as such.

As for Apple giving their OS to their own hardware, it should remain with the Mac, otherwise Apple would be out of business and we'd be stuck with Windows, but I would like to see a much broader hardware selection with Apple, and maybe some more "We will be doing this in the future" statements from their PR.
 
How about the proprietary accessories? Right now, Apple has two of the worst AC adapters ever matched to portable computers (the MB/P Magsafes). The things are horribly rated and horribly unsafe, yet people have no choice to continue buying them, because Apple won't allow 3rd parties to manufacture equivalents. So you're stuck with an $80 adapter that almost always fails within the year by short circuiting and overheating enough to start a fire if unattended. Apple still hasn't redesigned them, so they're the only options out there if you want to run a Macbook/Pro.
 
The green zoom button. AGGHHH! Plus signs when it makes a window smaller, the utter lack of a maximize button killlls me sometimes. Before anyone flames, I do understand the concept of the zoom button, I just think that it's poorly implimented and if one could improve upon virtual perfection, it would be to add a 4th friggin' maximize button.
 
the thing that bugs me most about mac's are the people who buy mac's.


- The low battery warning will pop up six or seven times before the battery dies - and needs to be CLICKED to go each time.


I quite like the way the plus button behaves, a I really hate the way windows does it. This is mostly all personal preference and the way Apple does it, and it will probably never change.


You really can't wait 30 seconds to let the computer shutdown all the way??


have not used leopard all that much but resizing a window it just that. You are resizing the whole thing. It would not be consistent to just make some of the window bigger.


This is an ebay problem and not safari!


The light is not that bright
 
The green zoom button. AGGHHH! Plus signs when it makes a window smaller, the utter lack of a maximize button killlls me sometimes. Before anyone flames, I do understand the concept of the zoom button, I just think that it's poorly implimented and if one could improve upon virtual perfection, it would be to add a 4th friggin' maximize button.

You know what, I won't flame you but I am a getting irritated because of the LACK of what you are saying.
Stop complaining about the maximize button without pinpointing which app you are referring to. You know as well as everyone else that runs a Mac that iCal, iPhoto, Mail, iMovie, TextEdit, Automator, Font Book, Garageband and Dictionary ALL MAXIMIZE TO FULL SCREEN using the zoom in/zoom out button. I do understand that it's weird that it's a plus sign regardless what it does.

So it's obvious you are only referring to Safari or iTunes. 2 apps on the whole system don't maximize the way you want them. Again, I have no problem about how you feel but you as well as the rest need to pinpoint what you are talking about.
How would you feel if you were a potential switcher and read this forum and saw YOUR post and thought, "Well that sucks the Mac OS doesn't maximize anything because this guy Dustman said so". See that's the perception because you are not telling the whole story.
 
Why do new Mac users feel the need to post this type of thing- and do it without fully understanding the way the Mac works? For instance, the green button is inconsistent, but it shouldn't just act like Windows and fill the screen, it should show as much content in the window as can fit the screen. If I have 4 icons in a folder, I don't want my whole screen taken up by the window. And we hear this stuff all the time and we know about it. Why do we have to hear it again and again...?
 
Hmm, I'm not catchin' you on this one. Who hardly shuts down their Mac? Now I know Windows is better off being shut down which is probably why you see your Windows friends doing that. Macs sleep at any time without issues as opposed to Windows.
Well I don't know about you but for me since I rarely shut down my Mac the little time it takes to shut down before closing the lid ain't no biggie.

Sleep mode is a bit buggy, and can cause problems if you're carrying around a laptop in a bag while it's sleeping (I do, but that's because I'm lazy). Thus, it's best to shut down the laptop instead of sleeping it. Obviously not an issue for desktops, but then they don't have lids to close anyways so it doesn't apply.

jW
 
Sleep mode is a bit buggy, and can cause problems if you're carrying around a laptop in a bag while it's sleeping (I do, but that's because I'm lazy). Thus, it's best to shut down the laptop instead of sleeping it. Obviously not an issue for desktops, but then they don't have lids to close anyways so it doesn't apply.

jW

What are you talking about???? I have a Powerbook and a MBP and an iBook which I carry around for work everyday. Sleep is one of the most stable features on the Mac OS that Windows has never gotten to work well. I never have issues closing my notebooks and carrying them in my bags for transport. It actually hurts your computer shutting it down all the time and starting it back up but unfortunately shutting down a Windows PC is necessary but not a Mac computer.
 
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