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Things you HATE about Macs...

So what do you think about Macs/Apple OS?

  • They are superb and could not be better

    Votes: 305 22.9%

  • They're good but have a few niggles

    Votes: 879 65.9%

  • For everything I like there's something I don't like

    Votes: 106 8.0%

  • I prefer Microsoft PCs

    Votes: 43 3.2%
  • Total voters
    1,333
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^ I'd say that's generic, i.e. they're not being "Windows fanboys" (there are plenty of Linux users who do that too) they're just ignorant to the facts and only know stereotypes. Probably the same kind of person who says all Muslims are suicide bombers, all gay people are camp and all gay Muslims will shove a bomb up your bottom :D

I think what this has proven is there's no universally agreed definition of the word "fanboy" (or if there is, it's not very well known).
 
theman said:
I get 5.5 hours...
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Don't even try...

Over on the News and Discussion forum, when I posted I got 5+ battery hours out of my MacBook, people told me I was lying and that's impossible. Because apparently, no one in the "real world" can get by on low brightness and without a lot of media playing at the same time....
 
TBi said:
That's not really what he said.

For what you said to make sense in his argument it would be a mac user saying

"PC only has DOS and no GUI"

and then the PC user responding

"oh god some retard coming from OSX, DOS is THE best way so **** and go back to OSX I'm sick of hearing it"
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You missed the point. The "PC only has DOS and no GUI" is an example of something so out of date and irrelevant to any discussion about the merits of the 2 systems that nobody would even bother trying to explain any benefits. The "Mac mouse has one button" is the equivalent yet you see this kind of comment all the time.

kuwisdelu said:
He's a very good programmer and good with computers, but whenever anyone asked him for help with the school's computers, he'd reply "it won't work, because they're Macs, so they're retarded," or something like that. A lot of the Windows users I run into have this attitude that Macs are only for pretentious artists who want to show off a pretty machine that can't actually do anything.
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Ask him which he thinks is better, Unix or Windows, and why. Few who are 'very good programmers' would be unaware of OS X's Unix base.

The key issue about the Mac is that it is scalable. i.e. beginners can use it, and so can programmers, and Unix users. I run a Linux server yet do all my development on OS X which mirrors the functionality only with better tools for development.
 
macgruder said:
You missed the point. The "PC only has DOS and no GUI" is an example of something so out of date and irrelevant to any discussion about the merits of the 2 systems that nobody would even bother trying to explain any benefits. The "Mac mouse has one button" is the equivalent yet you see this kind of comment all the time.
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Well the macbook does have only one mouse button. So they wouldn't be wrong. Unlike someone saying pc's are still DOS. They are ignoring Windows, Linux BeOS, Unix, etc...

It's a totally different argument :)
 
TBi said:
Well the macbook does have only one mouse button. So they wouldn't be wrong. Unlike someone saying pc's are still DOS. They are ignoring Windows, Linux BeOS, Unix, etc...

It's a totally different argument :)
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I guess the main thing i hear is not the one button argument, which is still true on the portables, there is only one button, but that is a pretty multi-functional button! But rather the argument that macs can't right click, which is just a down right fallacy.
 
kuwisdelu said:
Don't even try...

Over on the News and Discussion forum, when I posted I got 5+ battery hours out of my MacBook, people told me I was lying and that's impossible. Because apparently, no one in the "real world" can get by on low brightness and without a lot of media playing at the same time....
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That's still impressive. I use lowest brightness and don't have music or movies playing, and see about 4.5 hours in such cases. I could imagine getting 5 hours with Dashboard turned off, and all the little utilities that sit in the menu bar off, and only using TextEdit. But for most practical purposes, I get 3.5 hours, even at lowest brightness.

But that's not a complaint. By all indications, that's really good for a high-end laptop.
 
TBi said:
Well the macbook does have only one mouse button. So they wouldn't be wrong. Unlike someone saying pc's are still DOS. They are ignoring Windows, Linux BeOS, Unix, etc...

It's a totally different argument :)
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Well, the statement "Macs have one button" is still wrong even if it is true of certain Macs.

Actually, I had intended to write 'Windows' rather than 'PCs' but it seemed a little silly as a 'window' is a 'gui' object and so I changed it to PC. :)

But the point is here that many arguments about Macs on such threads are totally misinformed.
 
Most of the time the only thing Windows users have ever commented to me is that they don't like the big chime sound when you turn a Mac on.

Back to what I'd like to see on Macs, or rather Leopard. I'd like to be able to adjust the text size in the side bar of the Finder, as well as specify an icon only view for the sidebar as well should I so choose. I really liked the Tiger Finder for this reason. For power users it isn't so much of an issue. But for people who don't know much about computers it is nice to have things a bit clearer.

Another thing I'd like to see is an 'anti-newbie to Mac running programs from within DMG files' function. That and a thing that makes them put the applications in the applications folder and not the documents or the root of the hard drive etc!

I set my parents up with a Macbook, and it is great. Now I don't get called up all the time for tech support. But although I have set my mums account to use the simple option in Leopard, I wish I could adjust the degree of simpleness. Having a totally basic interface for her is great. But for my dad who is more advanced, yet still manages to cock things up occasionally, I'd like to make it in between the simple option and advanced.
 
SimonMW said:
Most of the time the only thing Windows users have ever commented to me is that they don't like the big chime sound when you turn a Mac on.
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Just turn the volume off before you shut down next time: no chime! :)

Besides, doesn't Windows have its own chime?
 
This does truly annoy me (and I'd love to hear a solution)

In iTunes, I'm listening to a playlist and want to search for a song - I type my search not noticing I'm in the playlist. I can't seem to find any way to then re-search the whole library without retyping the same search. Same problem with Yojimbo. A search history would be helpful.
 
But it also opens text and PDF's, so it has to be able to grab the text from somewhere in order to display it.
 
SimonMW said:
But it also opens text and PDF's, so it has to be able to grab the text from somewhere in order to display it.
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No, you misunderstand how it works. Quicklook displays an image. This image is provided by a plugin that renders whatever the content of the file it to an image which is all Quicklook has to work with. There is no text to select.
 
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