Things you HATE about Macs...

[eXan]

Ok that's why we're missing each other. I'm talking about desktops like the mac pro or mini. They bong from an internal speaker at 100% volume.

Can't speak for MP or MM, but my iMac adjusts it's startup sound volume to the regular system volume. So does my MacBook

 

[Rodimus Prime]

For me what I hate most about Macs is the apple fan boys. The people who jump one any one who complain about one little part about OSX saying they wish this would change. They defend everything apple does like it is the best thing ever. This thread it does not take long to find a lot of them.

They can not accepted the fact that apple could do a lot of things in OSX a hell of a lot better. They can not accept that there are some things that Windows does a heck of a lot better than macs in use ability.

 

[Zeiss]

OSX sucks on the little things

OSX does some good stuff, a lot of bells and whistles, a lot of nice consumer level stuff blah blah, but as far as the finder being a file management tools it kinda sucks - 1 thing that really bugs me is when in column view if you activate a folder, then press a key to navigate to a specific letter, it does it in the column the active folder is in, not in the column that you navigate to.....

Also [and an even bigger issue] is when you resize a column so you can actually read the titles of folders and files, the settings are not remembered the next time you open that column.

There are more, but these are just little things that OSX sucks at.

 

[Live Steam]

OSX does some good stuff, a lot of bells and whistles, a lot of nice consumer level stuff blah blah, but as far as the finder being a file management tools it kinda sucks - 1 thing that really bugs me is when in column view if you activate a folder, then press a key to navigate to a specific letter, it does it in the column the active folder is in, not in the column that you navigate to.....

Also [and an even bigger issue] is when you resize a column so you can actually read the titles of folders and files, the settings are not remembered the next time you open that column.

There are more, but these are just little things that OSX sucks at.

Finder and managing folders in general, is not what I thought it would be using a Mac. Unless it will just take getting more familiar with OS X, I don't feel that folder/file management is as intuitive as it is in Windows. What's with allowing duplicate files to automatically be created in the same folder? That is a real problem as far as I am concerned. It almost seems like someone could easily exploit that in a virus or malware to consume a drive. Am I missing something here?

 

[DaveF]

Finder and managing folders in general, is not what I thought it would be using a Mac. Unless it will just take getting more familiar with OS X, I don't feel that folder/file management is as intuitive as it is in Windows. What's with allowing duplicate files to automatically be created in the same folder? That is a real problem as far as I am concerned. It almost seems like someone could easily exploit that in a virus or malware to consume a drive. Am I missing something here?

I don't know what the duplicate file issue is, you're describing. What automatically creates duplicates in a folder?

But I do, to my surprise, miss one aspect of Windows file system: individual view settings for folders. On Windows, I Arrange By Type, which sorts files by file type (Word, Powerpoint, Matlab, JPG, etc.) and then alphabetically within the type. Except for, say, folders of images, which I view as Thumbnails. And no matter how I get to a folder, it takes on that folder's organizational settings.

But in Mac Finder, it uses whatever is in use. So, I now use Columns and Arrange By Kind (Hooray Leopard! Sort by file type in Columns!), which is mostly just what I want. Except, I'd rather use icon view sorted by name for folders of images; I have to manually change back and forth every time. It doesn't remember that one folder should be icons, while all others are Column, by Type. And my Applications folder should be Column, by Name (arrange by Type gives a seemingly random arrangement of applications. I can't figure it out.) But to change that special case means that I have to change back when I open up a new folder the next time.

The Finder has a good qualities; but it's lacking in important ways as well. It's a strange system.

 

[Live Steam]

I don't know what the duplicate file issue is, you're describing. What automatically creates duplicates in a folder?

I wanted to eliminate duplicates that were created in iTunes. The iTunes song list is just images of actual files stored somewhere else on the disk. (Not sure why they chose to do this, but that's a different issue.) I have a few different music folders on the HD due to recently transferring everything over from multiple drives utilizing Windows. So with thousands of songs listed, I figured it would be easiest to combine the folders in order to eliminate duplicates that may exist in the different folders rather than clicking on each title in iTunes and deleting the dupe manually.

Windows would not allow duplicates of a single file with the same name to exist in the same folder, so this would then then eliminate dupes. However I failed to realize that OS X adds a number to the end of a duplicate file that is going to be created as a result of combining the folders. Windows would give notification that the file already exists and do you want to overwrite it. OS X just assumes you want two copies of the same file. This seems kind of silly and I don't see a use for it. I also see it as a way the OS could be exploited.

 

[funkychunkz]

Some things that are just logical are simply absent, presumably because they would make thinks look too complicated. Some features you need to find in freeware, which is fine, except in the case of the finder.

The finder should be a stronger base for all other uses of the computer. Like how many times have you wanted to merge a folder? It's not like I'm going to fire up a backup utility to sync ONE FOLDER. (I fire up rsync, but most mac users probably wouldn't think to to that).

Sometimes I hate the rigidity like not having theme support, and not having a good filetype manager builtin.

 

[lasuther]

High end BTO graphics cards. I'd like the option to get a 512VRAM graphics card in a iMac or MacBook. And have the price be reasonable and comparable to PCs.

 

[Paix247]

the wait for upgrades & lack of sales on the ones that are nearly a year old

 

[decksnap]

I wanted to eliminate duplicates that were created in iTunes. The iTunes song list is just images of actual files stored somewhere else on the disk. (Not sure why they chose to do this, but that's a different issue.) I have a few different music folders on the HD due to recently transferring everything over from multiple drives utilizing Windows. So with thousands of songs listed, I figured it would be easiest to combine the folders in order to eliminate duplicates that may exist in the different folders rather than clicking on each title in iTunes and deleting the dupe manually.

Windows would not allow duplicates of a single file with the same name to exist in the same folder, so this would then then eliminate dupes. However I failed to realize that OS X adds a number to the end of a duplicate file that is going to be created as a result of combining the folders. Windows would give notification that the file already exists and do you want to overwrite it. OS X just assumes you want two copies of the same file. This seems kind of silly and I don't see a use for it. I also see it as a way the OS could be exploited.

I don't know how or what you were doing, (or how you've made duplicates in iTunes in the first place, but that's another matter) but Finder behaves the same way as windows. 'A file with the same name exists in this location. Would you like to replace it?'

 

[kuwisdelu]

I don't know how or what you were doing, (or how you've made duplicates in iTunes in the first place, but that's another matter) but Finder behaves the same way as windows. 'A file with the same name exists in this location. Would you like to replace it?'

I just tried making a duplicate file in the same folder, and it asked my if I wanted to replace it or not, too. I'm not sure what the problem is, unless they actually have just similar names instead of the exact same filename, and therefore not duplicates?

I have experienced the duplicates in iTunes problem, though, from already having one song from an album, and later importing the whole album, or importing a playlist, and therefore getting duplicate songs of those ones you already have. It's not that big a deal for me, since it doesn't happen too often, but it'd be nice to have an easy way to purge duplicate songs you've accidentally imported twice, if they're ones scattered around from importing a playlist with dupe songs.

I have no problem with Finder. I think it's less personable than Window's file system, but less buggy. My folders froze up all the time in Windows. One thing I think OS X definitely got right with its file system, whatever Finder's other pros or cons, is its handling of Application files. Windows applications have everything scattered across my computer, but OS X applications are all in one spot. It pisses me off when I get those non-compliant applications (usually games) that decide to save their settings in my Documents folder.... Hey that's something OS X can fix! Make applications not be able to create new folders in my Documents folder without my permission!

 

[cloudnine]

For me what I hate most about Macs is the apple fan boys. The people who jump one any one who complain about one little part about OSX saying they wish this would change. They defend everything apple does like it is the best thing ever. This thread it does not take long to find a lot of them.

They can not accepted the fact that apple could do a lot of things in OSX a hell of a lot better. They can not accept that there are some things that Windows does a heck of a lot better than macs in use ability.

I think this just goes along with the frustration we felt using windows machines... and the lack of frustration we feel using apple... because even when apple is at their very worst, they're still better than windows at their very best

and yes, i will take the label of apple fanboy willingly

 

[Rodimus Prime]

I think this just goes along with the frustration we felt using windows machines... and the lack of frustration we feel using apple... because even when apple is at their very worst, they're still better than windows at their very best

and yes, i will take the label of apple fanboy willingly

I should of added a long with that your apple fan boy does more harm than good for the cause. They make a lot of people not to want to use apple products because of the cult actions of a lot of people.

 

[Quillz]

I think this just goes along with the frustration we felt using windows machines... and the lack of frustration we feel using apple... because even when apple is at their very worst, they're still better than windows at their very best

and yes, i will take the label of apple fanboy willingly

Good, because this post proves you're a blind fanboy.

 

[DaveF]

Windows would not allow duplicates of a single file with the same name to exist in the same folder, so this would then then eliminate dupes. However I failed to realize that OS X adds a number to the end of a duplicate file that is going to be created as a result of combining the folders. Windows would give notification that the file already exists and do you want to overwrite it. OS X just assumes you want two copies of the same file. This seems kind of silly and I don't see a use for it. I also see it as a way the OS could be exploited.

I think I see what you're saying. I've not encountered that specific behavior. But I do think Windows handles merging folders in a more sophisticated manner in some ways. It notes that there is a conflict for each individual file and gives the timestamp, enabling you to make an informed decision on whether to replace the new or old file. OS X simply tells you there's a conflict, with no information to decide which file is newer and should be kept.

 

[CIrawI3riCIge]

Sorry if this is already covered - big thread!

My iTunes library is big (12000ish tunes). I scroll down the songs, hit play on one, and carry on scrolling. What happens when the song finishes? The view jumps all the way back to where I started (the song after the one I selected initially). All my hard scrolling for nothing! Drives me MAD.

I completely agree. There should be an option in prefs to "turn off" auto return to the currently playing song. Apple would word it better of course, lol.

 

[SimonMW]

One thing I don't like about my Mac Pro is the DVD drive that sounds like an aircraft taking off. I can't watch movies properly with that racket going on.

 

[Digital Skunk]

The problems with Mac OS X are still very small I see. I said on post #200 or something that the worst issues users can come up with are so small that you could basically say that the OS is pretty good. The only thing I want is a more stable Leopard which will be here by 10.5.5, more robust hardware which will come when the cry baby USB using consumers get a life, and more hardware options for the great software that Apple comes with.

The whining about the Finder and scrolling is justified, but the least of Apples worries. They really need to fix their hardware lineup, the software is immaculate IMHO.

 

[gpapava]

Poor porting of some good applications. Skype, Google Earth, Msn messenger, Office etc.
Finder has to get better. Tabs would be great,i cant find a reason why apple didnt add this feature. (Iam using tiger not tried leopard yet)
No middle range mac with no integrated monitor.
Why apple doesnt make a deal with nvidia or ati so they can sell graphics cards only for macs? I dont mean all of em just some cards. If other macs could upgrade their cards as well, now its only for macpro.
U cant use your old 5.1 speakers on a mac without buying an accessory or something. I am not very sure about this.

And i also hate the fact that 1 month after i bought my g4 powerbook apple announced the transition to intel proccessors which are 4-5x times faster than mine!
Cheers

 

[eXan]

And i also hate the fact that 1 month after i bought my g4 powerbook apple announced the transition to intel proccessors which are 4-5x times faster than mine!

And I bought my iMac G5 5 months after the transition announcement and its still working fine. Just as fast as the day I bought it.

 

[nsbio]

(i) No Cut function in Finder.

(ii) Frequently crashing finder in Leopard.

(iii) Bad Trash management - I want to be able to free up space on a USB thumb drive without having to empty Trash on my startup drive!!!

(iv) nonfunctional features that were nevertheless widely touted as breakthroughs. Spotlight in Tiger is useless (try to search for a phrase - good luck) and gaining the functionality requires a paid upgrade. This is not a new feature, for which I am paying, but merely a bug fix. Granted, 10.5 has many useful features, but I am only talking about spotlight.

(v) networking in OS X was not functional before 10.5. Again, gaining a basic functionality, which should have been provided as a free update for Tiger, requires a paid upgrade.

(vi) Quicktime player by default throws some idiotic popup advertisements at you when all you wanted to do is to watch a clip from a web. Often, Quicktime can not play the clip but still promptly shows me the popup. This behavior is obnoxious and mirrors the worst of Windows.

(vii) Office for Mac is slower than that for PC. To be fair, the new Office 2007 in Windows has approached the sluggishness of Office 2004 that Mac users have "enjoyed" for years.

That's about it, more or less. I could make a much longer list for Windows annoyances, if asked to.

 

[TheStu]

(i) No Cut function in Finder.

(ii) Frequently crashing finder in Leopard.

(iii) Bad Trash management - I want to be able to free up space on a USB thumb drive without having to empty Trash on my startup drive!!!

(iv) nonfunctional features that were nevertheless widely touted as breakthroughs. Spotlight in Tiger is useless (try to search for a phrase - good luck) and gaining the functionality requires a paid upgrade. This is not a new feature, for which I am paying, but merely a bug fix. Granted, 10.5 has many useful features, but I am only talking about spotlight.

(v) networking in OS X was not functional before 10.5. Again, gaining a basic functionality, which should have been provided as a free update for Tiger, requires a paid upgrade.

(vi) Quicktime player by default throws some idiotic popup advertisements at you when all you wanted to do is to watch a clip from a web. Often, Quicktime can not play the clip but still promptly shows me the popup. This behavior is obnoxious and mirrors the worst of Windows.

(vii) Office for Mac is slower than that for PC. To be fair, the new Office 2007 in Windows has approached the sluggishness of Office 2004 that Mac users have "enjoyed" for years.

That's about it, more or less. I could make a much longer list for Windows annoyances, if asked to.

The only thing I will address is Quicktime. If you double click a file to open in quicktime, then all you get is that file. It is only if you open up Quicktime first that you get that annoying window with almost no purpose.

 

[decksnap]

The only thing I will address is Quicktime. If you double click a file to open in quicktime, then all you get is that file. It is only if you open up Quicktime first that you get that annoying window with almost no purpose.

There's also a preference to turn it off.

 

[shiseiryu1]

A few things:

Even though I was a long time windows user, I really love my iMac. However there are a few things that bug me:

1. Startup Sound! "DUUUNNNGG!" I read that if you hold a certain key it won't make the sound, but it always makes it for me...can't you just turn it off permanently? Thank god my iPhone doesn't make that noise every time I turn it on.
2. Pushing the red X doesn't close the application...except for iPhoto! This is very inconsistent and annoying! Also those who don't realize this end up using up all their RAM b/c they don't close all their apps.
3. To share photos in iPhoto the other person has to have iPhoto open.
4. No Maximize button (Zoom button sux and is annoying; esp if you used windows before)
5. In ability to redefine shortcuts. For example, I'd love to use CTRL-C to copy like windows instead of Apple-C.
6. Safari. We (meaning web developers) need one browser and that should be Firefox...Apple should ditch Safari and throw its weight behind firefox.
7. Delete button doesn't actually delete stuff. (why should you have to push Apple-Delete?)
8. No Cut Option in Finder
9. No Rename Option in Finder (Pushing Enter to rename something is extremely wierd).
10. Icons for Stacks; Visually you can't tell the different between a stack and a minimized application.

Just as a bonus here are my favorite things that were fixed/add with Leopard:
1. Finder is MUCH improved (especially with networking; was useless before)
2. Time Machine
3. Quick Look

 

[TBi]

1. Startup Sound! "DUUUNNNGG!" I read that if you hold a certain key it won't make the sound, but it always makes it for me...can't you just turn it off permanently? Thank god my iPhone doesn't make that noise every time I turn it on.

It's better than the pathetic beep PC's make

2. Pushing the red X doesn't close the application...except for iPhoto! This is very inconsistent and annoying! Also those who don't realize this end up using up all their RAM b/c they don't close all their apps.

It just uses more page file. OSX doesn't keep an inactive program in active memory. Neither does windows for that matter. Plus it makes opening the program again a lot faster.

4. No Maximize button (Zoom button sux and is annoying; esp if you used windows before)

I came from windows and i have no complaints about the zoom button. I never use it or maximise on windows, i resize windows to suit the size they need and use full screen if needed.

5. In ability to redefine shortcuts. For example, I'd love to use CTRL-C to copy like windows instead of Apple-C.

You can't redefine these in windows either

6. Safari. We (meaning web developers) need one browser and that should be Firefox...Apple should ditch Safari and throw its weight behind firefox.

I don't see why, i like safari on mac's. Just as i like IE on windows.

7. Delete button doesn't actually delete stuff. (why should you have to push Apple-Delete?)

This makes it easier not to make mistakes.