Things you HATE about Macs...

[kuwisdelu]

The debate on the green zoom button is getting a little rediculous. There is no point in having a button make a window full screen. I can't think of a single instance where I would want to have my whole screen taken up by one window, and if such a time arises I can live with dragging out the edge.

The only thing that Windows does better with the three buttons for window management is the consistency in the maximize button. I hate that in just about every application the zoom button does something different, and there is no way it indicates if it's 'zoomed in' or 'zoomed out'

Really I see no point in the minimize button, or the zoom button. the little red close button is enough for me.

This, I agree with. I don't use the zoom button, and if it were a maximize button, I wouldn't use that either.

Just for the love of God, never, ever make the red button quit a multi-windowed application. That would be terrible! I always get uncomfortable in Windows because I click the X when I don't actually want the application to quit. It's very annoying. And the task bar always makes me miss my dock

 

[TuffLuffJimmy]

This, I agree with. I don't use the zoom button, and if it were a maximize button, I wouldn't use that either.

Just for the love of God, never, ever make the red button quit a multi-windowed application. That would be terrible! I always get uncomfortable in Windows because I click the X when I don't actually want the application to quit. It's very annoying. And the task bar always makes me miss my dock

Yes, the most confusing thing with windows is that in certain applications, usually chat applications, they don't quit when you close their windows. you have to go to their 3 pixel-wide icon in the taskbar and right click to get rid of it.

Back to the zoom button: the only reason why I can see that the maximize button in windows works the way that it does is because the menus belong at the top of the screen. This is a little ironic because the people who want a maximize button in OSX are the same people who want the menus as part of each and every application window!

Oh and I forgot to make an OSX complaint! I hate that, and this is really nit-picky, but there isn't any sort of kerning (I'm not sure if kerning is the right word) in the dock. I just hate the way garageband's icon looks next to any other icon because of the way the icon is made it looks like there is a larger gap between it and the icon next to it.
This is hard to explain so I'll attach a picture.

 

[decksnap]

Oh and I forgot to make an OSX complaint! I hate that, and this is really nit-picky, but there isn't any sort of kerning (I'm not sure if kerning is the right word) in the dock. I just hate the way garageband's icon looks next to any other icon because of the way the icon is made it looks like there is a larger gap between it and the icon next to it.
This is hard to explain so I'll attach a picture.

Kerning is the right word. And I love the idea. Not sure if it's technically possible, but it would be great.

 

[Brianstorm91]

Almost every window doesn't need to be maximized (with the possible exception of photo software). If you do have that occasional program that needs a full sized window, just drag out the corners once and be done with it.

I maximise all of my windows, all of the time; I absolutely cannot handle it when they're not locked to all 4 corners of the screen.

 

[26139]

wow

I maximise all of my windows, all of the time; I absolutely cannot handle it when they're not locked to all 4 corners of the screen.

Completely the opposite for me. I want my window to be as big as needed and absolutely no more.

 

[joefinan]

Keychain

I hate the whole idea of the keychain. The thought that all my passwords for everything are in one, hackable place does not make me happy.

 

[idonotliketostu]

I maximise all of my windows, all of the time; I absolutely cannot handle it when they're not locked to all 4 corners of the screen.

What I hate the MOST about macs: you cannot get quicktime to fullscreen unless you pay up.


Obviously you can download vlc or w/e

 

[72930]

What I hate the MOST about macs: you cannot get quicktime to fullscreen unless you pay up.


Obviously you can download vlc or w/e

I can't test this (as I have Pro) but I'm fairly sure that you can get fullscreen QT in Leopard's regular QT.

 

[decksnap]

What I hate the MOST about macs: you cannot get quicktime to fullscreen unless you pay up.


Obviously you can download vlc or w/e

Have you used quicktime in the last year? You can go fullscreen without 'paying up', in Tiger and Leopard.

 

[CalBoy]

What I hate the MOST about macs: you cannot get quicktime to fullscreen unless you pay up.


Obviously you can download vlc or w/e

Not true, QT has had free Fullscreen for nearly 6 months now (slightly before Leopard was announced IIRC).

It's +F

 

[katejones]

I can't test this (as I have Pro) but I'm fairly sure that you can get fullscreen QT in Leopard's regular QT.

Yes the defualt quicktime in leopard does go full screen.

Im new to mac, had mine less than a week, things that bug me are mostly switching and bootcamp related.

bootcamp - My clock keeps messing up , I cant use printscreen without plugging in a fullsize keyboard, that you cant click by pressing the touchpad like you can in osx or any other windows laptop?

osx - why do some programs close when i close them (like photobooth) but when i close preview or quicktime the little light in the dock stays on. Can't change all the keyboard shortcuts that i can see, i'd prefer i could set copy to ctrl-C (lol), Uninstalling programs seems abit weird.

Apart from these things that im probably just noobing up and I could be here all day saying things i hate about windows, i love apple.

 

[Quillz]

Yes the defualt quicktime in leopard does go full screen.

Im new to mac, had mine less than a week, things that bug me are mostly switching and bootcamp related.

bootcamp - My clock keeps messing up , I cant use printscreen without plugging in a fullsize keyboard, that you cant click by pressing the touchpad like you can in osx or any other windows laptop?

osx - why do some programs close when i close them (like photobooth) but when i close preview or quicktime the little light in the dock stays on. Can't change all the keyboard shortcuts that i can see, i'd prefer i could set copy to ctrl-C (lol), Uninstalling programs seems abit weird.

Apart from these things that im probably just noobing up and I could be here all day saying things i hate about windows, i love apple.

I agree the closing behavior is a bit weird, but it also makes sense. It has to do with the functionality of the application. Safari, for example, as a web browser, can continue to function even without a window open, which is why using the red traffic light only closes a window, not the actual app. The same goes for Mail. But taking something like iPhoto, a photo editing application. Obviously, you can't edit photos without a window, so using the red traffic light on this will close the actual program. Same goes for Photo Booth.

Frankly, don't use the traffic lights at all. Just use Cmd+Q. It will fully quit an application every time. And don't minimize, just use Cmd+H.

 

[DaveF]

I don't understand why you keep telling us the green is fine as is. We've tried green as is, we know what it does right now, we understand why it does it and the logic behind it (well, some of us), and we don't like it.

I'm convinced that the green button's behavior is neither understandable nor has any logic behind it.

Full-screen maximization has uses -- I use it in Windows almost exclusively. The mistake made by the maximize haters is the common attitude "I don't do things that way, so no one else should either." Ironically, Apple uses the green button for this in at least one app: Numbers.

I don't care if maximize is brought to OS X -- but I do wish the green button did something consistent and useful. If it's meant to "optimize", this should be codified for developers and enforced.

 

[tsice19]

Okay.... That's a dell.... Not Microsoft windows coming with those applications.
and if you buy your mac online you can configure it to come with iWork preinstalled. A lot of people don't need word processors in fact I'd bet that 90% of people don't need a word processor like Microsoft Word, they just think they do. But if you're not publishing your work in a magazine or inserting a lot of tables text edit is plenty.

I couldn't disagree more. Most people DO need MS Word. Text Edit is definitely not plenty.

Now, I think NEO Office would be better to say then text edit.

 

[Shotglass]

osx - why do some programs close when i close them (like photobooth) but when i close preview or quicktime the little light in the dock stays on. Can't change all the keyboard shortcuts that i can see, i'd prefer i could set copy to ctrl-C (lol), Uninstalling programs seems abit weird.

You are not closing them by pressing the red light button, you're simply closing the window. In PhotoBooth, which is by definition a single-window application, closing the window means closing the program.
I would advise that you get the red light out of your system and use Command + Q(uit) to shut down applications.

 

[kuwisdelu]

I couldn't disagree more. Most people DO need MS Word. Text Edit is definitely not plenty.

Now, I think NEO Office would be better to say then text edit.

Lots of people do need MS Word. But I'd actually be quite confident in saying that the majority of people who have it don't actually need it. Many people who have MS Office probably don't even touch Powerpoint or Excel and could really get by with TextEdit. And probably many more could get by with NeoOffice, and NeoOffice would still be overkill. This isn't saying that lots of people need MS Office. But I think it's a lot fewer than who actually own it.

 

[Quillz]

I'm convinced that the green button's behavior is neither understandable nor has any logic behind it.

Full-screen maximization has uses -- I use it in Windows almost exclusively. The mistake made by the maximize haters is the common attitude "I don't do things that way, so no one else should either." Ironically, Apple uses the green button for this in at least one app: Numbers.

I don't care if maximize is brought to OS X -- but I do wish the green button did something consistent and useful. If it's meant to "optimize", this should be codified for developers and enforced.

You'll see the green traffic light works nearly perfectly in Safari. By default, it's set up to toggle between a user-defined setting (default) and an "auto-fit" option so that the window gets just wide enough that you don't need the horizontal scroll bar.

I think the main problem is the "auto-fit" is something that has to be defined by the developer, there is no OS standard. Thus, many developers just have it go to full-screen, while others actually use a more accurate setting, causing the seemingly inconsistent behavior.

 

[Jelite]

When you drag and drop folders they dont snap into place (unless im missing something).

The remote doesnt stop the screensaver.

The mouse acceleration.

Only had my mini a week and it's locked up, crashed and programmes have crashed numerous times, i have been putting it through it's paces with encoding, tagging etc, but still i thought "it just works".

 

[JEB229]

When you drag and drop folders they dont snap into place (unless im missing something).

If your talking about on the desktop, just control click on the desktop, go to "Show view options" and at the bottom choose snap to grid in the arrange dropbox.

 

[HLdan]

If your talking about on the desktop, just control click on the desktop, go to "Show view options" and at the bottom choose snap to grid in the arrange dropbox.

And to add to that do the same thing on Finder windows.

 

[Jelite]

inbetween finder windows i meant, they just drop wherever you let go of the mouse button.

i know you can go to clean up and arrange icons by but i want them to do this automatically.

 

[mackindergarten]

In Finder, open up View Options (command-J) and select the Arrange By option, useful for you.

 

[HLdan]

inbetween finder windows i meant, they just drop wherever you let go of the mouse button.

i know you can go to clean up and arrange icons by but i want them to do this automatically.

You have to go into the "View Options" and make sure the "Arrange By" is set to something other than "None" and you can drag and drop files in between Finder windows and they will set themselves properly.

 

[Jelite]

yeah i've just found it, thanks everyone.

Edit: Looks like i have to do this for each folder though is there no way to have it as default?

 

[dejo]

The mistake made by the maximize haters is the common attitude "I don't do things that way, so no one else should either."

The opposite could be said of many maximize-lovers: "I do things that way, so every one else should too."