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ThinkSecret's iPod Rendering

Originally posted by nagromme
Here you go. Is this so bad that Apple is dead?
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I never thought apple users to be lazy, but this complaining about the distance of the buttons from the scrollwheel is rediculous/hilariuous. we dont have to get in our cars to change the songs, its still right there!. i cant believe how fruststrated im am reading that 90% of my fellow readers are boycoting new ipods because the buttons are .99mm from the original position. anyone who is going to get short of breath fastforwarding through their playlist better stay away from the new pods. F*$@!%G rediculous.

LONG LIVE THE NEW IPOD!

ps. so i guess there won't be quicktime ability...
now thats something to be mad about...😡 😡
 
Originally posted by Wonder Boy
I never thought apple users to be lazy, but this complaining about the distance of the buttons from the scrollwheel is rediculous/hilariuous. we dont have to get in our cars to change the songs, its still right there!. i cant believe how fruststrated im am reading that 90% of my fellow readers are boycoting new ipods because the buttons are .99mm from the original position. anyone who is going to get short of breath fastforwarding through their playlist better stay away from the new pods. F*$@!%G rediculous.

LONG LIVE THE NEW IPOD!

ps. so i guess there won't be quicktime ability...
now thats something to be mad about...😡 😡
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There's no good reason for them to move them. Why make something easy to use and compact harder to use and spread out?
 
Snobs

Some of you people are a bunch of Mac snobs. The iPod is a revolutionary device no matter where the stupid buttons are located. 30 Gigs for $500 (ok, I wanted 40GB) is fine, I'm gonna buy when the day they come out. In two years, when the 100GB model comes out, I'll buy that one. You guys remind me of Chicago Bulls fans that stopped being fans once Jordan retired. So it doesn't have the buttons you like - now you're willing to condemn Apple and the earth-shaking design work they've provided just in the last few years (new iMac, TiBook, new iBook, iPod, OS X). Does it play MP3's (and later AAC) - YES. Does it work with both an Apple's Firewire and a PC's USB/USB2 - YES. Is it small in physical size while being large in drive space - even at 30GB - YES!
 
I just think that the styling is less clean on the new ones, with the buttons not around the wheel. it seems less intuitive as well. we'll see. i have plenty big hands either way, so i don't care so much 😀
 
Button layout and USB 2.0

Personally I never liked those thin buttons on the circumference of the jog-wheel and these new round ones would surely be less flimsy. By the way, the rumored button layout resembles the interface of the QuickTime player. This in itself may spark new rumors about a vPod.

The USB 2.0 part of the rumor is a bit odd. Apple does not support the connection for any of its products and for good reasons too. For one, an iPod connected via USB 2.0 would not recharge its battery through it like it does with FireWire. Perhaps the proposed docking station would take care of recharging with an AC adaptor but that would take away from the simplicity of the iPod. Another reason why Apple does not support USB 2.0 is that it is in its own interests to support the FireWire standard. If Windows users want to use an iPod they would have it invest in an inexpensive FireWire card; that is, if their PeeCees do not have FireWire on-board already.

I for one am looking forward to the bigger capacity iPods and even more so to the ACC support. Ideally all current versions of the iPod would also have new firmware to playback the ACC format and access the new functions, whatever they may be.
 
Originally posted by Shadowfax
I just think that the styling is less clean on the new ones, with the buttons not around the wheel. it seems less intuitive as well. we'll see. i have plenty big hands either way, so i don't care so much 😀
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I agree.

I'm just glad I got the 20 gig. Like any product it doesn't mean the next one won't be better; it just means that this version is fine with me. (it's the same reason I keep my Bluberry iBook: it works great, looks great.)
 
Originally posted by Wonder Boy
I never thought apple users to be lazy, but this complaining about the distance of the buttons from the scrollwheel is ridiculous/hilariuous . . .
LONG LIVE THE NEW IPOD!
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You are right. Three points:

1. People around here depend on something ridiculous to complain about like it's the end of the world. Examples include charging for iLife, tabless Safari, and brushed metal (O, the humanity!).

2. Apple changed the buttons because that's how commerce works. At some point, you have to make the older models look and feel older so that people will be at least a little more prone to put their old devices on eBay and buy new ones. I know it sounds ridiculous, but it's true. It also gets some fence-sitters to finally go ahead and buy because they think they're getting the latest and greatest. Maybe some functionality will be added or ergonomics improved, or maybe they just did it to keep the iPod looking fresh.

3. Maybe there are so many whiners because a lot of these people never jumped ship to Windows when the vast majority did. These are people who simply hate change. They hate thinking different, despite hype to the contrary. So they stayed where they were out of fear of change. Counterintuitive, maybe, but of course I'm just a recent switcher to Macs. 😀
 
I don't know if anyone picked up on it or if it amounts to anything, but as I was updating to 10.2.5 I was looking at the previous iPod Software Update (1.2.6) and the description listed:
"Increased playback time on scroll-wheel iPods"

Anyone else pick up on this?
 
1.2.6 has been out for some time. "Scroll-wheel" refers to those which physically revolve, as opposed to the newer "glass-like" wheels that are touch sensitive. It doesn't mean the new iPods will be entirely without wheels.
 
Originally posted by calel
I don't know if anyone picked up on it or if it amounts to anything, but as I was updating to 10.2.5 I was looking at the previous iPod Software Update (1.2.6) and the description listed:
"Increased playback time on scroll-wheel iPods"

Anyone else pick up on this?
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I'm pretty sure that's just referring to the earlier iPods with a moving scroll wheel as opposed to the current ones with the trackwheels.
 
Re: what if...

Originally posted by xjohn
This is ridiculous speculation, but what if...

Remember the mysterious 'enclosure ' mentioned by MacWhispers? I remember someone saying that one of the two openings on the back was about the size of an ipod.

What if the 'docking' station is actually a tablet-like device, and the new ipod can function as both an ipod and as a hard drive for the tablet device?

Maybe the other opening on the enclosure is for the battery?

Of course, the likelihood of this is very slim... but... what if?

(I apologize if someone has suggested this already!)
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yay! someone reads what i write and actually remembers it. later in that thread i outlined exactly why i believe such a symbiosis would be a great idea. i am hoping that the tablet will also be introduced on april 28th, but i won't be surprised if it's not.
(i don't have the money for one yet, anyway. gotta save!)
 
Originally posted by pinks
Once again, come on MR, furnish us with this rock-solid information you have: your credibility as a sensible, moderate discussion forum - based on the investigation of well-founded, sourced evidence - is at stake!!

- pinks
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arn & the MR staff dont owe you squat!! PERIOD.😡
 
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
There's no good reason for them to move them. Why make something easy to use and compact harder to use and spread out?
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But it's not harder! I can't believe this is an issue!😡
 
Originally posted by s_owen03
do they need a new iPod? the old ones seem to be doing fairly well, and this is going to make a lot of 20GB users fairly unhappy... bad move for apple.
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Yeah. Introducing new product in the non-evolving computer/electronics technology sector [sarcasm] is a bad idea for fear of making existing users "unhappy".🙄
 
Originally posted by pinks
I am lead to assume one of two things. Either Arn has seen this new device in all its plastic glory or this "fact" remains as a "reported" fragment of news/speculation/rumour - however reliable the source of this information may seem to be!!!! This is the whole ethos of this site!!!!...

...All I am saying is that he has taken someone's word to be factual, which these sites teach you never to do, and I fear for the consequences if this word is wrong. That is what I mean by the rep of this site is at stake!

This is, surely, the sensible, pragmatic position in all of this!

- pinks
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Why does the description "idiot savant" keep ringing in my head everytime I read "pinks" convictional/paranoid posts? Why does the "idiot" part ring louder than the "savant" part?

Pinks-
Take your medicine and a nap. When you wake up you may come to realize that, despite its renowned reputation for credible information and/or educated speculation, MacRumors is still just a "rumor" site. C'mon, say it with me, "MacRumors".🙄

Even if arn has confirmed his information and states that something is in fact true, he has NO OBLIGIATION whatsoever to devulge the source of his information to anyone, including you and I.

BTW, have you ever seen the "Tweek" character in SouthPark? OH...every morning in the mirror huh? Well then, "have another cup of coffee and calm down..." 😉
 
I think the old button design was more innovative as far as looks go, but honestly this new design looks much easier to use. I'm surprised so many people here think that the circle design is easy, for me the buttons are too thin and hard to hit without accidentally moving the scroll wheel. I also don't see how this new design would make the buttons harder to reach or require two hands to operate. That doesn't make sense.

The only disappointments I have about this new iPod are that the big one will be 30 GB instead of 40 GB, and that there isn't really anything that revolutionary about it. Unless there is some completely new software functionality that is yet to be revealed, this doesn't really have anything that makes my heart race with excitement like it did when iPods were first introduced.
 
It's quite possible that the reason why Apple waited so long to release the new iPod was to add a 'significant' amount of new features. This makes sense in terms of creating critical mass of inventory of new iPods while effectively depleting the old. I hope these new iPods are as revolutionary as the first ones and not a simple rearrangement of buttons and increase in harddrive size.

Does anyone know if they will come out on a "Tuesday" by any chance? 🙄
 
Maybe I'm the one getting old and cynical but I remember when the first iPod was announced everyone was asking why you needed 5 whole gigs in an MP3 player. Now you complain that 30 isn't enough?
"$299 is too much!" you whine? A "$199 5gig iPod would be great!" Buy one used or keep dreaming of the day Audi lowers the price of the S4 Quattro to $5,000. If you don't have the kibbles for the latest greatest, then break out the bits for yesterday's greatest and be happy you've got something at all.
I'd sell you my 5gig, but I've got a girlfriend with a long commute who I'm gonna give it to. Just wait though, there will be plenty of people out there lining up to buy the new ones who already have iPods they wouldn't mind parting with for a reasonable price.
As far as the aesthetics go, it's hard to judge until we see the real deal. When was the last time that Apple released something that was openly criticized by the majority of Macusers as being too ugly to throw down top dollar? Not looking back in retrospect, but at the time it was released.
 
Re: WEAK

Originally posted by damax452
If this iPod is real, its just further proof that Apple is headed towards failure.
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Yeah. They're really F'ing up. BIG TIME!!🙄

Originally posted by damax452
They come up with a brilliant product and end up uglifying it in an update.
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Hmmm...classic CRT iMac to Flat panel iMac. Why, you're right!! Very poorly recieved by the nay-sayers. At least for about 2 seconds. In regards to the [rumored] new iPods, I'm sure consumers are really going to be upset with the new hardware/software features that we don't even yet know about [not including the ones that have already been rumored] and that Apple has already researched to make sure we want. Again...🙄

Originally posted by damax452
And the pricing is still not competitive with other players out there.
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Maybe because the "players" you speak of are just now getting to where Apple has already been for the past 1.5 years. This update will put the iPod on top again. Not only in terms of aesthetics, but with the features and fuctionality that, in typical Apple fashion, will blow us away.😀

Originally posted by damax452
They could have made so much money if they left the design *exactly* the same and did a price scheme of:

5gb $199
10gb $299
20gb $399
40gb $499
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In terms of having "left the design *exactly* the same", not improving on an excellent product is the last thing Apple should do because there's this thing called "competition" [I know you referenced it above in regards to pricing] which Apple's products seem to attract in spades.

About price structuring. Yes, Apple would have surely remained profitable and expanded during the past couple of years, especially during this horrid economy, if they just would've played "price wars". What?! They did remain profitable and expand during all this time? Through innovation and marketing? Apple was one of the only two computer manufacturers to do this? Remarkable!!😎

Originally posted by damax452
...We'll see when they are announced. Only time will tell.
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Exactly.😉



Price drops would obviously be welcome by everyone, but I dont think Apple is focusing on becoming the Taco Dell of the tech. industry.

Just in case SJ & Co. are reading this, let me re-emphasize: "Price drops would obviously be welcome by everyone..."😀
 
I don't know, it sort of looks photoshopped to me. If you zoom it in to 3000%, you can see where the pixels get fuzzy in an abnormal fashion.😱
 
It IS photoshopped. None of these are actual Apple publicity images. They are all mockups based on the rumors. But Arn says they are right on.

. . . or was that humor? 😛
 
Originally posted by Awimoway
It IS photoshopped. None of these are actual Apple publicity images. They are all mockups based on the rumors. But Arn says they are right on.

. . . or was that humor? 😛
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Ha ha ha. It was humor. God, I swear I'm like a million bucks sometimes.
 
So, who thinks that thos buttons are ACTUALLY pieces of plastic with led's behind them that light up when pressed? Remember the `lighting enclosure' or whatever Apple files a patent for? Disco iPods!! 🙂

No, seriously, anyone thought about the possibility of the iPod including this new enclosure?
 
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