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Thinner 15-Inch MacBook Pro Coming with Retina Display and USB 3.0?
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I was recently offered close to 700$ for my 2007 MBP by Powermax, and it'll run Mountain Lion just fine, 5 years later. As for my factory unlocked iPhone 4, I also looked into it and I can probably get like 450$ for it.
I'd say the resale value is still high for Macs of all kinds. Every time I put up an old ATV, Airport Express, or Base Station on Craigslist, it sells within a day for the price I asked for. To give comparison, took me a week to sell my Western Digital stuff. Apple's hardware are hot commodity items.
Note: this guy said VGA ports were important to him so make sure you filter through that lens.
Hey some folks like legacy ports more than others. To each their own.
Microsoft will be ok. They are a software company and their tablet OS will actually do ok compared to the fragmented Android PoS out there.
It's companies like Dell that need to be worried...no one is buying PC's for home anymore and even businesses are switching to iPads for many industries.
Hey if people want to start dumping Intel based Macs I'm right there. I may not be able to run Mountain Lion but even getting to Lion gets me into the iCloud Country Club.
Ok then do the math yourself, don't get other people to do the work for you, anyway...current high res mbp 15" 1,680 × 1,050 = 1764000, 2880x1800 = 5184000, devide the larger number than the smaller= app. 2.939 to the third decimal rounding off.
This isn't 4 times the pixel count. High res mbp current will have a higher resolution that hidpi enabled future one.
Absolutely Correct
Come again? I had you down as a pretty clever guy.
Doesn't the fact that the new ipad has 4 times the pixels and varies nary (sic) a millimeter of ui space give you just a little hint that 1 pixel has become 4?
If 2 pixels had become 4 that would require a 4/2 = 2 times the pixel count, that would only require twice the amount of pixels, not four times.
One pixel doubled in both the x and y axis becomes four pixels...
I really did expect better from you, and I am not saying this as a put down honestly.
It's ok mate. We're just having some fun arguments on the internets. I don't take much personally and I know you're a standup guy that's more passionate about computing than most.
I'm certainly no Math major so I was trying to account for the axis without doing it on paper.
It is four times the pixel count from 1440x900 (the current default shipping resolution for the 15" MBP) to 2880x1800.
For a very large percentage of MBP owners that will result in no change in effective real estate.
If you want to compare optional panel resolutions, then maybe Apple will include an option for a 1680x1050 or 1920x1200 non-pixel-doubled display?
Maybe we misunderstood, I meant that the tapering of the current 13/15" MBPs is needed for picking them up. I don't think previous MBPs (or Powerbooks) had less of a taper.
The fact of the matter is most people who value real estate as the original poster who asked me the question here are using the high res macbook, all the people that require anti glare (upwards of 30% for sure) are also using it. It's hardly a high end option, I would wager most own a high res pro. All of these will be using 3/4 of their screen real estate in hidpi. The original poster asked if they are going to lose screen real estate in hidpi from the high res current panel as screen real estate was important to them. And I told them yes.
I am a professional and I use my SD slot often.
Slow the roll: You're confusing me with someone. I only use VGA on my work-issued PC. I agree it's a relic.
But as to SD, it's pretty widespread. It's a very thin port and rumors don't have Apple's axe swinging towards removing it.
Anyways, plenty of professionals (but not necessarily professional photographers) use consumer level cameras for various tasks (mine are design documentation related). When I do buy a good camera, I will probably give some preference to ones that have SD slots, simply because that's convenient for me. No cords, no dongles, no readers. This assumes Apple leaves it on, which I hope they do. I assume it's just not a dealbreaker for them - it's thin and is not prime real estate.
Slow the roll: You're confusing me with someone. I only use VGA on my work-issued PC. I agree it's a relic.
But as to SD, it's pretty widespread. It's a very thin port and rumors don't have Apple's axe swinging towards removing it.
Anyways, plenty of professionals (but not necessarily professional photographers) use consumer level cameras for various tasks (mine are design documentation related). When I do buy a good camera, I will probably give some preference to ones that have SD slots, simply because that's convenient for me. No cords, no dongles, no readers. This assumes Apple leaves it on, which I hope they do. I assume it's just not a dealbreaker for them - it's thin and is not prime real estate.
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People still arguing about whether Apple's "Pro" machines are actually for the so-called "professional" market? Have people not learned anything over the years? I've been saying it for years now. The "Pro" moniker is for the people who will pay extra for something with the "Pro" name attached to it. Apple's "Pro" products have absolutely nothing in common with the truly business oriented machines available from other companies. They're lacking everything machines from other companies include. Things like on-site multi-year support included as standard, various types of ports and connectivity, etc. The MacBook "Pro" is purely a consumer device with the word "Pro" slapped on so Apple can charge 3x more than what an equal Windows machine cost.
On the optical drive front, it's a good thing Apple is dropping the optical drive. Why? Because Apple used the lowest quality, worst built pieces of junk that die if you look at them the wrong way. I've had so many Apple optical drives die that I've lost count. As long as Apple still supports optical drives in the OS so people can use their own external and significantly higher quality drives, then everything will be good.
Apple DOES need to support blu-ray disc now though. There is no excuse. Not just for movies, especially since OS X already supports a lot of the DRM required for blu-ray disc thanks to iTunes "HD" (not even close to blu-ray quality) downloads. But they need to support writing to blu-ray discs in Finder. They need to give blu-ray the same level of support they give DVDs. Yeah, I know, people are all "flash drives!" "internet sharing!" blah blah blah. But you know what? I can get a BD-R for around a buck. Thats 25GB of storage on a single disc for a single dollar. Where else can you find storage for that cheap per gigabyte? Even DVD-Rs are still significantly cheaper than flash drives and such for storage and price per gigabyte. At $1 for 25GB of storage, thats cheap enough to just make a copy of the data and give to whoever needs it. Would you do that with a $20 32GB flash drive? Not unless you have more money than common sense. For the price of a single 32GB flash drive or SD card, I can get 500GB worth of blu-ray storage.
Speaking of that, Apple needs to update the so-called "SuperDrive". I can walk into Fry's right now and buy an external LG blu-ray writer that is barely larger than the MacBook Air "SuperDrive" for $100. It is bus powered with one connector, just like the MBA drive, and it writes blu-ray discs. As well as DVDs and all of that other nonsense.
On the optical drive front, it's a good thing Apple is dropping the optical drive. Why? Because Apple used the lowest quality, worst built pieces of junk that die if you look at them the wrong way. I've had so many Apple optical drives die that I've lost count. As long as Apple still supports optical drives in the OS so people can use their own external and significantly higher quality drives, then everything will be good.
Apple DOES need to support blu-ray disc now though. There is no excuse. Not just for movies, especially since OS X already supports a lot of the DRM required for blu-ray disc thanks to iTunes "HD" (not even close to blu-ray quality) downloads. But they need to support writing to blu-ray discs in Finder. They need to give blu-ray the same level of support they give DVDs. Yeah, I know, people are all "flash drives!" "internet sharing!" blah blah blah. But you know what? I can get a BD-R for around a buck. Thats 25GB of storage on a single disc for a single dollar. Where else can you find storage for that cheap per gigabyte? Even DVD-Rs are still significantly cheaper than flash drives and such for storage and price per gigabyte. At $1 for 25GB of storage, thats cheap enough to just make a copy of the data and give to whoever needs it. Would you do that with a $20 32GB flash drive? Not unless you have more money than common sense. For the price of a single 32GB flash drive or SD card, I can get 500GB worth of blu-ray storage.
Speaking of that, Apple needs to update the so-called "SuperDrive". I can walk into Fry's right now and buy an external LG blu-ray writer that is barely larger than the MacBook Air "SuperDrive" for $100. It is bus powered with one connector, just like the MBA drive, and it writes blu-ray discs. As well as DVDs and all of that other nonsense.
Who is "us"? You and the rest of the sit-in crowd lol? Besides, I stated all if this in the OP.
Mixed in between your mangled language, "we" were able to gather you think stock price = competency. If you were over the age of 16, you'd have witnessed thousands of tech companies drown in their own arrogance over the last 20 years. Believe me, Apple is not immune. Their heavy train is headed downhill and gaining speed, and just may not make that turn at the bottom. Shame - historically they've made the finest personal equipment on the planet.
Sigh all those poor cash drunken passengers like you back there passed out will never feel the impact
Marcus re-read my first post before you right in capitals again, as well as the point I am making about the high res panel of the current pro having more real estate than a "retina" mbp in hidpi. This hasn't got anything to do with font. It's to do with pixels and pixel count.
I love that the corporate orifices are getting mad because Apple isn't catering for them.
Apple doesn't make business grade laptops, HP and Dell do. So stop crying like babies, go back to Windows and let the rest of us enjoy what will be yet another incredible product.
Apple doesn't make business grade laptops, HP and Dell do. So stop crying like babies, go back to Windows and let the rest of us enjoy what will be yet another incredible product.
I love how everyone was all for dropping the disc drive, which was ubiquitous in any laptop offering over the last 2 decades... but the second Apple tries to move forward and drop ethernet/FireWire all hell breaks loose
Ethernet was developed almost 40 years ago... I think it's time we move on people. I understand it's hard letting go and accepting change, but there are plenty of ways to cope.
Perhaps it'll include 802.11ac (doubt it though). Perhaps we'll see Thunderbolt to ethernet adapters. Perhaps we'll see USB 3.0 to ethernet adapters. Perhaps the rumor is wrong and there's a smaller ethernet port with an adapter. Who knows?
As for FireWire, well... I'm pretty sure USB 3.0 is here to overtake that. But I think there are also future revisions for FireWire in the works to compete with USB 3.0, though it doesn't sound like that Apple's direction anymore.
But indeed, sucks for everyone that requires the use of these two ports either by their field or company.
What's defined as forward though? Forward in technology should be advances that make the lives of users easier and more convenient, which is the purpose of technology in general.
Does the removal of the Ethernet port make users lives more convenient by more than a marginal amount? Who really thinks the current MBP is too fat and a big slab? Are there a lot of people who can't handle the extra weight? Even if there were, there's a solution for that: the MBA.
It's like trying to get the best of both worlds but ending up with neither.
lol, best comment in the thread, agreed about the rest as well. Superdrive for a piece of crap dvd/cd reader/writer in 2012 has got to be one of the biggest misnomers in computing history btw. It's a testament to apple's reality distortion field and marketing that they can get away (well almost) calling it like that without becoming a laughing stock. Imagine if hp were calling their 2012 dvd/cd readers/writers superdrives...
Yep, you're right. If the new MBP ships with a default panel resolution of 2880x1800 then I'm pretty confident that there will be other resolution options.
If nothing else you could turn off the HiDPI mode on the 2880x1800 display and get out the reading glasses.
I don't have one, but if it follows Ethernet standards (and I assume it does) the max would be 100Mb. Networks have been migrating to 1000Mb for some time and the only way to get this would be with the Thunderbolt display (or a Thunderbolt -> Ethernet adapter). USB 2 has 480Mb/s so it can't reach gigabit speeds.
It's not a problem with the actual port, I mean that each time I want to hold a presentation or connect to a projector or a TV, I simply have to use an adapter, which is bulky and has to be bought separately, and not forgotten at home. Meanwhile, people who bought a crappy netbook can instantly connect to anything without an adapter since they have VGA.
Yes, I know, VGA is old and stupid and bulky, but most things still use it, except high end monitors.
I'm not saying VGA should come back, but something has to be done to make modern computers easily connect to every screen and projector, even if the projector is more than 2 years old.
If the problem with the ethernet port is the size of the connector, why not design a smaller connector? It's not live they haven't released miniaturized connectors before (think mini display port). A mini-RJ45 to RJ45 adaptor wouldn't need to do anything clever and could support gigabit ethernet. Or am I missing some technical or political hurdle?
I wonder what that reported big, small, and optimal resolution they are claiming at 9to5 is, if it's either hidpi, ie 2x and 1x then what's the middle there to have three options?
You'd need some pretty hefty bottle glasses btw with the non hidpi mode, if current os font are small, I can't begin to think what they ll look like at 1/3 the size...