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the iPad 2 is in no way fat and why does it need to be even thinner .... id rather have better specs but thats just me

Come now... you know it's not just going to be thinner, it's also going to be lighter. And, as many have remarked, the current iPad is just a bit too heavy to be comfortable for many uses.
 
Looking at any new ipad a number of things come to mind.

This is a portable device

What makes it more portable would be a very important factor. In the ipad1 to ipad2 move it was thinner and lighter.

Longer battery life would also be of extra benefit for portability.

So the rumours around this screen from Sharp would tend to have a little more credibility than just a better quality screen, that adds weight/bulk to the device.

Although we have seen that Apple has a new strategy that people seemed to have missed here (sorry if I have misread anyone else's post).

That is the iphone4S 4 3GS strategy. Apple may well keep the iPad2 maybe even have the iPad2S and introduce an iPad3, so this different screen strategy may just see a greater range available.

Given that this is a natural way to get greater coverage to the price segment.

Likewise they will probably have even a iPhone 5, 4S, 4 and maybe even a "cheaper" plastic cased 3.

All make sense and give greater price point appeal and enable them to introduce new technologies into the line, without having to ramp up massive inventory before launch. And having had some historic awareness of electronics production, supply/yield is a BIG issue with any new product launch.

This also would be one explanation for the multiple prototypes being seen.
 
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They just have so much cash that almost anything possible
 
It has more capital in reserve than most countries but not the richest in the world.

Take a look at the energy companies and medical.

I know, I was quoting Icaras saying that Apple was the richest, not true at all.
 
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I stood in line for both the iP1 and iP2. Love the device. I've also fooled around with just about every other iteration of the tablet including both Kindle and Nook's latest and greatest. IMO, you see just how much Apple nailed it when you use these other devices.

That said, I won't buy another iP unless Apple releases a 7" version. This is about the only thing I think the other guys got right.

Enjoy your ipad 2 and 1 cause that 7" NEVER gonna happen
 
If Apple's the one spearheading the progressed production of iPad screens, I'm sure "second tier" panels are not what we'll be looking at next year.

Just like there are no second tier components today. :rolleyes: What would you rather have on your MBA, the Toshiba ssd or the Samsung? How about the backlight bleeding on the iPad 2?
 
Well that is a good question. Try this on. In Countries like China, the government subsidizes the cost of the labor force, sometimes raw materials, and often the building of a factory. The result is a product being produced in a Country like China costs less because of government subsidies. American manufacturing can't compete because we have to unfairly compete with a Country that artificially deflates the actual manufacturing cost. Add to the mix that the US government actually gave companies tax incentives to relocate over seas. On top of that, companies overseas do not have to worry about a whole bunch of employee related lawsuits. Add to that, all the people who know how to build factories left our Country.

Moreover, Apple used to own all its own factories, including ones in the United States. On top of the other factors I mentioned, owning your own factories often times hurt a publicly traded company. The reason is Apple would have to account for inventory on hand. Inventory sitting in a factory you own negatively effects your earnings. If Apple orders products from third parties the inventory doesn't count against Apple's earnings until Apple takes delivery. Further, Apple can pit different manufacturers against one another to reduce its manufacturing cost.

The United States has an abundance of Engineers. Many of the Engineers might not be from America, as we love to give foreigners preferential treatment when seeking an education in the United States. This isn't because there aren't plenty of qualified potential american engineering students it is because the Universities charge foreign students a lot more money to attend the Universities in the Us then Americans. If could make triple the money selling an education to a foreigner, wouldn't you? Once again, Americans are at a disadvantage here because these foreigner's education is usually paid for by foreign government resources.

Once graduated, the foreigners often stay in the United States and take jobs where American educated Engineers could have taken had they been let into the Universities.

If you want manufacturing to come back to the US along with the associate wealth, you instead get rid of the BS Free trade Agreements, which are not free. It used to be the case when a Country had an unfair trade advantage or engaged in policies we didn't like, we would hit their products with a tariff when it was shipped into the Country. It worked this way since the birth of our Country until about twenty years ago. This gave American companies the ability to compete with companies in foreign countries that had an unfair advantage. This in turn produced americans jobs, which generated profit spend in other businesses, and taxes used to pay for government services. IN the height of the greatest economic boom every (the eighties), greedy american companies decided they wanted even more profit. So they used their new found wealth to buy off Congress. Congress passed NAFTA, with allowed manufactured goods from Countries like China to freely enter our Country through Canada and Mexico. With NAFTA all the jobs along with the local wages, taxes, and pride said good bye.

Can you guys not put 2 and 2 together?
Why would you want to be spending a few billion dollars in another country.

You could keep it at home and have a lot more cash going into the local economy and create hundreds of thousands of jobs. Plus apple have greater control over manufacturing and therefor better quality products.

It would also mark the beginning of new tech manufacturing which would give the USA more buying power over raw materials. It would reduce chinas monopoly on manufacturing which is key to the emerging technological world.

As I said it can't happen in the USA because the USA isn't geared to educating engineers.
 
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I don't want to be the one spoiling the party but I can't see the retina at that res happening early next year.. If it were to happen In that time frame with the definite high demand this thing will pull I'd say we will be waiting a while till we actually get it after ordering.

As a few of you have said before me, to try and help to defeat demand they should split the iPad into 'standard' and 'pro' categories.. That way they can also add the extra $$ that like myself will be willing to pay to get extra features like the retina display.

I do hope apple pull it off but can't see it ready for demand in 3-4months.
 
The "retina" display on the iPad seems like an attractive idea but Apple will also have to increase RAM, CPU/GPU power, and include more storage to make it work. Games like Infinity Blade 2 are already 1+GB in size and are going to take gigabytes more with "retina" textures.
 
Any chance of Siri on here even though some will be wi-fi only? Not that any of us know for sure anyways.

The whole purpose of Siri, as far as Apple is concerned, is to sell more devices. So it makes just perfect business sense that any _new_ device would come with Siri, and that old devices don't have it.


Doubling the resolution is far more important than hitting the 300dpi mark on an iPad. You generally hold an iPad further from your face than an iPhone, so "retina" isn't quite needed.

That's misunderstanding what "retina display" means. A "retina display" is a display where you can't see individual pixels from normal viewing distance. Since the normal viewing distance of an iPad is further away than the normal viewing distance of an iPhone, an iPad display with slightly lower resolution _is_ indeed a retina display.
 
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Viewing distance

assuming they don't change screen sizes, 2048x1536 will only get them 264 dpi.

it would have to be 2560 x 1920 to be 330 dpi

330 DPI is required for "Retina" resolution at the typical 12" viewing distance that Apple mentions.

33 DPI for "Retina" resolution at 10 feet.
3300 DPI for "Retina" resolution at 1.2 inches.

264 DPI for "Retina" resolution at 15" viewing distance. Do the math.
 
This will only happen if the technology is better than IPS. Apple isn't about to degrade the viewing quality on their biggest "media consumption" device. There's no way it'll be 330 PPI since that will break app compatibility. It's 263 PPI, 2048x1536.
 
All I want is for Apple to make enough of them so finding one in stores isn't like hunting for the holy grail.

I'll be ordering one the minute it releases :D
 
Now this is worthy upgrade to my ipad 1 :) (not ipad 2) as iphone "5" will be a worthy upgrade to my iphone 4 (not iphone 4s) :cool:
 
Apple filed patents for dual light bar OLEDs. If there is no IPS, maybe OLED could be the answer. It would then be sharp, vibrant, and have a wide viewing angle. In other words, the best display on the planet.

Too bad apple doesn't know the first thing about producing OLED themselves. Not a fan of patents for ideas when the specifics haven't been worked out.
 
Meh.

Analysts + Darts + Dartboardfullofwords = Mayhem.

Wake me when Apple says something about a model 3. I'll probably buy one to four for the family.

Nobody cares if you sleep in. Set your alarm clock and show some responsibility.

:D
 
I want my beloved IPS :(


I wasn't able to find any info on this, but perhaps some expert can weigh in: How do IGZO panels compare to ISP panels? Or do we simply not have that info yet?


This will only happen if the technology is better than IPS. Apple isn't about to degrade the viewing quality on their biggest "media consumption" device. There's no way it'll be 330 PPI since that will break app compatibility. It's 263 PPI, 2048x1536.

It is not clear from the articles or from anything I can find out about Sharp what the structure of the LCD will be. IGZO refers to the technology for making the thin film transistors that produce the electric fields that drive the liquid crystal material. ips and its variants refers to the structure of the electrodes relative to the liquid crystal material, a different topic.

Compared to previous ways of making thin film transistors IGZO seems to allow faster operation, lower temperature processing, more flexibility in choosing a substrate and maybe some others. Overall it means a brighter, lower power display that is cheaper to make. My guess is that Sharp will provide a display with at least as good a quality as ips even if the name is different. Note that ips itself is a moving target with a number of variants having been developed over the years.
 
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