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No idea why this particular product made the news. Is this because of the name - "Pebble"? I live in China, and on Taobao (local platform that everyone uses for shopping) I've found multiple blatant ripoffs of both Watch Ultra and normal Watch 8. They are sold quite officially, regulators have no beef with them (normally a fake LV or Nikes would not be sold like that, out in the open). If anything, this "Pebble" thing looks like a dropshipped version of those generic ripoffs.
 
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They are sold quite officially, regulators have no beef with them (normally a fake LV or Nikes would not be sold like that, out in the open).
Are you joking? I've seen all matter of knockoffs on the street markets of every major city in Asia, Lol

Again, im curious as to why Macrumors is advertising and supporting this particular knockoff?
 
It all just made sense to me — a friend of mine has a Canal st. Rolex — same model as the real thing, for when she goes out at late hours. This can be used the same way!

I understand the logic but still doesn’t make sense for me. I use what I buy and don’t see a need to wear something to project an image. It’s like I typically carry $2k in cash (20 100’s) except when I go out late then I just carry 2 100’s wrapped around a wad of 18 $1’s. 😆

Again, I understand the logic works for some people and there’s nothing wrong with it.
 
I understand the logic but still doesn’t make sense for me. I use what I buy and don’t see a need to wear something to project an image. It’s like I typically carry $2k in cash (20 100’s) except when I go out late then I just carry 2 100’s wrapped around a wad of 18 $1’s. 😆

Again, I understand the logic works for some people and there’s nothing wrong with it.
I agree with you, I never went to Canal st. at least not for that :D

btw, I LOVE your user name)))
 
I'll buy one when they are available in the US. I got rid of my apple watch and iPhone because of the massive privacy risk in the Apple ecosystem. I can mitigate the privacy risk on an iMac so I still have that and I have my earpod pro in a faraday case when not in use.
 
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Indian brand Pebble plans to release a new smartwatch that looks like a blatant Apple Watch Ultra ripoff. The watch has virtually the exact same design as the Apple Watch Ultra and even looks like it will be available with a knockoff Ocean Band.

Pebble-Apple-Watch-Ultra.jpg

Priced at the equivalent of just $48, the Pebble Cosmos Engage is obviously made with lower-quality materials than the Apple Watch Ultra. For example, the watch is advertised as having an LCD display with up to 600 nits of brightness, while the Apple Watch Ultra has an OLED display with up to 2,000 nits of brightness. Unsurprisingly, the watch also doesn't run watchOS, but it does appear to offer knockoff Apple Watch faces and features like heart rate monitoring, voice assistance, and Bluetooth calling.

Pebble already sells a copycat version of the standard Apple Watch and other generic smartwatches. The brand does not appear to have any relation with the former smartwatch company Pebble, which was acquired by Fitbit in 2016.

The actual Apple Watch Ultra was released in September and is priced at $799.

Article Link: This Apple Watch Ultra Ripoff Will Cost Less Than $50
A youtube person did a story about this months ago.
 
If you want fitness and sleep tracking, it doesn't get better than Whoop. I hate their overpriced bands, and the subscription model sucks, but it's the best science out there and the band/device is smaller than most wearables. I almost got the Garmin Enduro 2, but it's huge and I can't sleep with a 50mm watch.
 
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Does make one wonder if this is a great place for Apple to be moving manufacturing too (along with that other communist run country south of China), what could possibly go wrong in environments like these over time?
India is not communist, it’s a corrupt capitalist democracy. You probably just mean anti-western which they are.
 
I know it comes no where near the quality of Apple but it's obviously Apple doesn't have much money in each Apple Watch.
What makes you say that?

Obviously the functionality and build quality is much lower with these clones, the whole systems architecture is different, and so is the development effort of the device. It actually costs to make a product look like it does, there is quite a lot of money spent on that by Apple.

I think it speaks for itself that the promotional images for this Pebble watch are not showing the actual product but the Apple Watch Ultra, which is also often the case with cheap knock-offs you can buy on AliExpress. The product images are looking just like the original (because it is the original ;) ) but the delivered product is worlds apart from the quality and even looks.
 
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Just so long as your MacBook Pro wasn't built before 2017 and the software you want to use is still available for that vintage of OS...

😏

Meanwhile, let's face it - unless your doctor recommends one to monitor your health, or you are doing some serious sports (remembering to not wear it while skiing lest it calls in 911 or a emergency tracking request via satellite), there are very few who actually need (versus 'want') a smartwatch.

I have one only because it was a gift when it was new (and at an Apple Watch Series 3, its like, sooooo obsolete).
I've tried to take advantage of / justify its 'features', and really, its just a spectacular piece of PT Barnum-worthy gimmickry that generates beer money for Apple. And when this device eventually packs it in (the OS already no longer update'able) in a little puff of smouldering battery smoke, that'll be it. No great loss.
Do I need my awatch? No. Find it extremely useful? Absolutely. I use the hell out of my s6… sounds like you dont have a use for smartwatches, and that’s fine, but dont assume they’re useless for everyone just because of that. You are not the sole embodiment of all consumers, people have different uses for devices than you.
 
I understand the logic but still doesn’t make sense for me. I use what I buy and don’t see a need to wear something to project an image. It’s like I typically carry $2k in cash (20 100’s) except when I go out late then I just carry 2 100’s wrapped around a wad of 18 $1’s. 😆

Again, I understand the logic works for some people and there’s nothing wrong with it.
I agree about the image, I wouldn't like to project an image of something I'm not or can't afford to be, but, like you understand the logic.

My question though is why carry so much cash? Please don't take this as a criticism, it's not, I'm just curious. I live in the UK and honestly, struggle to remember the last time that I carried any cash.
 
this shows more how apple is ripping us off, than how someone is ripping apple

dude, if this thing is on sale for $50, than manufacturing cost is $30.
apple manufacturing cost is not more than $150

selling for $700
 
Its no different e-waste than every other product Apple has ever produced and continues to produce. Do you even know how batteries are made, using Cobalt??
Not true. Apple products have a useful lifespan before they become e-waste. This watch is something that someone will buy and after less than a month will end up in a landfill or if we're lucky a recycling center.
 
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this shows more how apple is ripping us off, than how someone is ripping apple

dude, if this thing is on sale for $50, than manufacturing cost is $30.
apple manufacturing cost is not more than $150

selling for $700
A bit of an unfair comparison, don't you think?

Obviously the functionality and build quality is much lower with these clones, the whole systems architecture is different, and so is the development effort of the device. It actually costs to make a product look like it does, there is quite a lot of money spent on that by Apple.

I think it speaks for itself that the promotional images for this Pebble watch are not showing the actual product but the Apple Watch Ultra, which is also often the case with cheap knock-offs you can buy on AliExpress. The product images are looking just like the original (because it is the original ;) ) but the delivered product is worlds apart from the quality and even looks.

Then Apple is designing and producing a whole shopping experience with their stores where you can try on the watch and dozens of bands before you decide what you want, the very nice packaging, return policy, etc. This costs money and guess what, the customer is paying for this as well.

You are right, if a company is producing a similar or almost identical product and skips all development effort and additional cost (by pirating other's efforts, never mind), they can offer this product for way less than the original developer of the product. But it is very unfair to the original inventor/creator, so for this reason we have patent/copyright/trademark laws to protect intellectual property. That China and some other countries don't care and just violate other's rights, does in no way show "how apple is ripping us off".
 
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It all just made sense to me — a friend of mine has a Canal st. Rolex — same model as the real thing, for when she goes out at late hours. This can be used the same way!
If you (or your friend ;)) uses the Apple Watch to just have a watch on your wrist that looks expensive and tells the time, then yes, your argument makes sense.
However, I use many more features of my Apple Watch like health tracking, notifications from my phone, even taking calls when I have the phone stowed in a bag or pocket. This might or might not work with the cheap copy, at least it's a hassle to have two devices with differing functionality paired with your phone.
 
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