Perhaps today it could be enough. But when buying such a powerful laptop, one should consider putting more RAM to comply with future requirements. After all, such a laptop is expected to be fast and fully usable within 3-5 years at least.
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This forum is going crazy about the new MacBook Pro!
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Seems like you are applying your personal use cases to other people. That does usually not result in good advice.
You are assuming people have a fixed desk to put their desktop on.....well in my case for example I am on the road 100+ days a year so my use case is totally different as I do not always have a desk available!
If you want to give people advice it is always better to first ask them what their use cases would be! I would think a data scientist would understand that!
I freaking love this computer. It’s amazing.
I’m sure I’m wrong and someone will tell me.
I’m sure I’m wrong and someone will tell me.
Isn't it what everyone else is doing here, and literally what you've just done? We can only share information based on our own experiences. All the rest would be based on unfounded assumptions, unless you're in the field of selling computers.
Nowadays there's too much anger on forums and on the internet in general, which makes this conversation absolutely irrelevant.
The point here is that there's a Pro computer which some find too expensive. If you don't need all that power, a simple Macbook or even a Macbook Air should be more than enough, which means that it makes no sense to complain. Imagine that we all now start complaining that the maxed Mac Pro is too expensive. It's just stupid to do so, because it's not geared to the average Joe. And when your job demands a powerful computer, then you are likely to be able to afford one.
It is not what I have just done. I gave no advice whatsoever. I just stated my use case as an example how use cases can differ.
And yes I agree that if these pro computers are too expensive for people then they are probably not in the group these machines were targeted to. For some it is an expense, for others a write-off justified by higher efficiency.
I am in retail selling computers. The vast majority of buyers do not need anything approaching the new MBP 14 or 16’s capability. Even the current M1 Pro 13 and Air are more than most need. The percentage of buyers who apparently do need these high capabilities is indeed a small percentage. And the few inquiring about such a computer usually appear able to afford one.
True. And usually those needing these machines will walk in and tell the salesperson what they want, collect, pay and walk out. They know what they want and what they want it for!
^^ Exactly.
Most common things I hear right off or very early in the conversation:
- My computer just died or it‘s gotten really slow, and it’s 5-10 years old.
- Son or daughter or they themselves needs a computer for school, college or university.
- I’m starting a new job or small business.
- I don’t need all the bells and whistles.
- I’m not technie. I just need it for browsing, email, online shopping, banking, Facebook and watching Youtube.
Thats easily 90+ percent of the customers walking in. I make a point of asking the business, college or university related inquiries if there will be any photo/video editing required (usually there aren’t). There are some who tell me right off they will be using Autocad like programs. I use Photoshop and do some 3D modelling as a hobby so that gives me some insight into what they might need or be looking for.
Current laptops with Intel i3, i5 or AMD Ryzen 3 or 5 along with 256 or 512 SSD are usually enough for the vast majority of customers. An M1 MacBook Air or 13 Pro has more power and capability than most of them will need or use, but they’ll certainly appreciate it if they’re looking in that price bracket. Few inquire about the 16in. MacBook.
Off the top of my head it seems HP outsells other brands with Lenovo, Acer and Asus about even split. We don’t sell Dell machines. MacBooks, particularly MacBook Air far, far outsells Microsoft Surface. The Surface looks to be a very niche product.
Presently I don’t think many will be stepping up to the new MacBook Pro 14 and even fewer to the 16 unless the price drops sometime down the road.
Most common things I hear right off or very early in the conversation:
- My computer just died or it‘s gotten really slow, and it’s 5-10 years old.
- Son or daughter or they themselves needs a computer for school, college or university.
- I’m starting a new job or small business.
- I don’t need all the bells and whistles.
- I’m not technie. I just need it for browsing, email, online shopping, banking, Facebook and watching Youtube.
Thats easily 90+ percent of the customers walking in. I make a point of asking the business, college or university related inquiries if there will be any photo/video editing required (usually there aren’t). There are some who tell me right off they will be using Autocad like programs. I use Photoshop and do some 3D modelling as a hobby so that gives me some insight into what they might need or be looking for.
Current laptops with Intel i3, i5 or AMD Ryzen 3 or 5 along with 256 or 512 SSD are usually enough for the vast majority of customers. An M1 MacBook Air or 13 Pro has more power and capability than most of them will need or use, but they’ll certainly appreciate it if they’re looking in that price bracket. Few inquire about the 16in. MacBook.
Off the top of my head it seems HP outsells other brands with Lenovo, Acer and Asus about even split. We don’t sell Dell machines. MacBooks, particularly MacBook Air far, far outsells Microsoft Surface. The Surface looks to be a very niche product.
Presently I don’t think many will be stepping up to the new MacBook Pro 14 and even fewer to the 16 unless the price drops sometime down the road.
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This is true in the environment you work in. Professionals tend to order what they need online or from highly specialised stores. And if you look at the current delivery delays for the 14" and 16" models then there is a huge demand. But as you said, the people buying these machines are not the demographic you are seeing where you work.
I think so. People that know what they need may be more willing to order online. If someone wants a MacBook Pro, that is very specific, then he is not visiting a store and coming out with a Chromebook. Better saving time and buying it online.