You guys are crazy. If someone came up to you and GAVE you $300 dollars, how would that be stealing?
The employee didn't give him that gift card. That employee made a mistake in how to use the gift card ending in the money not being used towards the iphone. That's not a gift. That's a mistake. The money was mistakenly credited on the gift card so it is not his.
Less fraudulent, my boss also received a free iPhone 4. He sent his 3GS in for a faulty battery repair and he was sent an iPhone 4 back in return. When he called to notify them of the mixup they asked for the serial number on the SIM tray and he was told that it was an iPhone 3GS he had received. After arguing for a bit about what the phone really was, he finally just said that he was satisfied with his 3GS and would keep it.
This was definitely justified on your Boss's part. If they are going to argue when you try to be honest, I know I would no longer feel guilty keeping it. Obviously they are insisting I do.
as much as you sound like an honest person, it's hardly like stealing off a pauper is it?
apple is a multi billion dollar organization, I would take it too.
Cause, you know, it's perfectly ok to steal from big organizations. I'm surprised with that attitude you pay for anything. You should be able to just go pick things off the shelf and take them home long as you shop at the major franchises. It's not stealing if it is a big corporation.
Oh, and you are harming people. Cause those big corporations will reflect the money they lose to thieves and whatnot in the prices they charge for their products. So people who steal from them affect everyone else who buys that company's product.
He didn't steal the phone, apple got his money, thats how there was a balance on the card, apple recieved money and put a credit on the card representing how much he paid. What he could be stealing is all future items being purchased with the balance on te gift card.
Technically true.
Again - twist it however you want. You're wrong. It's not even open for debate.
Yes it is. We're debating it right now, aren't we?
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He is only stealing if he obtained the item outside of legal transaction, and it isn't stealing if an employee screws the transaction up. If a customer walks out the store having paid for item X - which the OP did, albeit onto a gift card - the customer has done their part, and the law is on their side. Apple could either cancel the gift card, or bill him - the latter an illegal action, which they would back down if the OP threatened to bring the police into the matter. The store employee is responsible, not the customer.
Jeez, know your consumer rights guys. You must get ripped off buying an ice-cream. It pays to be shop-savvy, and yes he could call up to note the mistake, but that's a matter of ethics, not legality.😉
The only reasonable arguement for it not being stealing I've seen. I still say ethically it's stealing though.
I think this is a similar arguement to if you find something and don't try to return it to its owner (Except the law is on the side of people who feel it should be returned, or at least a serious attempt at returning it).
If it was caught which I can almost guarantee it was the employee was probably fired or had to pay for the mistake. Their drawer would have showed up as $367 short and that's pretty hard to explain.
I'm pretty sure most to all states it is illegal to make your employee pay for a product lost/money lost (I know, it makes sense to do so, but I think because that is too easily exploitable by crappy employers, they just made it illegal). But... it would at least put a mark on the employee's record that could easily get him fired (a lot of big retail chains will insist on stuff like three write ups or something before firing just to cover their butts in case the employee tries to sue. That way they can have a paper trail showing that he was rightfully fired. I'm betting Apple has something like this so not sure the employee would get fired right away. He may be cause there are still some offenses even these companies will fire for instantly).
