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It’s silly to compare these subtle magenta tints with the lurid green that the other displays show slightly off-axis. Classic false equivalence.

No-one expects their iPhone display to look like a reference monitor for colour grading. But by their nature, phones are often viewed off-axis, and they should maintain reasonable function in that case … you know, like all of them did for years with IPS LCD displays, and like my 13 mini does, and like some of the new iPhones still do.
 
It’s silly to compare these subtle magenta tints with the lurid green that the other displays show slightly off-axis. Classic false equivalence.

No-one expects their iPhone display to look like a reference monitor for colour grading. But by their nature, phones are often viewed off-axis, and they should maintain reasonable function in that case … you know, like all of them did for years with IPS LCD displays, and like my 13 mini does, and like some of the new iPhones still do.
I disagree, a subtle magenta tint may be more unpleasant for some users than the “lurid green” that you mention.

It isn’t “silly” as you put it, it is something that bothers some people.
 
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I see we’re still playing the game where Samsung panels are supposedly “the best” in that parallel reality some people have created for reasons no one quite understands.

It’s not that the pink or magenta tint bothers some users, as if it were just a matter of subjective preference on an otherwise superior panel. The point is that the fact these panels suffer from that tint, often not across the entire screen but only in certain areas, making the display uneven in normal use, is a flaw (or, in that parallel reality, a so-called “inherent quality feature”).

Saying that “some people are bothered by it” is incredibly condescending, as if they simply lacked the ability to appreciate it and their personal quirks were the reason they consider it inferior to panels that are perfectly uniform when viewed head-on. That’s not the case.

As I said in another message, this whole phenomenon deserves to be studied by psychologists, sociologists, or whoever’s up for it.
 
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A few days ago, I showed an Apple Store employee a very noticeable green tint on the store display unit of the 17 Pro Max.

His reaction was like: “Huh, I did not notice that before.”

Then he proceeded to take photos of the issue and write down the serial number of the particular device.
 
A few days ago, I showed an Apple Store employee a very noticeable green tint on the store display unit of the 17 Pro Max.

His reaction was like: “Huh, I did not notice that before.”

Then he proceeded to take photos of the issue and write down the serial number of the particular device.

he's queuing up creating a post in this thread :p
 
I've kept reading up on this thread and the more I do, the more I'm thankful that I got an Air with a perfect Samsung G9Q display, never letting this baby go, at least until next year.

And the screen lottery next year for the Fold will be a whole new level.

Imagine having a GVC screen on the front of the foldable and a Samsung in the wide open display or vice versa, etc. The mishmash that could happen would be the peak of screen lotteries lol
 
I've kept reading up on this thread and the more I do, the more I'm thankful that I got an Air with a perfect Samsung G9Q display, never letting this baby go, at least until next year.

And the screen lottery next year for the Fold will be a whole new level.

Imagine having a GVC screen on the front of the foldable and a Samsung in the wide open display or vice versa, etc. The mishmash that could happen would be the peak of screen lotteries lol
Imagine having double pink tint and double lack of uniformity!
 
I see we’re still playing the game where Samsung panels are supposedly “the best” in that parallel reality some people have created for reasons no one quite understands.

It’s not that the pink or magenta tint bothers some users, as if it were just a matter of subjective preference on an otherwise superior panel. The point is that the fact these panels suffer from that tint, often not across the entire screen but only in certain areas, making the display uneven in normal use, is a flaw (or, in that parallel reality, a so-called “inherent quality feature”).

Saying that “some people are bothered by it” is incredibly condescending, as if they simply lacked the ability to appreciate it and their personal quirks were the reason they consider it inferior to panels that are perfectly uniform when viewed head-on. That’s not the case.

As I said in another message, this whole phenomenon deserves to be studied by psychologists, sociologists, or whoever’s up for it.
Justice for LG amirite?
 
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I did some research on OLED panel manufacturing over the weekend, and there are some interesting differences between how Samsung Display and LG Display build their iPhone panels. The TL;DR is that:

All iPhone OLEDs are cut from large mother glass sheets (typically Gen 6, about 1.5 × 1.85 m) on which dozens of panels are deposited at once. Slight temperature and deposition-rate differences across that sheet make center-cut panels slightly more uniform than edge-cut ones (see Jeon et al., J. SID 24 (8), 2016). Apple doesn’t “bin” screens by supplier or storage tier — every panel that meets its ΔE < 2 white-point spec is calibrated and installed on the same production line (DisplayMate, 2023 iPhone 14 Pro Report).

Samsung and LG both use RGBG (Pentile) OLED structures, but their optical stack tuning differs. Samsung’s M-series panels employ a narrow, tightly tuned microcavity and a multi-layer birefringence compensation stack (Lee et al., SID 2019) that slightly over-corrects red + blue to suppress the usual green-cyan shift, which can make whites take on a faint pinkish hue at wide angles. LG’s C-series panels use a broader resonance cavity and thinner compensation films (WO 2019/200935 A1, LG Display) that favor higher luminance and warmer on-axis whites but allow a mild green/cyan shift off-axis as red light falls off faster.

Both designs are trade-offs, not quality tiers. Apple calibrates every panel’s white balance, gamma, and uniformity in firmware and adds True Tone compensation on top, so day-to-day color differences are within measurement noise. The remaining variance — cooler vs. warmer whites, slight pink or green tint at an angle — comes from variations in manufacturing physics and the fact that the human eye is most sensitive to green luminance (Fairchild & Wyble, Color Res. Appl., 2010). Every iPhone display is meant to be built to the same standard, but each carries its own microscopic optical “fingerprint” — the panel lottery is real, just not a matter of better or worse.

I have pages and pages of notes on this, if y'all want to take a deeper dive, just let me know.
 
I did some research on OLED panel manufacturing over the weekend, and there are some interesting differences between how Samsung Display and LG Display build their iPhone panels. The TL;DR is that:

All iPhone OLEDs are cut from large mother glass sheets (typically Gen 6, about 1.5 × 1.85 m) on which dozens of panels are deposited at once. Slight temperature and deposition-rate differences across that sheet make center-cut panels slightly more uniform than edge-cut ones (see Jeon et al., J. SID 24 (8), 2016). Apple doesn’t “bin” screens by supplier or storage tier — every panel that meets its ΔE < 2 white-point spec is calibrated and installed on the same production line (DisplayMate, 2023 iPhone 14 Pro Report).

Samsung and LG both use RGBG (Pentile) OLED structures, but their optical stack tuning differs. Samsung’s M-series panels employ a narrow, tightly tuned microcavity and a multi-layer birefringence compensation stack (Lee et al., SID 2019) that slightly over-corrects red + blue to suppress the usual green-cyan shift, which can make whites take on a faint pinkish hue at wide angles. LG’s C-series panels use a broader resonance cavity and thinner compensation films (WO 2019/200935 A1, LG Display) that favor higher luminance and warmer on-axis whites but allow a mild green/cyan shift off-axis as red light falls off faster.

Both designs are trade-offs, not quality tiers. Apple calibrates every panel’s white balance, gamma, and uniformity in firmware and adds True Tone compensation on top, so day-to-day color differences are within measurement noise. The remaining variance — cooler vs. warmer whites, slight pink or green tint at an angle — comes from variations in manufacturing physics and the fact that the human eye is most sensitive to green luminance (Fairchild & Wyble, Color Res. Appl., 2010). Every iPhone display is meant to be built to the same standard, but each carries its own microscopic optical “fingerprint” — the panel lottery is real, just not a matter of better or worse.

I have pages and pages of notes on this, if y'all want to take a deeper dive, just let me know.
So, LG designs its panels to look their best when viewed head-on, while Samsung optimizes theirs to look good off-axis, but at the cost of some quality when viewed straight on. That makes sense and matches exactly what can be inferred from all the opinions shared in this thread.

Common sense would suggest that LG’s approach is the right one — but everyone should choose whatever they personally prefer.

Hopefully, this makes it clear once and for all that it’s not about “better” or “worse,” but simply “different.”

Although I fear nothing will change. I’ll just add this, which perfectly describes Samsung fanboys:

Confirmation bias is a psychological tendency that makes people favor information that confirms their existing beliefs or opinions while ignoring or dismissing evidence that contradicts them.
 
I've kept reading up on this thread and the more I do, the more I'm thankful that I got an Air with a perfect Samsung G9Q display, never letting this baby go, at least until next year.

And the screen lottery next year for the Fold will be a whole new level.

Imagine having a GVC screen on the front of the foldable and a Samsung in the wide open display or vice versa, etc. The mishmash that could happen would be the peak of screen lotteries lol
That would be awful. My Fold 7 is flawless, no hint of pink on the outer or inner screens and both are perfectly uniform. Has to be some degree of binning on this device considering the nature of it I'd think. One can only hope Apple does the same for its Fold. I never thought about this possibility until reading your comment, so thanks for that 🤣 .
 
I did some research on OLED panel manufacturing over the weekend, and there are some interesting differences between how Samsung Display and LG Display build their iPhone panels. The TL;DR is that:

All iPhone OLEDs are cut from large mother glass sheets (typically Gen 6, about 1.5 × 1.85 m) on which dozens of panels are deposited at once. Slight temperature and deposition-rate differences across that sheet make center-cut panels slightly more uniform than edge-cut ones (see Jeon et al., J. SID 24 (8), 2016). Apple doesn’t “bin” screens by supplier or storage tier — every panel that meets its ΔE < 2 white-point spec is calibrated and installed on the same production line (DisplayMate, 2023 iPhone 14 Pro Report).

Samsung and LG both use RGBG (Pentile) OLED structures, but their optical stack tuning differs. Samsung’s M-series panels employ a narrow, tightly tuned microcavity and a multi-layer birefringence compensation stack (Lee et al., SID 2019) that slightly over-corrects red + blue to suppress the usual green-cyan shift, which can make whites take on a faint pinkish hue at wide angles. LG’s C-series panels use a broader resonance cavity and thinner compensation films (WO 2019/200935 A1, LG Display) that favor higher luminance and warmer on-axis whites but allow a mild green/cyan shift off-axis as red light falls off faster.

Both designs are trade-offs, not quality tiers. Apple calibrates every panel’s white balance, gamma, and uniformity in firmware and adds True Tone compensation on top, so day-to-day color differences are within measurement noise. The remaining variance — cooler vs. warmer whites, slight pink or green tint at an angle — comes from variations in manufacturing physics and the fact that the human eye is most sensitive to green luminance (Fairchild & Wyble, Color Res. Appl., 2010). Every iPhone display is meant to be built to the same standard, but each carries its own microscopic optical “fingerprint” — the panel lottery is real, just not a matter of better or worse.

I have pages and pages of notes on this, if y'all want to take a deeper dive, just let me know.
Thank you for this post. I’d personally love to know more from your notes.
 
first unit had perfect screen, but bad camera

second unit has good camera, but bad screen.... when using night shift, the whole top area turns red/pink . so annoying. should I return it ?

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I’ve got the same slight pink hue in the same area. Funny enough, this is already a replacement — my first one had a green tint at the bottom. Honestly, I’m about ready to give up.
yeah I'm tempted to keep it. who knows what issues the next one will have. it could even be an LG , or have green tint. pick your poison. i still have a few more days to exchange but im afraid apple might flag me ...
 
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