I was referring to on-line purchases and returns with no physical store involved.
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Other This years screen lottery (17, 17 pro, 17 pro max and air)
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Keep your 13 mini ! (Or get new clothes with larger pockets).
So are you more likely to get a bad screen if you buy a base 17 model this year, than the other models?
base 17 and Pro Max likely GVC.
GH3 from reports, is better than GVC in softer green tint
So the normal Pro and Air have the best screens. Is this situation likely to improve QA wise once the initial rush for new iPhones subsidies I wonder.
unlikely, it is just apple chose the suppliers, it seems LG got the bulk of the 6.9" order
I am on my third and final 17 Pro Max (exchanges were due to storage and color preferences, none for the screen type as I am happy with GVC) and all 3 PMs that I have had came with GVC.
Out of curiosity I checked some demo PMs at the store on each visit, all of the ones I’ve checked were GVC. The ones that I did not check (by sys log) were I am sure also GVC by how the screen looked. I can comfortably say all PMs at the store were all GVCs.
This happened during the last 2 weeks at 2 different stores in Charlotte, NC area. Just wanted to report if anyone is interested in the area.
Out of curiosity I checked some demo PMs at the store on each visit, all of the ones I’ve checked were GVC. The ones that I did not check (by sys log) were I am sure also GVC by how the screen looked. I can comfortably say all PMs at the store were all GVCs.
This happened during the last 2 weeks at 2 different stores in Charlotte, NC area. Just wanted to report if anyone is interested in the area.
You guys have an unhealthy obsession with claiming that the “bad” panels are always the LG ones. Even after 40 pages full of Samsung panel owners reporting poor uniformity and pink tint —even when viewed straight on— you still won’t change a bit.
Personal preference is one thing, but sticking stubbornly to the same claim despite clear empirical evidence showing otherwise is another. There’s no such thing as “good” or “bad” panels — every manufacturer has its own inherent issues.
I just hope that, when it comes to things in life that actually matter more than a phone display, you’re able to be more objective and take new data into account. Stubbornness isn’t a great guide in real life.
Personal preference is one thing, but sticking stubbornly to the same claim despite clear empirical evidence showing otherwise is another. There’s no such thing as “good” or “bad” panels — every manufacturer has its own inherent issues.
I just hope that, when it comes to things in life that actually matter more than a phone display, you’re able to be more objective and take new data into account. Stubbornness isn’t a great guide in real life.
But we're seeing that some, perhaps a minority, of the Samsung displays have poor uniformity; while the majority of LG screens have the green tint. So it holds true that with respect to the green tint, the bad ones are essentially always LG.
First, whether it’s a minority is yet to be seen. Or, rather, it’s what some people want to see, even when the evidence proves otherwise.
Second—and this is already entering the subjective, though experience-based—evaluating the quality of a panel solely by how it performs off-axis, rather than how it looks and how uniform it is, and by the color tint it exhibes when viewed straight on, challenges everything that has been done for years in assessing OLED panel quality.
But it seems to be the trend, just as following the crowd is. Herd mentality taken to its ultimate conclusion. Worth studying.
Here is my Samsung screen G9Q from my base iPhone 17 mist blue. It's not perfect but since I got the phone "free" from T-Mobile I'm not complaining
i see the samsung red-rainbow bottom straight on.
Was there a screen lottery with the iphone 16 and iphone 15 as well? My 15 pro is a GVC and doesn't have a green tint when I compared it to the base 17 and air at the apple store.
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Yes. My launch day iPhone 16 had a really bad display (bad colour tint at the slightest tilt). The replacement iPhone 16 had a perfect display.
My iPhone 17, delivered on 7th Oct, has a good screen. My gut feeling is that you are more likely to get a bad screen with a launch day iPhone, but who knows.
I wonder why the Air seems to have consistently better displays AND the faster storage (256GB variant)...
Thanks for chiming in.
Yeah, that’s the confusing thing. My 13 mini is also a GVC panel. No hint of off-axis green – no significant false colour at all, just a minor loss of saturation – and less brightness fall-off away from the perpendicular than ALL the new iPhones I compared it to.
Clearly it uses a different display tech to the new iPhones with GVC panels, so what does GVC even mean?
There is a screen lottery every year, there was with older iPhones with LCD screens and backlight bleed.
OLED has its own set of issues that also crop up every year Apple has used them, some people think it has something to do with serial numbers, colour, direction of the wind that day etc, but in truth it’s very simple…….its where it’s cut from the wafer! Google photolithography and it will explain the limitations of the technology and the likelihood of getting a “perfect” screen.
Just thought I’d chime in.
That’s exactly how the four G9N/G9Q looked like when I was at the Apple Store.
That's because the pink tint is a symptom of the pixel arrangement in Samsung panels, rather than just the panels being cheap and having terrible viewing angles.
I see. So, a panel that has a pink tint when viewed head-on and isn’t uniform (as a result of that) is considered a “premium” panel, but another one that’s much more uniform but shows color shift only when tilted, is considered a cheap panel.