Other This years screen lottery (17, 17 pro, 17 pro max and air)

[gvcg9n]

If it's not too much trouble, please show me your settings.



Has anyone already tried writing to Apple support regarding this screen issue?

Ok I tried it. I have an GVC with green tint when tilted any angle. I tried that color filter, took out the green with the slider which pushed more the blue and red color channels. First I thought wow, the greenish tint is gone nearly completely. Exciting. But when you do some more tests whether it is still an color accurate display e.g. taking a photo of a white paper sheet then the picture of that white paper had a red tint. So it is clearly unfortunately no more calibrated. 😥

No you are doing too many changes

There is only 1 change needed in color filter. Color tint. Leave the other 4 to their default to avoid blowing out

Put color tint Intensity to zero, all the way left.
Then tune the Hue, slide right to as much as until you see less greenish.

It wont solve tilting green entirely, but it improves color accuracy viewing head on and smoother the green tilt

 

[Jutah]

No you are doing too many changes

There is only 1 change needed in color filter. Color tint. Leave the other 4 to their default to avoid blowing out

Put color tint Intensity to zero, all the way left.
Then tune the Hue, slide right to as much as until you see less greenish.

It wont solve tilting green entirely, but it improves color accuracy viewing head on and smoother the green tilt

IMHO, color filters could improve the tint but the trade off is a screen that became “off”, less vibrant.

 

[gvcg9n]

IMHO, color filters could improve the tint but the trade off is a screen that became “off”, less vibrant.

Yes i have always stay away from digital color vibrancy

But changing the hue levels seem to not harm the purity here.

It just adjust the out of factory variances. As like how Samsung defaults to more reddish output to combat green tint

You can do almost the similar with hue adjustment, just need more users to try and feedback

 

[Faerlina]

I'm so glad these folding devices don't appeal to me at all! I don't like them. The first device of this kind from Apple next year will be a complete disaster, with many teething problems; I can already see it coming.

 

[Frieg]

I guess for some it might help to get a bit more background info why the color shift problem is inherently given for OLED and what tradeoffs have to be made to mitigate it.

https://opg.optica.org/oe/fulltext.cfm?uri=oe-25-26-33629

It's pretty old, from 2017, but pretty interesting imho if you are a bit tech savvy
in conclusion, you only have the perfect interference that results in white when looked at straight on. at any angle you get a interference shift which results in one color becoming more prominent, blue, red or green.
there are ways to mitigate this, but as the paper tells they always come with an intrinsic trade-off between efficiency, color gamut, and color shift.
so one thing would be interesting, has anyone compared iPhone displays that showed strong and weak color shift in terms of gamut coverage at a 0° angle?
what I don't know is, if any of the proposed optimizations in the paper are now used by display manufacturers.

 

[Regina del Mare]

Hello!
I had a G9Q display on my iPhone 17 that had some green tint. Besides, the back glass of the phone was slightly misaligned and it bothered me pretty much, especially because I have another 17 with perfect alignment.
So I returned it and bought a new one. The new one has a G9P panel and it’s perfect to me! Almost no visible green tint when tilted! Also, the back glass is perfectly aligned. I feel really lucky! 😁

 

[Ccl]

Hey!

After reading almost all pages(ouch), it seems that there are good and bad panels for each manufacturer.

I’ve been using my iPhone 13-base for the last 4 years and, to me, it has the perfect screen (G9Q). Perfect colors, no green tint when tilting it, great resolution…

I recently bought iPhone 17 base. It had G9P panel and it was awful. Extremely pink tint in every angle, low resolution, it gave me headaches and tired eyes, so I sold it.
Bought my second iPhone 17 yesterday (GVC) and it’s almost perfect if I don’t tilt it. If I tilt it, even if only 20º… guess what? Yes, green tint. Not sure if it’s the worst green tint or not. Do you think I should return it?

I’m seriously thinking about keeping my iPhone 13. I’m so f tired of panel lottery.

** Sorry for the quality. Photos taken with iPhone 11

UPDATE:

So.. now I have 2 iPhone 17 base, both GVC panels. It’s incredible how different screens are, even coming from the same manufacturer.

I have to choose between them 2. One has bad green tint but better resolution (no assistive touch), the other one has pink tint and bit worse resolution(assistive touch). Which one would you choose based on your experience?

** Bonus track: both compared to my iPhone 13 which has the best screen ever to my eyes. Whitetest white and no tints when tilting.

PS: Thank you all. I have never felt so understood in my life.

PS2: sorry for the photo dump. I’m very indecisive. Hope this helps other people too.

 

[AndyMile]

Hello everyone, here are my two cents.


Last year, I had to return 6 iPhone 16 Pro or Pro Max devices, and this year already 5 iPhone 17 Pro or Pro Max devices, all due to bad displays regarding color quality. This year, I kept one iPhone 17 Pro and one iPhone 17 Pro Max, with G9P and G9N displays, respectively.

Additionally, I have checked numerous displays in the Apple Store and also from friends’ iPhones.

My conclusion: Regardless of the fundamental properties of OLED displays (such as color shift when turning), the quality of individual displays was extremely varied in terms of warmth, color cast, uniformity, and brightness. I know we’re talking about millions of displays here and there have to be some deviations, but I am always puzzled at how large these are and that Apple QC allows this.

What I have observed is the following:

• Poor uniformity: color gradient from yellowish at the top to a reddish tint at the bottom, or vice versa
• Great differences in max brightness when auto brightness is turned off
• Completely different behavior when you turn on True Tone
• When you change the viewing angle, some displays shift to blue, others remain constant
• Wide range in white point, estimated from 6700 K to 6200 K
• The only thing I haven’t seen yet is the green tint that is often mentioned here

All in all, I’m tired of this annual lottery and have therefore kept two iPhones with displays that are OK but far from perfect. That’s how far Apple has pushed me.

 

[AndyMile]

UPDATE:

So.. now I have 2 iPhone 17 base, both GVC panels. It’s incredible how different screens are, even coming from the same manufacturer.

I have to choose between them 2. One has bad green tint but better resolution (no assistive touch), the other one has pink tint and bit worse resolution(assistive touch). Which one would you choose based on your experience?

** Bonus track: both compared to my iPhone 13 which has the best screen ever to my eyes. Whitetest white and no tints when tilting.

PS: Thank you all. I have never felt so understood in my life.

PS2: sorry for the photo dump. I’m very indecisive. Hope this helps other people too.

For me the right one is really bad, because it has this ugly gradient from yellow at the bottom to a reddish tint at the top. The left one is warmer but it seems to be more uniform.

 

[Faerlina]

UPDATE:

So.. now I have 2 iPhone 17 base, both GVC panels. It’s incredible how different screens are, even coming from the same manufacturer.

I have to choose between them 2. One has bad green tint but better resolution (no assistive touch), the other one has pink tint and bit worse resolution(assistive touch). Which one would you choose based on your experience?

** Bonus track: both compared to my iPhone 13 which has the best screen ever to my eyes. Whitetest white and no tints when tilting.

PS: Thank you all. I have never felt so understood in my life.

PS2: sorry for the photo dump. I’m very indecisive. Hope this helps other people too.

I find the iPhone with the red tint really awful. I've noticed that I still find such a red tint bothersome even after weeks (I once had an iPad with a red tint for a while). The other device looks okay at first glance. Warmer and more uniform.

 

[Gothamjoker]

UPDATE:

So.. now I have 2 iPhone 17 base, both GVC panels. It’s incredible how different screens are, even coming from the same manufacturer.

I have to choose between them 2. One has bad green tint but better resolution (no assistive touch), the other one has pink tint and bit worse resolution(assistive touch). Which one would you choose based on your experience?

** Bonus track: both compared to my iPhone 13 which has the best screen ever to my eyes. Whitetest white and no tints when tilting.

PS: Thank you all. I have never felt so understood in my life.

PS2: sorry for the photo dump. I’m very indecisive. Hope this helps other people too.

13 it’s not perfect either, mine looks the same, but never realized it has a pinkish tone until I got this 17 pro. Yes, screen on the 13 pro is whiter, but if you look closer that white is pinkish compared with the 17 pro from picture 7/13. No screen is perfect at this point, we have to choose the one we like, that’s all.
Between the 2 iPhones you posted I prefer the left one, the right one is red. Also, do you have True Tone on?

 

[Ccl]

13 it’s not perfect either, mine looks the same, but never realized it has a pinkish tone until I got this 17 pro. Yes, screen on the 13 pro is whiter, but if you look closer that white is pinkish compared with the 17 pro from picture 7/13. No screen is perfect at this point, we have to choose the one we like, that’s all.
Between the 2 iPhones you posted I prefer the left one, the right one is red. Also, do you have True Tone on?

No True Tone, no Night Shift.

 

[gvcg9n]

UPDATE:

So.. now I have 2 iPhone 17 base, both GVC panels. It’s incredible how different screens are, even coming from the same manufacturer.

I have to choose between them 2. One has bad green tint but better resolution (no assistive touch), the other one has pink tint and bit worse resolution(assistive touch). Which one would you choose based on your experience?

** Bonus track: both compared to my iPhone 13 which has the best screen ever to my eyes. Whitetest white and no tints when tilting.

PS: Thank you all. I have never felt so understood in my life.

PS2: sorry for the photo dump. I’m very indecisive. Hope this helps other people too.

Hey can you try the above assessbility -> color filter -> color tint -> start with intensity to zero (all the way left)

then adjust the hue slider. For your green tint panel, move the slider to the right until it looks good to you.

For pink tint panel, move the hue slider to the left, until you like it.

 

[Harthag]

UPDATE:

So.. now I have 2 iPhone 17 base, both GVC panels. It’s incredible how different screens are, even coming from the same manufacturer.

I have to choose between them 2. One has bad green tint but better resolution (no assistive touch), the other one has pink tint and bit worse resolution(assistive touch). Which one would you choose based on your experience?

** Bonus track: both compared to my iPhone 13 which has the best screen ever to my eyes. Whitetest white and no tints when tilting.

PS: Thank you all. I have never felt so understood in my life.

PS2: sorry for the photo dump. I’m very indecisive. Hope this helps other people too.

I'd keep the one that has the greener tint. I think it's much better than the pink tinted one.

 

[Fred Zed]

I’m not sure, but I had a similar experience with my iPad Pro. The 4 units manufactured in August had noticeable uniformity issues. I waited a couple of months and picked up another one from the September batch, and the screen was much better. Could’ve been a coincidence, but that was my experience.

That’s just called the “lottery”. 🤣

 

[fel10]

That’s just called the “lottery”. 🤣

Kay

 

[CrazyFrog1]

How do you see this screen? At the bottom it has a red tone but I think it's because of the tempered glass (Rainbow effect).

 

[thadoggfather]

How do you see this screen? At the bottom it has a red tone but I think it's because of the tempered glass (Rainbow effect).

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As good a time as ever for a general PSA:
turn off True Tone (and for the love of Steve Jobs, Night Shift) before posting pics/videos.

The slightest uniformity issue can result in crazy uniformity issues with it on, and all panels react differently to TT / as well as the ambient light environment they're in (the latter is the intended purpose of 'True' tone). That in and of itself is a separate lottery which you can also be worried about or annoyed by, but by far the bigger hurdle/annoyance is what it looks like on its own.

 

[CrazyFrog1]

As good a time as ever for a general PSA:
turn off True Tone (and for the love of Steve Jobs, Night Shift) before posting pics/videos.

The slightest uniformity issue can result in crazy uniformity issues with it on, and all panels react differently to TT / as well as the ambient light environment they're in (the latter is the intended purpose of 'True' tone). That in and of itself is a separate lottery which you can also be worried about or annoyed by, but by far the bigger hurdle/annoyance is what it looks like on its own.

Sorry!
Night shift is off, True Tone on.
I always have True Tone on. Do you recommend turning it off? Or is it only for testing?

 

[Faerlina]

And remove the screen protector! This further distorts the results (darker, rainbow effect...).

 

[conmee]

Two iPhone 17 Pros both with G9Qs and both look great. No weird color shifting or variable hues. Uniform color at different viewing angles. Without True Tone, both tend to the cool/blue look. With TT they are warmer. Thankfully, I haven't needed to return an iPhone for display/color issues since iPhone 4S/5/5S days.

 

[super chimp]

I was planning to upgrade from my 13 Pro, but threads like this and iOS 26, I’m still on iOS 18.7.2, has really made me hesitate over upgrading. The last thing I wont to do is engage in some kind of merry go round of exchanging 17 Pros.

 

[CrazyFrog1]

And remove the screen protector! This further distorts the results (darker, rainbow effect...).

Tomorrow i’ll remove the tempered glass, which One do you recommend? I use spigen glass but it has a lot of rainbow effect.
Thanx!

 

[Faerlina]

Tomorrow i’ll remove the tempered glass, which One do you recommend? I use spigen glass but it has a lot of rainbow effect.
Thanx!

First, I had a ridiculously overpriced privacy screen protector from Vionentus:
(https://vionentus.com/products/iphone-17-series-privacy-screen-protector):
Face ID barely worked with it, so it was worthless to me and went straight in the trash. 😡
After that, I had a clear screen protector from Torras (also not cheap): It was actually good, but the bottom third was already scratched. 🤬
Now I'm using a privacy screen protector from ESR and I'm extremely happy with it (it was a tip from a friend). 😅

 

[fairbit]

I also have G9P on iPhone 17 PRO. Screen is OK, in comparison with my older iPhone 13 PRO and another iPhone 17 (which is a bit more blueish than my iPhone 17 PRO)