Yet another iOS vs Android, Android bashing thread by the OP does he create any other type of threads?
When compared to Samsungs, it makes no sense to call iPhones "overpriced" when the corresponding Sammies cost the same or even more. At least I am ready to pay for the clean, simple and sophisticated look and experience of iOS, opposed to the bloatware-ridden TouchWiz shitbiscuit.
ios may look simple to use but it is also very complicated when doing something and sharing.
Yet another iOS vs Android, Android bashing thread by the OP does he create any other type of threads?
not going to write an article about "these things are difficult to do with ios". everyone who has ios already knows that some things are difficult to do with ios.. not going to start a list.
I give it a good spoiling, but yet use the hell out of it on daily basis.
I use it to text message all the time, I make videos and send them in text to friends, occasionally need to make a phone call or receive a phone call lol.
I use it as an alarm clock, I take photos I need to save like my work schedule, reminders in notes, calender, calculator comes in handy, navigation comes in handy on spur of the moment when I don't have my Garmin GPS with me.
Jeez...I play YouTube videos like crazy loving watching videos and music videos, watch movies from time to time. I read the news on it and use it to look up stuff on the internet. I get on it when I'm in an uncomfortable environment
I use the star chart app on a nice clear night to look at the stars and planets,
I listen to police scanner and listen for bad weather updates. I listen to the radio on it from time to time
is that 80 dollars after taxes or before taxes?All of this is possible on my $80 Android phone.
is that 80 dollars after taxes or before taxes?
Seriously not going to run my business on an $80 phone; and this is just me speaking. FaceTime, iMessage, iCloud photo sharing is important to me. Longevity and support is important.
How bout drop the phone and crack the screen support? I can walk into an Apple Store and get a new phone and be up and running in .5 hour. If you are happy with your $65 phone, go for it. I have iOS 9.3.3 b5 on my iPad 2; circa 2011. Probably another year or two on 5s for support. I like my iPhone as in the end it just works and lasts; unless I drop it.Support? For what? User error? Just buy a phone that works out of the box and understand how to use it. I never have any problems with my phones.
Actually, I think it was more like $65 that I paid through Virgin Mobile. I wouldn't run a business off of this phone either, but that is not what the OP was offering up. He/she was talking about very basic use that almost any smart phone is capable of. I don't see this as a compelling reason to spend $700.
I do t really either, but my iPad 2 hit the ground(I didn't do it), my 5s fell screen down on rocks, was lucky only screen protector got damaged, 6s got doused with a cup of hot coffee(cleaned it with rubbing alcohol and moved on). These threads a filled with similar sentiment but accidents happen.Yeah. I don't really drop my phones in the ground. Never broke a screen. A little bit of care can save a person a lot of money.
Exactly, for you the iPhone is worth what you paid for it because you feel that it's not overpriced and it's worth what you paid for it.Perceived value. Isn't that what is being said about pricing being a personal and subjective thing. For me the iphone is worth what I payed for it, in-line with earlier comments of why. I'd would rather have on iphone 6s 64 gig than two Nexus devices.
As far as car comments and doing everything on Android that costs have of an iphone. Yes and most importantly no. I can't do native video calling, which is important to me. Imessage is the best there is with all of the bells and whistles and I can't do that either. Iclould photo sharing with the family, easy-peasy. Support and longevity...it's a no-brainer. As you said, value is subjective and your not going to change my mind that these iphones are worth every penny.
The car comments are in-line with the way I look at buying goods. It's not only about intended function, but it's about form and function of which apple, IMO, is the best at.
is that 80 dollars after taxes or before taxes?
Seriously not going to run my business on an $80 phone; and this is just me speaking. FaceTime, iMessage, iCloud photo sharing is important to me. Longevity and support is important.
Apples future plans:
- big into healthcare, telehealth innovations
- human rights they seem to be the leader here
- philanthropy outside sources rate their programs highly and Apple has given away $100m in the past
- American company who wants to change the world - nuff said
I totally understand; if your basic check boxes are:Exactly, for you the iPhone is worth what you paid for it because you feel that it's not overpriced and it's worth what you paid for it.
Native video calling would imply that all or the majority of your contacts have an iPhone so you can use FaceTime. If the all or the majority of your contacts do not have an iPhone then the native video calling would not be beneficial as in my case. iMessage in your opinion is the best but again it only works if all or the majority of your contacts have an iPhone, again which is not the case for me. Now, the Messaging app, the simplicity of it is nice I will admit that. iCloud photo sharing with family, again similar story as it requires everyone you're sharing with to use an iPhone.
You're the target audience for Apple products as you use a lot of their services and the majority of your contacts have at least an iPhone. I prefer multi-platform apps so I am not tied to any OS, I do not like how Apple is so proprietary with their stuff. I believe Apple at one point said that FaceTime would be an open source standard, but that never happened.
I think you're missing the point. The android phone that was mentioned for $80 is capable of doing everything that the OP mentioned uses his/her phone for. Also, Apple's future plans that you mentioned have nothing to do with functionality of a device right now which is what the topic is about.
So let's extend this list a little bit.I totally understand; if your basic check boxes are:
1 emails
2 Facebook
3 calls
Every phone these days can do that. But how many on here, meaning MR, to use this as an example, "only" do 1,2,3?
Sure overpriced compared to the earths population, but not necessarily to apples customers. Now if you add in support and longevity and native video, messaging and iCloud photo sharing and a dash of simplicity along with device integration the outcome looks a bit different.So let's extend this list a little bit.
1 phone call
2 emails
3 Facebook
4 Twitter
5 Pokemon go
6 clash of clans
7 snapchat
8 mobile strike
9 Microsoft word
10 Microsoft PowerPoint
11 Dropbox
12 Documents
Of course there are not many people in MR "only" do "1-12", but even that, currently an android device can already serve the need for those users. None of those are iPhone exclusive.
You say "overprice" is a subjective matter and it depends on how an individual see the price of a product. Then you think it is not overpriced does not change the fact that iPhone IS overpriced. This is a common sense for majority of people around the world.
So you mention services. Sure, we also know What Apple sells to us is not just a single iPhone, but a lot of services including all you have mentioned, and the cost of those services varies enormously too. We don't need to mention those even vague R&D cost.Sure overpriced compared to the earths population, but not necessarily to apples customers. Now if you add in support and longevity and native video, messaging and iCloud photo sharing and a dash of simplicity along with device integration the outcome looks a bit different.
You know what, I kinda agree. A Ferrari is overpriced for a lot of people and yet there is a two year waiting list. This notion of "a lot of people" is the problem with your discussion. Apple isn't targeting the phone to those who think they are overpriced, they don't care what you think about the price. You want the phone you buy it. In your vien of logic "a lot of people" will find a second hand $80 phone overpriced. Because you can't quantity your rationale.So you mention services. Sure, we also know What Apple sells to us is not just a single iPhone, but a lot of services including all you have mentioned, and the cost of those services varies enormously too. We don't need to mention those even vague R&D cost.
Add all of those above, then someone may assume "hmm, seems that iPhone is not that costly" and boom, they buy an iPhone. But hardware wise, especially hardware quality wise, for lots of people, iPhone is still overpriced, no matter how we both think, especially when recent android device quality has improved a lot.
Kinda realise I am spinning rather than moving forward.![]()
So that's it. Have a nice day. Bye.You know what, I kinda agree. A Ferrari is overpriced for a lot of people and yet there is a two year waiting list. This notion of "a lot of people" is the problem with your discussion. Apple isn't targeting the phone to those who think they are overpriced, they don't care what you think about the price. You want the phone you buy it. In your vien of logic "a lot of people" will find a second hand $80 phone overpriced. Because you can't quantity your rationale.
It was fun.So that's it. Have a nice day. Bye.
My wife needs a new phone and I will be giving her my iPhone 6. I have been saving for an iPhone 7 and was planning to get it in September. However, I may need to get a new phone soon.
I have been using Apple products (iPhones + MacBooks + iPads) exclusively for the past 6 years. However, I think the time has come for me to make a change. I can no longer justify paying $1200 CAD for a phone. As strong as my preference is for Apple products, I just have better ideas of what I can be doing with my money. Maybe it is part of maturity or Canadian dollar. I have placed an order for OnePlus 3 $500 CAD and will be trying Android tomorrow.
I am willing to let go of iMessage and iCloud as I have enough knowledge and skills to setup alternative solutions. I hope that I will enjoying using Android as my last experience with Android was not so pleasant but that was 7 years ago.