Well go on with the Apple defence, but it doesn't prove the iPhone is not overpriced. In fact it is the fact that the iPhone is overpriced that contributes to Apple's record profits.
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Well go on with the Apple defence, but it doesn't prove the iPhone is not overpriced. In fact it is the fact that the iPhone is overpriced that contributes to Apple's record profits.
Because overpriced is a personal yardstick? Let's be honest, good old fashioned Apple bashing, is countered by good old Apple defense. And that a massive amount if people pay these prices should tell you there are different points of views.
The obscenely priced iPhone versus the very reasonably priced Nexus.
I've been using the Nexus and iPhone since they were released. Android is the most improved player. It's elegant aluminum high quality build is stellar. It's functionality exceeds the mundane iPhone.
Each are excellent, but the Nexus has earned the top spot in my collection. The Nexus is my primary smartphone, the iPhone makes a good secondary unit.
Check out Apple's greedy pricing:
iPhone 6S Plus 64GB....... $849
Google Nexus 6P 64GB.... $475
I've been using the Nexus and iPhone since they were released. Android is the most improved player. It's elegant aluminum high quality build is stellar. It's functionality exceeds the mundane iPhone.
Each are excellent, but the Nexus has earned the top spot in my collection. The Nexus is my primary smartphone, the iPhone makes a good secondary unit.
Check out Apple's greedy pricing:
iPhone 6S Plus 64GB....... $849
Google Nexus 6P 64GB.... $475
Then why Apple needs $800 to produce a phone while android rival could just use $400 to reach the same quality of hardware? Or simpler, why Apple needs more to reach the same standard, hardware wise?
There are even macrumors posts saying Apple orders its suppliers to lower components price to keep its profit margin. How would you explain this? Rumours also shows Apple next iPhone price may simply go higher than iPhone 6s series. Fact is there.
And yet I've bought every 64GB device until they introduced the 128GB 6 and then 6S plus. Must be a market huh?
So then buy the $400 phone if you think you are getting the same product. Go for it, when it breaks go to your local Apple Store and get it fixed; call your friends on FaceTime or iMessage. Get timely updates.
Why would I want to explain a company that spends billions on manufacturing to negotiate the lowest price. Business 101.
I think only Apple defence could justify over $1000 for a device with 1GB of ram and 16GB of storage in 2016. That is not Apple bashing.
The majority of people reject the iPhone, so I would think that the view of the iPhone as well priced is a minority one and regardless, sales volume have NOTHING to do with a product being overpriced.
iOS is much more optimized to not HAVE to require the spec sheet RAM you are talking about. Samsung doesn't support SD cards anymore, why? It's more profitable as Apple has shown.
Right, keep thinking that THE majority of people reject the iPhone. Sales say otherwise. Explain? How can you reject something that you purchase? Lunacy.
No, the people who bought iPhones such that Apple is the most valuable company don't agree with you. These consumers may be in the minority as compared to earths total population, but they (Apple)have the most market share when comparing flagships.
Overpriced is your own definition, I don't consider iPhones overpriced.
Ok, you successfully adds iOS and software into discussion, which is not what I intend to do. I only discuss about hardware.
Nevertheless, overpriced is overpriced. No one can change this fact other than Apple.
iOS 7 was the last version of iOS to run well on the 64 bit 1GB devices, its a terrible experience in terms of reloading of apps in multitasking and tabs. iOS is more optimised, but it still has grown over the years.
Not sure what SD cards have to do with anything but the S7 has an SD card slot.
Because iPhones make up the minority of the smartphone market sales. The vast majority of smartphone users purchase any number of Android products, many of which are built just as well and can do everything the iPhone can do for a fraction of the price. Thus the majority of the smartphone market does reject the iPhone. Its delusional to think otherwise.
I just put a 128GB Micro SD Card in my S7 Edge this morning. Not here to defend Samsung... I still carry and and iPad and 6+ as I mentioned in my earlier post. A lot of things I like about my S7 Edge as I mentioned... but hope to see more with the next iPhone. Love technology... no matter what brand or platform.
This is true, I haven't checked out the S7, but was funny to see the S6 not have one.
However before you were saying that the iPhones were not overpriced as a fact, backed by the fact that people buy them in droves, which doesn't prove anything. Some people are happy to overpay.
Exactly. Though claiming that selling the iPhone 6 (6, not 6S) for the amount they charge in 2016 is not overpriced is absolute rubbish.
Payment plans would be my guess as to why Apple has sold so many iPhones. Not everyone can afford the $499/$749/$849 upfront costs. I realize the 16GB costs $100 less, but for a lot of people that isn't enough storage.
This is exactly correct, stating whether something is overpriced is subjective.
All of what you described can be done on an Android phone half of the cost of the iPhone. It's perfectly acceptable to just prefer one platform over the other.
To me, iOS and Android can accomplish the same tasks for my usage/needs that I have no preference over what OS at this point. A phone is merely a tool for me. When it comes time for me to get a new phone I will likely choose what would benefit me the most in terms of hardware/features ignoring what OS it is running. For me to pay $800+ for a phone it needs to offer more than the iPhone does currently. Now that Samsung has set the bar high with the S7, I want fast charging, waterproof and expandable storage. I don't see this occurring on the expandable storage but I could go for fast charging and waterproof design.
The benefit to Apple products to me now is their track record. I very rarely in my years of using iPhones had to do anything special to keep the phone running. I also had the peace of mind if something did happen I could walk into an Apple Store and have it fixed. But, I've only maybe had to visit an Apple Store once or twice to get a product fixed.
That said, I am willing to try out other companies as I believe that they offer more hardware features that I'm looking for at a cheaper price point. If I don't like it, I can always pick up another iPhone or for the same price as a 6S plus 64GB I can pick up a Nexus 6P and an iPhone SE to swap SIM cards back and forth. I'm not a huge fan of the iPhone screen quality so for me an iPhone is just about dependability/reliability. Going forward I really see an iPhone as potentially becoming my backup device with an Android phone as my primary device.
How do I use all my phones?
Short answer - They all work well together.
Long answer...
Microsoft Lumia 640
+ Pictures and video recording since it actually takes the best ones.
+ Clearest and loudest voice quality. Kudos, Nokia.
+ Loud speaker equal to my LG.
+ 3rd best battery life.
+ Pocket Wi-Fi (hotspot) for my other phones.
+ Texting since my Smart sim is the only one to get signal in my room.
+ The workhorse phone right now needing to be charged often since acts as the Pocket Wi-Fi device for the others.
+ Removable battery and sd slot
- Don't use it to web browse much since I prefer to do it on Android.
- Viber, Netflix, and MX Player is weak for WP. No Instagram or Snapchat. Can't web cam with FB Messenger either.
- YouTube video downloading apps NOT as good as TubeMate.
- No Camfrog! Aww! But it can record the showings. Yay!
- Great Nokian hardware only bogged down by Microsoft software.
Motorola Moto E2 4G
+ Wi-Fi browsing
+ Best battery life going beyond 10-12 hrs easily.
+ Longest Wi-Fi range surprisingly beating the Xiaomi which has Wi-Fi ac.
+ Fast and fairly smooth UI.
+ Perfect ergonomics better than iPhone 4, 5, and 6 series. Perfect height.
+ Use it when I travel to town since it rains alot and has water-resist nano coating and more compact.
+ Media playback because the speaker is in the front so when I lay it down, it doesn't muffle the sound.
+ Favorite to use at the moment because long battery and so comfortable to hold.
+ If either Lumia or Moto ever got stolen, hey, they were only $30. *shrugs*
- Poor camera and voice quality though.
- No LED flash
LG G3 Beat
+ Rooted
+ Removable battery and sd-slot
+ Dual sim
+ My gold draws the most glances (fashionista phone)...
+ Everything the Moto E2 can do especially for media storage but with a better hardware for camera and HD display.
+ 2nd best in reception and camera to Lumia and loud speaker equal to it.
+ 2nd best battery life
+ Strongest LED flash
+ Fav design that I own and only non-black front.
+ Doesn't overheat like my HTC One M7 did after 20 minutes of PvZ2. Modest matte plastic exterior and Snapdragon 400 at 1.2 GHz helps it keep cool and with longer gameplay (6-7 hrs over HTC's 3-4 hrs)
+ My current favorite because although it seems kinda laggy with its LG skin, it doesn't have any major weaknesses after that. Either 1st or 2nd at what it can do while having my favorite OS on it.
Xiaomi Mi 3
+ My oldest phone which I use mainly to download videos.
+ My fav to use for Camfrog or anything with nude women.
Naughty, naughty, Chinese-made phones that spy on us.+ Favorite to use for ebooks since Moon+ Reader is the fastest for it.
+ Best for browsing.
+ Daily driver from July 2014 - April 2016
+ Games because it has the best GPU
+ The first Android that offered me 10 hr SOT when I first got it.
+ The first Android that taught me not to pay so much for phones and be a tightwad. A $250 phone with better specs than a Nexus 5 or as fast as a Note 3!
+ Dropped it twice on tile, no cracks on the screen. Durable.
+ Only Android I have upgradeable to Marshmallow.
- Non removable battery degraded after 20 months. 4th best now which is why I don't use as much. Equal now to the iPhone 5 (5-6 hr SOT) I used very briefly last year.
- Limited storage space (6 GB avail) where practically all my photos was cleared out.
- Other, newer, and cheaper phones I got surpassed its camera and its video recording is fairly bad now.
MyPhone my81 DTV
+ Rooted
+ Removable battery and sd slot
+ Dual sim
+ My most rarely used phone but got it because I have no TV signal in my room.
+ Basically helped me out when the 2016 NBA Finals was on.
+ Radio is very loud and clear.
+ Only "4 screen but it helped me see if I could live with an iPhone SE. Doable but prefer the Moto E2 comfort and size.
+ Surprisingly has the strongest signal because it could get a Globe signal in my room while the other phones can't. Not bad for a $38 local branded phone.
- Worst screen which inverts the color when you tilt it a slight. Although viewing angle not affected when the DTV is on.
- Worst camera (front and back)
- Worst battery life comparable to a Nokia X with comparable specs. Sub-5 hr SOT for video and web.
- On Lollipop but most laggy with Spreadtrum SoC with only 512 MB RAM.
- Only ONE channel I get but it was good enough to watch the NBA Finals since it was on it.
- Least favorite to use since it has specs comparable to Android flagships from 2009 but at least it has a built-in DTV receiver and it can record the shows.
Future
Apple iPhone 7
+ When traveling and swimming to take photos. The travel and beach phone!
+ Games since the GPU will likely be fast and more available in the App Store.
+ Re-download all my paid apps I bought from over half a decade ago.
+ Planning to move the Smart sim inside the Lumia into the iPhone. So however I use Lumia now, iPhone will do it.
+ Prefer the web browsing on iOS over WP but not over Android which has CM Browser and Opera Mini and ability to download files other than images.
+ iOS has better apps than WP, especially since it has Camfrog! ;-)
- Media playback I prefer Android, WP, then iOS. Hate iTunes and doesn't have a file manager as good as ES File Explorer and Microsoft's Files. I prefer folders to store my media.
- Likely my main phone since my Smart sim will be in it which is also tri-cut to nano, but at best, my 3rd fav overall phone to use which mirrors my ranking with mobile OSes.
Like watching The Avengers help each other out with their specific talent/skill-set or playing Final Fantasy games. You have a party with multiple characters. You figure out how to use each party member for certain situations. That's how to juggle phones similar to The Woz who juggles like TEN different phones.
Each phone has each other's back and a specific job to do. A phone/OS' weakness could be another phone/OS' strengths and vice-versa. Nobody should be obliged to take sides. They are all great in their own way. Fanboyism only breeds hate and discredits something you may start to appreciate much later. Love conquers all.
Think Different.
Be Together. Not The Same.
This is exactly the reason why iphone have sold well in usa. Subsidized phones via carriers.
http://www.cnet.com/news/almost-half-of-smartphones-sold-in-us-linked-to-installment-plans/
http://time.com/4028327/apple-iphone-upgrade-program/
awhile ago i read some article (newspaper) which was about history of smartphones and their popularity. They were also talking about why iphone was/is popular in countries like usa vs europe (generally) and the main reason was that you got iphone cheap in usa. (In europe you usually paid/pay full price.)
That is the reason why apple has its own program aswell and it is quite clever. If people should pay full price, apples selling would drop alot.
The same exact thought would apply to any flagship? as this has been discussed for well over a year here on mr.
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Are Samsung and HTC flagships immune from the $649 sticker shocker....or is it just apple?
IOS and Android accomplish the same goals in much the same way as my Subie and Porsche. But the ride, acceleration, panache, handling etc on these two cars are different. If my end goal is to get somewhere as cheaply as possible neither car is suited; etc. You know where this is going. If all one does is check facebook and email, a cheap phone can be had. If you check facebook, emails, video chat, text, run your business, share your photographs and your community is mostly iphone, and you want good support and 4 to 5 years of useful life from your device, maybe the iphone isn't that expensive.
Yes, because Google is charity. Oh wait ... Every single android phone has dropped in price few weeks or a month after release. For an obvious reason. Which is not so obvious to you.
It's tough to get your biases out of your posts and this post represents your bias/yardstick. Other people overpay based on your definition. A consumer buys what they want based on their own value system and spend their own money the way they want.
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Can't discuss hardware only, it's a meaningless discussion. And again, overpriced is a value judgement and if the 6s is overpriced at $649, so is the s7.
And the exact same thing can be said about the bias in this post. Do you think I'm some Android troll or something? I'm bloody typing on an iPad. One can like (well like less and less as time goes off) a product but find it overpriced.
I do not dispute what a customer does, however outdated hardware at high prices is the definition of overpriced (at least in my books), and saying that the evidence for the iPhone not being overpriced is that Apple makes high profits and people buy their product, does not cut it.
Why do you care what apple sells and at what price? It has absolutely no impact on you; as you can choose not to buy it. The price is the price. It seems people are willing to pay "the price" because that is what it(whatever product we are discussing) is selling at.
It again gets down the definition of what you believe "overpriced" is.
Nevertheless, many users can easily agree that Apple device is overpriced.
We cannot change it whatsoever.