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Nevertheless, many users can easily agree that Apple device is overpriced.
We cannot change it whatsoever.
And some also agree the s7 is overpriced. Where does that leave this conversation?

Overpriced is a value judgement, and because one feels something is overpriced does not mean it wont be bought, but it still is a value judgement. Many feel it's worth the price.
 
The obscenely priced iPhone versus the very reasonably priced Nexus.

I've been using the Nexus and iPhone since they were released. Android is the most improved player. It's elegant aluminum high quality build is stellar. It's functionality exceeds the mundane iPhone.

Each are excellent, but the Nexus has earned the top spot in my collection. The Nexus is my primary smartphone, the iPhone makes a good secondary unit.




Check out Apple's greedy pricing:

iPhone 6S Plus 64GB....... $849
Google Nexus 6P 64GB.... $475
Well Imo the nexus devices have always lacked in certain features e.g camera, battery life etc. I find them bland compare to other android devices such as the Galaxy devices which are more premium and offer more features. If I was going to get an android phone it would not be a nexus. I'd get Samsung, LG of HTC phone before I'd get a nexus.
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I think the iPhone is overpriced. Apple's margins are gigantic and the iPhone lags behind often (especially storage and ram) to support small margin increases. In Australia, iPhones are more expensive than most iPads and start to be on par with Mac pricing (Especially in the + model) which is crazy.
Although a Mac/ laptop is much more powerful than an iPhone/smartphone, a smartphone is more useful to me because I can carry it everywhere with me and it does about 95 % of the computing tasks I need to do well enough. It's a computer in my pocket and is more valuable to me than my MacBook or iPad. It's my primary device and therefore is worth paying a premium for.
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And yet I've bought every 64GB device until they introduced the 128GB 6 and then 6S plus. Must be a market huh?
I've always bought the highest available capacity iPhone going back to the 3G and if the 7 comes in 256GB I'll buy that too.
 
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Minus the MyPhone which I barely use..

Design
1. LG G3 Beat
2. Xiaomi Mi 3
3. Motorola Moto E2 4G
4. Microsoft Lumia 640

iPhone 7 likely ranks at #3. Kinda average design. If it looked like SE, maybe #1 or #2.


Ergonomics
1. Motorola Moto E2 4G
2. LG G3 Beat
3. Microsoft Lumia 640
4. Xiaomi Mi 3

iPhone 7 likely ranks at #3. Neither SE or 7 can beat the ergonomics of the Moto E. Offspring of the Moto X & G from 2013. 130mm is the bull's eye height for me.


Watching Videos
1. LG G3 Beat
2. Motorola Moto E2 4G
3. Microsoft Lumia 640
4. Xiaomi Mi 3

iPhone 7 likely ranks at #4. Lack of multiple video formats, pain to organize them, and no folders. MX Player rules. LG and Moto also carry my 64gb sd card.


Music Listening (Internal/External)
1. LG G3 Beat
2. Motorola Moto E2 4G
3. Microsoft Lumia 640
4. Xiaomi Mi 3

iPhone 7 likely ranks at #1. Apple is this generation's Sony with audio.


Camera
1. Microsoft Lumia 640
2. LG G3 Beat
3. Xiaomi Mi 3
4. Motorola Moto E2 4G

iPhone 7 likely ranks #1. Pretty obvious. Waterproofing to boot. Although probably below my Androids in photo viewing because it doesn't have QuickPic and organizing albums is a hassle.


Games
1. Xiaomi Mi 3
2. Motorola Moto E2 4G
3. LG G3 Beat
4. Microsoft Lumia 640

iPhone 7 likely ranks #1. Best GPU. LG and Lumia are close to deadheat since they share the same exact SoC.


Texting
1. Motorola Moto E2 4G
2. Xiaomi Mi 3
3. LG G3 Beat
4. Microsoft Lumia 640

iPhone 7 likely ranks #4. SwiftKey rules but sucks on iOS. QuickType has an inferior predictive system. But iOS does have superior emojis than WP default. Part reason why Moto also wins is ergonomics.


Battery Life
1. Motorola Moto E2 4G
2. LG G3 Beat
3. Microsoft Lumia 640
4. Xiaomi Mi 3

iPhone 7 could rank from #1-#4. That first three is actually quite fantastic. The Xiaomi when it was new was on par with all of them. If 7 is similar to SE, then #1. If similar to 6s, then Top 3. The 7 Plus and Pro models likely tops the regular 7 easily.


Phone
1. Microsoft Lumia 640
2. LG G3 Beat
3. Xiaomi Mi 3
4. Motorola Moto E2 4G

iPhone 7 likely ranks at #2 or #3. I doubt Apple beating Nokia. Reception on the Lumia is like talking on a landline. Clear and loud on both ends, and I live where there are dead spots. LG is also pretty loud too.


Browsing / Internet
1. Xiaomi Mi 3
2. Motorola Moto E2 4G
3. LG G3 Beat
4. Microsoft Lumia 640

iPhone 7 likely ranks #4. Shocking but remember I can't download videos and other files on its browser. Safari will beat UC Browser or IE on WP. Part reason here is because while browsing will be the fastest on iOS, it lacks a file manager. Xiaomi is like my adult site downloader and browser. And no torrent apps or TubeMate for iOS.

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1. Android
2. Windows Phone
3. iOS

iOS might be #2 for me again after I jailbreak it thanks to more apps and tweaks.


Overall -
1. LG G3 Beat
2. Motorola Moto E2 4G
3. Microsoft Lumia 640
4. Xiaomi Mi 3

iPhone 7 will likely be between #3 or #4 since the $30 Lumia 640 has 32gb sd card, removable battery, etc. The iPhone mainly for camera, music, and games.

Just because it is the most expensive phone, fastest, best-looking, or best camera doesn't always mean it will be a favorite of mine to use since I have specific things I look for. LG has the laggiest UI although I smoothed it out, but for some reason I like it the best right now since excels in all the other areas. But I try to love them all equally like my family...

Live together. Die alone.

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Yes, because Google is charity. Oh wait ... Every single android phone has dropped in price few weeks or a month after release. For an obvious reason. Which is not so obvious to you.
This seems like a typical Apple Devotees rather emotional response to a valid comment highlighting how overpriced iPhones are.
 
This seems like a typical Apple Devotees rather emotional response to a valid comment highlighting how overpriced iPhones are.
They can't be that "overpriced" with 10 record breaking quarters. Somebody must be buying them to propel apples earnings into the stratosphere. Also seems they are priced similar to the competition so if one is overpriced they all are. Can't have it both ways.
 
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Personally, I do think they are overpriced but you get what you pay for, you get quality with an iPhone, some Android manufacturers charge just as much and their phones are buggy mess.
 
I like the iPhone because they do what they want and don't give in to anybody. All the iPhones on all carriers all have the exact same apps built into the OS. I like this piece of mind with iPhone when I'm blowing $600 + on my phone.

Samsung going to charge me as much if not more for its phone and have it weighed down in bloat and advertising. Maybe they can put even more impressive bigger specs on its phones it needs that extra horsepower to run its billboard and huge blood sucking touchwiz.

Even an iPhone with only 1gb to 2gb of ram run flawless Samsung have all that ram and still can't run smoothly all the time. IOS much leaner and better with better memory management. Just enough memory to run the phone properly.


Look at all the Samsung galaxy devices and the complementary bloatware, and each variant has its own Verizon, AT&T, Sprint etc etc apps built right into the OS on top of it .

Maybe less true today, but it shouldn't be, but the iPhone always had better resale value than any other phone.

Go buy you an HTC flagship phone and let me know the trade in value 2 years from now VS the 2 year old iPhone. Samsung use to be the same way until they got hyped to death, but I bet you my rent money the iPhone will still hold its value better, for one it will be running strong for sure 2 years later.

All these phones priced similar new in the flagship line, Samsung, HTC, iPhone's

Which ones are full of advertisements? Which aren't?

Which ones will get you better trade in value or money by selling outright later down the road?

Which phones more than likely will be running stronger down the path?

It will be like wow you have that old Samsung phone you never hear oh you have that old iPhone, it will be oh you have the iPhone 5s or the iPhone 6 cool.

I'd take an older iPhone over a new Android any day. Because even an iPhone 5s has something going for it that Samsung still hasn't released...a slim OS, great memory management and no bloatware and the phone just works smoothly, still has better security and all the perks of owning an iPhone...

So yeah to those people saying iPhone is overpriced...
 
Well Imo the nexus devices have always lacked in certain features e.g camera, battery life etc. I find them bland compare to other android devices such as the Galaxy devices which are more premium and offer more features. If I was going to get an android phone it would not be a nexus. I'd get Samsung, LG of HTC phone before I'd get a nexus.
I'm a hard core smartphone enthusiast. Currently I have several Android flagship models including the Galaxy S7 Edge, LG V10, Nexus 6P and others. On the iOS side I have an iPhone 6S and 6S Plus. All active on dedicated lines, it's very enjoyable and interesting to use and enjoy each of these excellent phones on a daily basis.

The reason I choose the Nexus 6P as my primary smartphone is due to its exceptional build quality, the excellent ergonomics of its carefully rounded back, and my preference for Android version 6.x.x in an unaltered state. This is a dramatically improved handset over each of my prior Nexus models.

My Galaxy S7 Edge is quite nice but I find the mechanical home button, like the one on iPhones, to be a big drawback. Android phones are capable of true fast and efficient multitasking. Using the lightning fast one touch capacitive buttons on my Nexus 6P is a stellar example of Android at its finest.

Conversely, having to double click the iPhones old school analog home button is an incredibly frustrating, horribly slow... old fashioned way to do things.

That's another reason I prefer my LG V10 over the Galaxy, is it's use of capacitive buttons. Luckily for Apple it appears that the company may be caving in to modern times and releasing it's death grip on the old way of doing things. Rumors of them copying Google and using a capacitive home button is very good news.

They can't be that "overpriced" with 10 record breaking quarters. Somebody must be buying them to propel apples earnings into the stratosphere.
You're confused.

iPhones are indeed very overpriced. So Samsung and others simply price accordingly.

Most of us realize we're choosing overpriced products and buy anyway. That's also the norm. We realize that if we want an iPhone, we must pay Apple Tax, their demand for as much money as the market will bear. It's quite clever of them.
 
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I'm a hard core smartphone enthusiast. Currently I have several Android flagship models including the Galaxy S7 Edge, LG V10, Nexus 6P and others. On the iOS side I have an iPhone 6S and 6S Plus. All active on dedicated lines, it's very enjoyable and interesting to use and enjoy each of these excellent phones on a daily basis.

The reason I choose the Nexus 6P as my primary smartphone is due to its exceptional build quality, the excellent ergonomics of its carefully rounded back, and my preference for Android version 6.x.x in an unaltered state. This is a dramatically improved handset over each of my prior Nexus models.

My Galaxy S7 Edge is quite nice but I find the mechanical home button, like the one on iPhones, to be a big drawback. Android phones are capable of true fast and efficient multitasking. Using the lightning fast one touch capacitive buttons on my Nexus 6P is a stellar example of Android at its finest.

Conversely, having to double click the iPhones old school analog home button is an incredibly frustrating, old fashioned way to do things.

That's another reason I prefer my LG V10 over the Galaxy, is it's use of capacitive buttons. Luckily for Apple it appears that the company may be caving in to modern times and releasing it's death grip on the old way of doing things. Rumors of them copying Google and using a capacitive home button are good news.


You're confused.

iPhones are indeed very overpriced. So Samsung and others simply price accordingly.

Most of us realize we're choosing overpriced products and buy anyway. That's also the norm. We realize that if we want an iPhone, we must pay Apple Tax, their demand for as much money as the market will bear. It's quite clever of them.
People have different needs, expectations and wants. The iphone home button frustrates you, it doesn't frustrate me in the least. If apple goes capacitive great, but the home button is not anywhere near a sticking point for me.

As far as being confused, I don't think it's me. :) The price is the price. However, it does make your opinion more viable when you say all flagships are overpriced. My stance is the price is the price and I elect to pay the price or not. Some people may think these (flagship) phones are expensive but worth the money and not elect to pay the price.

As far as being a "hardcore" enthusiast, I'm a hardcore user. I use the iphone for personal and business use and it does exactly what I need, every time, without frustration or issue and that's money in the bank literally.

A Civic and M135 are the same size but vastly different in price. Is the M overpriced? Not to me especially after driving both of them. But I'm quite sure there are some who think so and the same conversation would be had.
 
Most of us realize we're choosing overpriced products and buy anyway. That's also the norm. We realize that if we want an iPhone said:
iPhone is in the same ballpark on price as any flagship Android phone. You get the perks of owning a great phone, no bloatware, better security and privacy, better OS, good resell value and just a great phone that never let's you down. Apple don't depend on advertisements to gain revenue.

You have to take into account apple has many employees , they have people consistently making sure the iPhone works well, great iOS updates , engineers, design team, distributers , all the Apple store employees, all the folks who work at there headquarters, all the big big salary people, and all the Apple advertisements to promote its product...

Apple need to make a profit like anyone else. They have there overhead too. They might charge a lot , but you get a lot..
 
Are Samsung and HTC flagships immune from the $649 sticker shocker....or is it just apple?
To get an iPhone that I would like is $849. For that price I can almost get 2x Nexus 6P devices. Samsung devices for the one I would get are around $650 so almost $200 cheaper. An HTC 10 unlocked from HTC.com is $699 and includes one "ut oh" protection in the price. $649 is not sticker shock to me as I've been purchasing devices outright since the iPhone 5. I only buy my devices unlocked and carrier bloatware free. Before the iPhone was the best phone for this but now there are more available at a lower price. Also, it's not always about the cost as I don't mind paying more for something I feel is worth it, it's about the perceived value in which I believe for me the cheaper Android phones are better.

IOS and Android accomplish the same goals in much the same way as my Subie and Porsche. But the ride, acceleration, panache, handling etc on these two cars are different. If my end goal is to get somewhere as cheaply as possible neither car is suited; etc. You know where this is going. If all one does is check facebook and email, a cheap phone can be had. If you check facebook, emails, video chat, text, run your business, share your photographs and your community is mostly iphone, and you want good support and 4 to 5 years of useful life from your device, maybe the iphone isn't that expensive.
We are discussing phones and not cars. Everything you said I could do on an Android phone that costs half of the price of an iPhone. I don't keep my phones that long to where that would be an issue. Once I don't feel a product is worth the money then I will stop buying and look elsewhere. Apple has done well with the SE in my opinion, but the 6S/6S plus are overpriced for what they offer. As I noted in my post, being overpriced is subjective so you're not going to change my opinion of Apple products being overpriced.
 
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To get an iPhone that I would like is $849. For that price I can almost get 2x Nexus 6P devices. Samsung devices for the one I would get are around $650 so almost $200 cheaper. An HTC 10 unlocked from HTC.com is $699 and includes one "ut oh" protection in the price. $649 is not sticker shock to me as I've been purchasing devices outright since the iPhone 5. I only buy my devices unlocked and carrier bloatware free. Before the iPhone was the best phone for this but now there are more available at a lower price. Also, it's not always about the cost as I don't mind paying more for something I feel is worth it, it's about the perceived value in which I believe for me the cheaper Android phones are better.


We are discussing phones and not cars. Everything you said I could do on an Android phone that costs half of the price of an iPhone. I don't keep my phones that long to where that would be an issue. Once I don't feel a product is worth the money then I will stop buying and look elsewhere. Apple has done well with the SE in my opinion, but the 6S/6S plus are overpriced for what they offer. As I noted in my post, being overpriced is subjective so you're not going to change my opinion of Apple products being overpriced.
Perceived value. Isn't that what is being said about pricing being a personal and subjective thing. For me the iphone is worth what I payed for it, in-line with earlier comments of why. I'd would rather have on iphone 6s 64 gig than two Nexus devices.

As far as car comments and doing everything on Android that costs have of an iphone. Yes and most importantly no. I can't do native video calling, which is important to me. Imessage is the best there is with all of the bells and whistles and I can't do that either. Iclould photo sharing with the family, easy-peasy. Support and longevity...it's a no-brainer. As you said, value is subjective and your not going to change my mind that these iphones are worth every penny.

The car comments are in-line with the way I look at buying goods. It's not only about intended function, but it's about form and function of which apple, IMO, is the best at.
 
I buy iphone 90% because of the software.

Apple needs to start upping its game in relation to the hardware. For example how hard would it be to add a notification LED. Come on Apple
 
I buy iphone 90% because of the software.

Apple needs to start upping its game in relation to the hardware. For example how hard would it be to add a notification LED. Come on Apple
Notification light, not gonna happen. That's not how apple rolls. On the hardware front, I'm not sure what you want apple to do:

- There is a rumor of using true-tone on the iphone 7. Much better than oled, IMO.
- The camera I'm sure will get a spec bump. I don't care if it's class leading according to DXO or not. It needs to take good pictures.
- The processor internals are already first class.
- The iphone 6s is already water resistant and I wouldn't take a waterproof phone into the ocean, much less the pool anyway.
- The iphone 7 will not have wireless charging, not at least the way it's implemented in the competition.
- Battery usage is best in class efficiency and pretty good overall.
- Memory according to rumors is already increased to 32 gig.
- Internals are being updated.
- 3DT will probably get an update.
- NFC who knows?

Apple doesn't throw hardware into the phone without a reason.

Not sure of what else is wanted/needed?
 
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This seems like a typical Apple Devotees rather emotional response to a valid comment highlighting how overpriced iPhones are.

There is nothing valid abut it. Just argument from ignorance lack of simple logic.
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You're confused.

iPhones are indeed very overpriced. So Samsung and others simply price accordingly.

Most of us realize we're choosing overpriced products and buy anyway. That's also the norm. We realize that if we want an iPhone, we must pay Apple Tax, their demand for as much money as the market will bear. It's quite clever of them.
You need some head check pal.
 
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I predict many iphone 7 reviews will mention no more 16GB base storage more than once in their reviews and spend more than one sentence mentioning it. I think that will be evidence that the larger storage option iPhones were overpriced.

Yeah most Android flagships cost the same as an iPhone but most of them let you use a sd card.
 
I predict many iphone 7 reviews will mention no more 16GB base storage more than once in their reviews and spend more than one sentence mentioning it. I think that will be evidence that the larger storage option iPhones were overpriced.

Yeah most Android flagships cost the same as an iPhone but most of them let you use a sd card.
Overpriced is as overpriced does---zeitgeist apologies to Forrest Gump.
 
iPhones start to cost too much when you can buy this for $199 by July 12th...

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Probably drops to $100 for you wait long enough since the Moto E 4G cost $130 initially before dropping to $50 or below now. I expect the Honor 5X price to drop too. With expandable storage to boot!

Motorola Moto G4, Huawei Honor 5X, Xiaomi Redmi 3, Asus Zenfone Max, ZTE Zmax 2, Microsoft Lumia 640, Motorola Moto E2, and many more can do 90% of the tasks you do on an iPhone. How much better does an iPhone do those tasks that makes them worth paying $400-$500 more for them? Camera? Get a $150-$200 digicam which actually has optical zoom and takes better photos.

I remember Sony getting so much flak for charging $600 for a PlayStation 3 ten years ago. Of course, we can't compare a video game console vs a smartphone. Because a smartphone while being more practical will only last two years, be disposed for a newer one, and having the best in specs for six months or less. But people pay hundreds of dollars for them only to sell them off at a loss later.

My, have times changed. What a struggling financial economy we live in! Considering how Bill Gates donates more money to philanthropy, I can see why Apple with its over $100B cash, its solicitation with its natural disaster donations, high profit margins, and overpricing makes the rich get richer and the poor become poorer. Scrooge McDuck swimming in gold. No wonder innovation became stagnant because corporations like Apple became fat cats.

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I'm a hard core smartphone enthusiast. Currently I have several Android flagship models including the Galaxy S7 Edge, LG V10, Nexus 6P and others. On the iOS side I have an iPhone 6S and 6S Plus. All active on dedicated lines, it's very enjoyable and interesting to use and enjoy each of these excellent phones on a daily basis.

The reason I choose the Nexus 6P as my primary smartphone is due to its exceptional build quality, the excellent ergonomics of its carefully rounded back, and my preference for Android version 6.x.x in an unaltered state. This is a dramatically improved handset over each of my prior Nexus models.

My Galaxy S7 Edge is quite nice but I find the mechanical home button, like the one on iPhones, to be a big drawback. Android phones are capable of true fast and efficient multitasking. Using the lightning fast one touch capacitive buttons on my Nexus 6P is a stellar example of Android at its finest.

Conversely, having to double click the iPhones old school analog home button is an incredibly frustrating, horribly slow... old fashioned way to do things.

That's another reason I prefer my LG V10 over the Galaxy, is it's use of capacitive buttons. Luckily for Apple it appears that the company may be caving in to modern times and releasing it's death grip on the old way of doing things. Rumors of them copying Google and using a capacitive home button is very good news.


You're confused.

iPhones are indeed very overpriced. So Samsung and others simply price accordingly.

Most of us realize we're choosing overpriced products and buy anyway. That's also the norm. We realize that if we want an iPhone, we must pay Apple Tax, their demand for as much money as the market will bear. It's quite clever of them.

Cocaine and hookers are over priced but I like 'em.
 
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iPhones start to cost too much when you can buy this for $199 by July 12th...

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Probably drops to $100 for you wait long enough since the Moto E 4G cost $130 initially before dropping to $50 or below now. I expect the Honor 5X price to drop too. With expandable storage to boot!

Motorola Moto G4, Huawei Honor 5X, Xiaomi Redmi 3, Asus Zenfone Max, ZTE Zmax 2, Microsoft Lumia 640, Motorola Moto E2, and many more can do 90% of the tasks you do on an iPhone. How much better does an iPhone do those tasks that makes them worth paying $400-$500 more for them? Camera? Get a $150-$200 digicam which actually has optical zoom and takes better photos.

I remember Sony getting so much flak for charging $600 for a PlayStation 3 ten years ago. Of course, we can't compare a video game console vs a smartphone. Because a smartphone while being more practical will only last two years, be disposed for a newer one, and having the best in specs for six months or less. But people pay hundreds of dollars for them only to sell them off at a loss later.

My, have times changed. What a struggling financial economy we live in! Considering how Bill Gates donates more money to philanthropy, I can see why Apple with its over $100B cash, its solicitation with its natural disaster donations, high profit margins, and overpricing makes the rich get richer and the poor become poorer. Scrooge McDuck swimming in gold. No wonder innovation became stagnant because corporations like Apple became fat cats.

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Moto G4, you do know is an overheating disaster of a phone right? Snapdragon have made a mess of their budget processors recently leaving them prone to overheating and in turn causing the phones to lag badly. Just Google Moto G4 Overheating, lots of unhappy customers. Google actually made the same cock up with the Nexus 5x, I mean that's a flagship phone.

The Lumia 640 how's Snapchat working on that?

Don't get me wrong I agree the iPhone is overpriced, I've left a few times in the hope of finding something more budget that functions just as well as an iPhone does but everything has came up short. With Android its always been about hardware issues, whether its lag or battery drain, with Windows phone its always been about rubbish apps, now imagine if they could combine the two, that would probably be my perfect phone.
 
Moto G4, you do know is an overheating disaster of a phone right? Snapdragon have made a mess of their budget processors recently leaving them prone to overheating and in turn causing the phones to lag badly. Just Google Moto G4 Overheating, lots of unhappy customers. Google actually made the same cock up with the Nexus 5x, I mean that's a flagship phone.

The Lumia 640 how's Snapchat working on that?

Don't get me wrong I agree the iPhone is overpriced, I've left a few times in the hope of finding something more budget that functions just as well as an iPhone does but everything has came up short. With Android its always been about hardware issues, whether its lag or battery drain, with Windows phone its always been about rubbish apps, now imagine if they could combine the two, that would probably be my perfect phone.
So the iphone is overpriced but you have "returned". So the iPhone really isn't overpriced then.

As far as budget phones, I can't trust my business to these phones. I want rock solid reliability without "tinkering". There is only one choice for that; phones made by an American corporation; whose current CEO is right alongside bill gates in giving his money away and who has made and continues to make changes in our life by use of technology. More than can be said for the tv maker.
 
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So because iPhone user buys iPhone then it is "not overpriced", which is the exact same logic that millionaires buy luxury items worth $1m and those items are not overpriced. Granted.
 
$299 Nexus 4 was cheap in 2012.
$299 Nexus 5 was cheap in 2013.
$179 Moto G was cheap in 2013.
$299 OnePlus One was cheap in 2014.

People need to understand that over five years ago, we didn't have $50 prepaid touchscreen phones like we do now. We still had clamshell and QWERTY phones. A $199 Honor 5X or Moto G4 would blow away a Nexus 4's crappy battery life. A Moto E2 (2015) surpassed the Moto G (2013) thanks to a faster SoC and sd slot. Honor 5X is better than most flagships from early 2013. Hardware and software weren't mature enough yet like now.

2020's - free Wi-Fi across the world. Nobody will complain about data plans anymore. Current flagships of today that cost $500+ will cost $50+ by 2020. Like people who stopped buying physical media and iPods, a price war race to the bottom. We could buying phones in vending machines that cost no higher than our lunch. Differences in buying phones at whatever price range and whichever OS it has is like buying different bottles of water. Negligible difference.

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Find most of them rated here. Check it out.
http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3

Find the phones with good value, comfortable size, and the one that can hit 12-12 hrs for video and web. Only the Moto E2 hits those marks for me and nearly identical to the 6s Plus.

Price - $29.99
Size - 130mm height
Battery - 12h 53m

Looking for another phone with that similar size and price. Xperia Z3C is too pricey. Majority of flagships are overpriced and overrated to me. Only the S7 edge (Exynos), iPhone SE, and iPhone 7 has got my attention. S7 edge and SE are hitting over 13-13 hrs. No to LG G5 and HTC 10. Many cheaper phones have longer battery life than expensive flagships.
 
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Mobile OS
1. Android
2. Windows Phone
3. iOS

iOS might be #2 for me again after I jailbreak it thanks to more apps and tweaks.
First you know as much about iPhone 7 as we do, second - Windows before ios? Pretty useless due to lack of apps, pretty sure ios beats both in security and privacy. YMMV.

Lastly, and don't mean to sound judgemental but how do your friends/family get in touch with you? You surely don't carry all your phones with you - do you swap out sim cards? I'm actually curious...
 
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And some also agree the s7 is overpriced. Where does that leave this conversation?

Overpriced is a value judgement, and because one feels something is overpriced does not mean it wont be bought, but it still is a value judgement. Many feel it's worth the price.

Well expensive is not the same as overpriced that's one thing the ignorant don't understand. Price is the perception of value converted to currency.

If i think it has value then I'm willing to pay the price that is being asked.

iPhone is not overpriced in my opinion. Hardware and software are top quality, build quality is excellent and customer support is second to none.

When I apply my requirements to android flagships i find them overpriced. For example HTC 10 goes for around 700 for 64 GB model. Software is lacking in my opinion and support will be not as good, not to mention that ecosystem is not even in the same neighbourhood.

So based on these points all androids are overpriced for me since they lack in ecosystem, software, software support and customer service.

For others it will be different and it's ok.
 
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