Thousands Line Up for New iPhone Production Jobs at Foxconn Facilities in China

[reedlight]

The point is the despicable working conditions that leads people to commit suicide regularly at Foxconn.

These are far from the despicably conditioned jobs at Foxconn. And they're in the U.S. Let's rise against the American Doctors for their high suicide rates. [powerfist]Occupy Examination Rooms[/powerfist]
http://www.businessinsider.com/most-suicidal-occupations-2011-10

My aim is not to be insensitive, suicide is a huge issue in any company if it's over 0%, but sometimes the workplace doesn't matter. People sometimes just don't want to live anymore. For whatever reason. And those people need help.

And most of the jobs listed have a higher suicide percentile in deaths than Foxconn.

 

[firewood]

The point is the despicable working conditions that leads people to commit suicide regularly at Foxconn.

So how come these despicable working conditions lower the statistical suicide rate? Maybe we should offer more of these types of jobs in places which have a typically higher suicide rate ??

 

[Apple Corps]

The working conditions are so bad and there are still thousands lining up for a job... and they will all be hired. It seems that "something is better than nothing" in the race to the bottom.

What in the world are you talking about re: "the race to the bottom"?

Have you ever been to China? Do you invest there? Do you grasp the quality of life trajectory improvement that the Chinese people are on compared to where they have been? Do you not comprehend that America had more than its share of social issues back in the 20s / 30s?

Give it a rest - China, for all of its pros and cons - will be the dominant economic power on the planet within 5 - 8 years. Meanwhile, in America - bla bla bla / yada yada..

 

[Apple Corps]

How about providing some FACTS / figures to back up your claim of "regularly"? I doubt you will find any.

And BTW, what are Americans lined up for - oh, that would be unemployment checks.

 

[gnasher729]

Really? No seriously, really? Never thought anyone would have the audacity to even say that working at a "undesirable" job in the USA would be comparable to working at Foxconn, where people commit suicide and the company fails to acknowledge it until the world finds out and they put a safely net around parts of the building as their response.
Being a server in a restaurant, working at Walmart, working as a janitor may not be desirable jobs in North America. But that's not the point. The point is the despicable working conditions that leads people to commit suicide regularly at Foxconn.

I don't know if you never heard about this, or if you blatantly ignore it, but the percentage of people working in US retail who are murdered on the job is higher than the percentage of Foxconn employees who commit suicide.

Apart from the fact that the suicide rate among Foxconn employees is actually quite low, what makes you think there is a correlation between working conditions and suicide? Suicide is in most cases caused by depression, or by cognitive problems (in other words, not being able to understand the world as it is with sometimes bad consequences).

 

[the8thark]

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I will not link your picture in the quote because I think it is disgusting immoral and just plain wrong. You should be ashamed you put that up here. And if you are ok with what you did, then I feel sorry for you that you can do such a thing and feel nothing wrong about it.

I just hope not to turn out like you and do this. I learnt my mistake, you learn from yours.

 

[iSayuSay]

I've visited many factories in China for years. The photos of the Foxconn factories is amazing clean nice comparing to lower end factories that produces good for the Chinese market and 2nd & 3rd tier markets.

That's why workers by the thousands are lining up to apply at Foxconn.

Agreed ...I believe Foxconn is one of a few that gives you the best work environment in China, thus many people get in line and applying. It's kinda dream job there.

And one of a few perks, what could be more exciting than get your hands first on unleashed and brand new most popular smartphone on earth? ...
Like you see it everyday you get bored!

While people on MacRumors debating to death what's the new iPhone going to look like, and customers queuing up for days just to get it on launch day.

How cool is that, huh? If I were in China, I'd do the same too. F those people who said iPhone were made in Chinese sweatshops with underage and underpaid labors.

 

[hchung]

But then you also have to address the actual materials they use. I can't remember which material but one universal to all computers is attributed to a lot of bloodshed in Africa I believe (Unfortunately it was an article I read a few months back and I have no idea on how to find it again). Something similar to why the diamond trade causes evil (but with another material).

But it's cheaper to get that material there than anywhere else (and the demand for it causes a lot of killing each other to provide it).

I'm guessing you're referring to "coltan"?

 

[Dobiewonkanobie]

Metropolis

Makes me think of the marching workers scene in Metropolis

http://youtu.be/wlpTc9tFL1c

 

[newyorksole]

WOW some of you really are crazy talking about "people are dying for your precious little phones!"

People die everyday, people work everyday, people spend everyday. Get over it. Billions of products are made everyday in hundreds of factories.

You're still gonna use products and go about your day so stop arguing over nonsense. Apple gets a weeeee bit successful because they release amazing products and everyone wants to attack them.

Shut up and enjoy your devices. If not, gather up some people and change the world's working conditions.

Jeez.

 

[ThunderSkunk]

Ahh, the iPhone. The miracle phone that only communism can build.


Definitely entertaining reading, the self-serving justifications of "consumer culture" materialists.
And you wonder why you're ridiculed so.

 

[jackc]

Ahh, the iPhone. The miracle phone that only communism can build.


Definitely entertaining reading, the self-serving justifications of "consumer culture" materialists.
And you wonder why you're ridiculed so.

So you've given up your materialistic gadgets, right? Or is it OK as long as you sneer at the masses?

 

[wackymacky]

It's because it's one of only a few products that supply cannot meet demand with and Apple makes LUXURY items - no matter how you spin it, we can all live without iWhatevers.

Are human lives worth you having a white iPhone 4S? You tell me, then live with your conscience.

What can I say? It's a dog-eat-dog world.

 

[voonyx]

Ahh, the iPhone. The miracle phone that only communism can build.


Definitely entertaining reading, the self-serving justifications of "consumer culture" materialists.
And you wonder why you're ridiculed so.

Its more entertaining reading the musings of the human rights activists who undoubtedly own products whose components were assembled at foxconn...ignorance truly is bliss!

 

[haruhiko]

If Foxconn opens a factory in the US providing more or less the same benefits as in China, I still think thousands will line up in front of it for a job. Having a freaking job is better than earning nothing.

Oh no, have I forgot that we can still earn something in the US even if we don't work, due to the social welfare system....

 

[ThunderSkunk]

So you've given up your materialistic gadgets, right? Or is it OK as long as you sneer at the masses?

Yes, last year marks the end of my participation in the crapfest.

Not that this is about me. ...unless you've missed the point.

 

[jackc]

Yes, last year marks the end of my participation in the crapfest.

Not that this is about me. ...unless you've missed the point.

Must have missed the point. Good luck going off the grid.

 

[AppleScruff1]

Do you own any iWhatevers?

Yes. Do you?

 

[greenmeanie]

There could be jobs in America but most choose to be on welfare and the rest demand $30.00/hr to turn a screw

Man, they need some of these things happening in America and Canada right now. We would love even 10,000 jobs in Ontario.

 

[greenmeanie]

Yeah because we want the phones to cost 3K a piece.

Hey Apple, How about you open factories in the US? And hire 100,000 Americans?

Hmmm...

 

[AJH1993]

Because in communist China, I am sure there is a transparent method of reporting the atrocities that happen day in and day out at these plants. These people don't know any better and think a better life awaits them when historically speaking, the only thing waiting for them as a Foxconn employee is death.

China has been a democracy for as long as I can remember. Where were you? On your soap box I'm sure.

Oh and ROFLMAO @ your signature. Just screams sheep

 

[sdugoten]

Really? No seriously, really? Never thought anyone would have the audacity to even say that working at a "undesirable" job in the USA would be comparable to working at Foxconn, where people commit suicide and the company fails to acknowledge it until the world finds out and they put a safely net around parts of the building as their response.
Being a server in a restaurant, working at Walmart, working as a janitor may not be desirable jobs in North America. But that's not the point. The point is the despicable working conditions that leads people to commit suicide regularly at Foxconn.

You have no clue how China works.

Foxconn working environment maybe bad if you compare it against the working environment in the States. However, Foxconn have one of the best working environment for the workers in China because they *somehow* need to follow the international standard.

Look at it this way:

Working Environment for US workers - 80 points
Working Environment for China workers in Foxconn - 50 points
Working Environment for China workers in other factory - 20 points

If you are a China blue collar worker, where do you want to work in China? This is no brainer.

 

[ChennaiMacMan]

Great! Is our MR spy one of them?

 

[insider-man]

Some amusing comments on here - let me enlighten a few folks about the reality of Foxconn and the working conditions in China (particularly on Apple lines).

Firstly, Shenzhen, they work 12 hour shifts with 2 breaks, there is food places around all the factory areas. I've often walked down the line and seen workers half a sleep hand on cheek waiting for the next item come down the line. Then other times they are a hive of activity, however there is no supervisors beating people or forcing them to work. Manufacturing shop floors conditions I've seen in other manufacturers in both in China and outside are not much different.

Foxconn in particular recruits 18-30 year old, yes they put up the suicide nets at the Shenzhen site. One thing people really need to understand is that the Apple production lines are run differently to the other company lines (Sony, Microsoft, Dell etc) that are built there. The majority of the suicides were from non-Apple production floors. As has been widely reported the level of suicides in the amount of 18-30 population at the site is lower than the national average.

Chengdu, they changed the 2 x 12 hours shifts to 3 x 8 hour shifts because the local population refuse to do 12 hour shifts. The vast majority of the production staff live local and bus services are provided for staff (packed they may well be but at bus they are). The iPad should by now be exclusively built here after moving from the Shenzhen, Long Hua plant.

Zhengzhou, the place has been operational for best part of a year already. However it's not running at full capacity the target capacity for the place is 1 million (yes 1 million) iPhone per day - staggering figures but target figures only. However the size of the factory and accommodation areas are quite literally the size of a small city.

Foxconn are focusing to move all the production of iPhones away from Shenzhen, Guan Lan plant to the Zhengzhou plant - tax reason and large proportion of the employees in Shenzhen are from the Hunan region (Zhengzhou) anyway.

In the meantime Foxconn Brazil will be producing both iPhones and iPads for the local market . .. .

 

[tigress666]

I'm guessing you're referring to "coltan"?

Looked it up, that sounds about right or that it could be what I had read about. Thanks.