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Thunderbolt 3 Ports on Right Side of 13-Inch MacBook Pro Have Reduced PCI Express Bandwidth
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That is not at all what I said, and I am not demanding anything.
I mentioned a single multipurpose port, that it doesn't fully support the new MacBook Pro lineup. It' can't properly supply power to the new 15" MBP, and it has limitations on video output. I followed by stating that Apple didn't appear to update it to fully support their released MBP lineup. In a followup response I stated that there is no suitable option with these features provided by Apple for the new MBP. The only indented implication is that I am disappointed that the array of dongles By Apple, for their products isn't consistent, and, they should have had updated models available at the release of this lineup.
What's that mate? We can't hear you!
Really there are a lot of people here who don't understand the technical side of Intels chips and architecture...
But this is an Apple based forum, so a lack of technical knowledge comes with the territory I suppose
"Go check the support documentation to see how to use the Mac". What is this, Microsoft 1990s??
I don't understand everyone freaking out over the price. I do understand the frustration regarding features/specs/ports etc.....but price? Seems pretty normal to me. The Air started out at almost 2k for the base model and over 3k for the top tier. I believe the first retina MBPs were 1500+ for the base 13 inches and over 2,200 for the 15".....
How stupid Apple is becoming. One side for fast operations. The other not so. Ridiculous nonsense. Poorly designed machines. It just does not work.
I use my Mac in almost the same exact way and I also agree with you and Apple about their direction with the Mac thus far. I want it thinner. I want legacy ports gone. Hell I even wouldn't mind the headphone jack going away from the Mac as well (Yes, I really said that so see you in hell Macrumors forum
Anyway I have an iMac and use only two USB ports, one of which is a UPS, so if I had a MBP, I would only happily use just one port at my desk at home and none if I were traveling.
Man...I must be doing my iMac wrong
.Glad I picked up a late 2015 fully maxed. Not sure how this would work for me if they had released a new iMac with only 4 TB3 ports. I would have needed a lot of adapters...
The end user need not ever have to give a hoot about tech specs. The devices should just work consistently and perfectly especially at their premium price point. That's what good design is about.What's that mate? We can't hear you!
Really there are a lot of people here who don't understand the technical side of Intels chips and architecture...
But this is an Apple based forum, so a lack of technical knowledge comes with the territory I suppose
1. Space on the iPhone is much more of an issue - and they included an 3.5mm adapter, so no issue there.There is no SD Card slot...
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But they didn't dump 3.5mm did they? No, they only dumped it on the iPhone with some BS excuse while actually keeping it on the new MBP. Hypocritical a**wipes.
2. There is no Lightning port on a Mac - so Apple made it possible to keep legacy speakers. No issue there.
Why the complaint???
Your question is better phrased as "is there a 13" laptop in existence with inconsistent lanes of TB3?"
I'm willing to bet it's none of those. I think they ran out of development time to find a workaround/fix/solution for this limitation. Based on limitations like this in the past disappearing in the next year's revisions, I bet this one too will no longer be present in the 2017 model.
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What he's talking about is no revisions to the Mac Mini in 2 years and the Mac Pro in 3 years. That means Apple doesn't really want to sell desktops anymore; that's pretty much indisputable or they'd have updated them. But they have to keep selling desktops because you can't develop for iOS on a PC (unless you build a hackintosh) because not all companies want the liability or expense of laptops.
Dang, that was to the point. And sadly, I can't disagree.
The MacBook Pro has much better graphics (dual 5K display!) and unbelievable SSD performance, but the price hike + the cost just to utilize those ports is just too high. In a few years when USB-C is more mainstream. If Apple was going to put out a computer this, um, "forward thinking" they should have compensated in some way (include some adaptors?), but not only did they NOT compensate, they increased the price to discourage adoption
I get that this PCIe thing is hardware limit, but it seems un-Apple like. The old Apple would have (in my opinion) had the bandwidth dynamically update. So 2 of the 4 are limited, but the first two you plug into (on whatever side) get full performance (like how they didn't have separate ports for USB 2 and 3).
This story plus the fact that a "Pro" laptop tops a 16GB because they (1) didn't use DDR4 and/or (2) had to make it thinner is really a slap in the face. The MacBook is for thinness, the MacBook Pro is for power.
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I was even expecting a USB-C to USB-A adaptor. Like I mentioned in another post, if you are going to be this "forward thinking" on a product, you can compensate in some way (like offering adaptors). Not only did Apple not compensate, but they increased the price! That additional cost would have been less painful if I was getting a USB-A and HDMI adaptor (which would cost $79 on its own).
Plus, their current adaptors don't seem MacBook Pro-ready. They don't offer the recommended charging and have limited HDMI bandwidth for whatever reason.
That's not the same post you had in underlined bold previously that this other poster failed to 'hear' (He hears text apparently)
Technically design doesn't really play a factor here. The Laptop looks sexy but it didn't break Intel's laws of performance.
Mostly likely. I seen an 13" laptop with inconsistent lanes of TB2 as well. Even USB-A.
i have been using Apple since 1986.
When i see some people defending what I cannot defend, i start to understand the word "fanboy"
I am going to buy a MBP, just the old gen.
I am not going to pay Apple what they are asking for this thing.
Sorry!
When i see some people defending what I cannot defend, i start to understand the word "fanboy"
I am going to buy a MBP, just the old gen.
I am not going to pay Apple what they are asking for this thing.
Sorry!
I have one question. Is this in the "manual" or ONLY accessible on MacRumours due to investigative journalism and concatenating several site's reports?
That was NOT PRSI.
Analog kid liked #24.
That was NOT PRSI.
Analog kid liked #24.
Not sure how much people will care with a 13 inch laptop. They are underpowered anyway compared to the 15 inch, the screen has less usable real estate etc etc. It's a premium Macbook Air to my mind, portability and style come first, so to me this is a non-story. The ridiculous pricetag is the real story.
Crappy move but it probably saved the company 12 cents, so understandable with Timmy at the helm.
Good Idea. I Brought the 27" 5K iMac with 8 gb of memory and 2TB hard drive. Makes sense to just wait on a new iPad & MBP. Just made up my mind to follow your lead and max out the memory for a couple of hundred bucks. Maybe even buy one of the newest version iWatches. That way I can just pocket the 3 or 4 grand difference as my iPhone 6S 64 gb is holding up rather well. My 21" iMac and other 2 6S iPhones were a good insider purchase it seems. I was right about the iPhone 7 & 7S. They were not worth the upgrade unless you do not have a good camera. Heck, with the MBP new prices I can even justify buying a second 27" 5K iMac to use as a iMac Desktop Server or Front End Security Server for all my devices..especially since I think that Apple is not going to WOW us until 2018 like a Federal source said several months ago.Man...I must be doing my iMac wrong
Glad I picked up a late 2015 fully maxed. Not sure how this would work for me if they had released a new iMac with only 4 TB3 ports. I would have needed a lot of adapters...
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What would you rather? 4 ports with 2 at full TB3 and two others, or only 2 ports at full tb3, or 4 ports none at full bandwidth? The last two options are "consistent" but poorer options.
I don't think there is even another 13" with 2 full lanes of TB3. You are complaining about something that's not technically possible with Intels architecture.
This is a perfect example of whining for whining sake.
Tell me what you are missing out on? If you need 4 full lanes of TB3 could you not upgrade to the next model?
Or are you entitled to everything in the top of the range model if you buy the entry level?
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