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THIS is what a PRO computer is supposed to look like. Make an updated version of this. I don't give a damn if its thinner.
 
Agreed, but since there are 4 ports on the new models (2 on the base) you can use an unpowered hub and plug the charger in directly.

Agreed. But many website articles recommend you purchase a powered hub for convenience. At best it will charge your system slower and at worst break something.
 
Well, until Wi-Fi is the standard and Ethernet is considered obsolete, I feel the necessary connection method should be offered on equipment. The vendor is supposed to meet the needs of the customer. Otherwise you have a classic case of the tail wagging the dog.
Under your philosophy, nothing would ever become obsolete, because as long as new shipping devices support them, they are "current." It's classic chicken-and-egg and is exactly why old technologies such as VGA hung around long after they were supplanted by better standards. Heck we'd probably still be using PS/2-style mouse and keyboard ports on the Windows side (they don't need the bandwidth of even USB 1.0).
 
What I don't understand is why they didn't add a female lighting port so that iPhone 7/7+ users don't have to carry two sets of earphones.

People might think it's a charge port like their iPhone, and try to charge their MBP with it?
People might wonder why there's no lightning to lightning cable so they can charge their phone through the MBP's lightning port?
People might wonder why there's no lightning to lightning cable so they can connect their phone to iTunes?

Think of the amount of computer illiterate people out there. Think of the questions Apple Stores will get asked those questions on a daily basis.
 
You know that those two ports are still operating at Thunderbolt 2 speeds and support full USB-C charging, right? So if they did what you suggested you wouldn't be able to charge from either side.

OH THE HORROR!!!!
Seriously. So what ?

That's pretty much the case with both the old and new models. It's just that the new MacBook Pros require different adapters. The MacBook Pro hasn't had Ethernet in years. Instead of plugging in a TB2 or USB-A to Ethernet or mDP to VGA/DP, you use USB-C to Ethernet or VGA/DP/HDMI adapter or cable.

I think you mean: "the new MacBook Pros require more adapters."
 
Is MacRumors just trollling us now. They know people are already ready to blow their lid about dongles and they post a whole article about it? You are just messing with us now.
 
And my wife has never plugged anything into the USB port of her laptop.
We file share wirelessly
We backup wirelessly
we print wirelessly
we access the internet wirelessly
Our phones back themselves up wirelessly
we share screens wirelessly on the Apple TV
and when I update my laptop I will also use "hand-off", wirelessly
and so on.

And we know a number of people like that.

Apple understands YOUR needs are no longer the majority, and neither are mine (I have USB logic analysers, oscilloscope interfaces, eprom programmers, arduino development systems and a huge collection of 1980s computers I am slowly repairing).

The majority of Apples users are NO Mac owners and the majority of Mac users are NOT programmers, engineers , video editors, etc etc.

Times have changed.

Or perhaps they could make the 'Pro' lineup as people want them, and people who don't need all that can get the Retina MacBook line.

I doubt very much that your wife would complain if a few ports she doesn't use are still there so long as the ones she might use are.

Then everyone can be happy and get all the work done that they need.
 
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Thought of getting an iPad Pro?

Yep, many times. Neither runs Matlab nor ArcGIS (or rather Parallels, for that matter), to name a few of the programs I'm using.

You know, there are "Pro users" out there who still don't need tons of different devices with all possible kinds of input methods all. the. time. Strange and hard to believe, eh?

Besides, I REALLY don't wanna type long texts (such as scientific papers) on a virtual keyboard, nor on that smartcover keyboard. There's NOTHING like a real keyboard when it comes to long and intensive writing.
 
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I already run a egpu (gtx 1070) to my Mac mini and even over TB1 the results are excellent.

For prices to drop the PC mob have to make TB go mainstream, and the biggest hope is external GPUs , so yeah there might be hope. I love the TB interface, but am running an egpu, majority users don't care though .

Value for money I'd go nas over TB backup , TB back up is just way too expansive at present

What are you doing with that combo of Mini and 1070? I'm just curious of your use case.
 
Sorry but most users do not own TB gear, they will be transferring at usb3 speeds while having to use a dongle.

Vast majority of users will see zero benefit from tb3 as they never maxed the bandwidth of TB1.

But a lot of people do use TB. And each TB port permits daisy chaining multiple TB devices - up to six devices IIRC. And multiple 5K displays at 60 Hz refresh rate. Sweet...

For those that want to interface their USB drives simply use a USB C to USB A inline adapter - tiny and only $9 at Monoprice. Or just use a USB-C USB-A cable.

Transitions are never easy. People whined when Apple got rid of SCSI for FW, and then whined retiring FW.
 
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They are called zip-lock plastic bags.
Each cable goes into their own bag with what it is written on it. All the bagged video cables go into another bigger bag. All the networking ones in another bigger bag, etc etc etc. Keeps them tidy, easy to find, and you leave the bag next to your computer so you remember to get you cable and pack it away.

Easy, Cheap, effective.

Nice thing too, if you are looking at people for jobs, look for the guy who carries solutions with him rather than a chip on the shoulder, they will be far more effective.
Am I the only one who thought this was satire while reading the first paragraph?
 
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Let's change the scenery!

It's a good day to see the gold rose outside of my home. It's lovely outside.

Let's breathe in...breathe out...again.
 
It's pretty ironic! The iPhone 7 requires a male lightning to female 3.5mm to plug into an aux cable, and the new MacBook Pro requires a female lightning to male 3.5mm adapter to listen to lightning headphones!

We are comparing a phone and laptop??? You are telling me people who can afford a $700+ phone and a $2000+ laptop is strapped to buy premium wireless headphones to use with both? Or premium wired headphone to use with a pro machine. And leave the crappy lightning ones for their iPhone?
 
View attachment 669757 THIS is what a PRO computer is supposed to look like. Make an updated version of this. I don't give a damn if its thinner.
Well a lot of us do. I don't like carrying around a bulky computer.

Few of us ever need all those ports, particularly all at one time. I'd rather have a flexible port and carry the adapters I know I'll need when I travel with it rather than lug around a bunch of ports I'll never use or don't need that day.
 
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Lots of crying about increasing dongles. This is what most here seem to be missing.



If Apple makes this move, in a year or two, all of your devices can have the same cable. Wouldn't it be awesome to have a single cable work for your phone, your watch, your hard drive, your monitor, your network, and all your devices?

Or would you really like to continue needing a different cable for everything you use?

I've been waiting since 2012 for Thunderbolt to become widely used and cheap. Still waiting. Prices for TB docks or hard drives are still exceedingly expensive. But hopefully now it's integrated into USB-C, the industry will finally catch up in 3 years. When this MBP finally makes sense.
 
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A Thunderbolt 3 external drive is significantly faster than a USB 3 drive (the latter can't keep up with today's faster SSDs).
USB 3.1 can (including on type A). But anyway, the poster's point was that everything should go wireless, which Thunderbolt 3 clearly isn't.
 
Well having a magical extension cable that Apple gave me I was able to overcome this most heinous of obstacles......oh........wait......
Not always an option (although you can still get the extension cable). I travel light, and rarely ever traveled with the extension cable. Besides, once USB-C ports become ubiquitous (like USB-A ports are now) at places like airports and hotels, it would be nice to top up from either side.
 
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