Agreed, but since there are 4 ports on the new models (2 on the base) you can use an unpowered hub and plug the charger in directly.
Under your philosophy, nothing would ever become obsolete, because as long as new shipping devices support them, they are "current." It's classic chicken-and-egg and is exactly why old technologies such as VGA hung around long after they were supplanted by better standards. Heck we'd probably still be using PS/2-style mouse and keyboard ports on the Windows side (they don't need the bandwidth of even USB 1.0).Well, until Wi-Fi is the standard and Ethernet is considered obsolete, I feel the necessary connection method should be offered on equipment. The vendor is supposed to meet the needs of the customer. Otherwise you have a classic case of the tail wagging the dog.
What I don't understand is why they didn't add a female lighting port so that iPhone 7/7+ users don't have to carry two sets of earphones.
You know that those two ports are still operating at Thunderbolt 2 speeds and support full USB-C charging, right? So if they did what you suggested you wouldn't be able to charge from either side.
That's pretty much the case with both the old and new models. It's just that the new MacBook Pros require different adapters. The MacBook Pro hasn't had Ethernet in years. Instead of plugging in a TB2 or USB-A to Ethernet or mDP to VGA/DP, you use USB-C to Ethernet or VGA/DP/HDMI adapter or cable.
And now we have 4 ports that EACH do everything that whole collection of ports could do.
Ugh... nickel & dimes, nickel & dimes.
And my wife has never plugged anything into the USB port of her laptop.
We file share wirelessly
We backup wirelessly
we print wirelessly
we access the internet wirelessly
Our phones back themselves up wirelessly
we share screens wirelessly on the Apple TV
and when I update my laptop I will also use "hand-off", wirelessly
and so on.
And we know a number of people like that.
Apple understands YOUR needs are no longer the majority, and neither are mine (I have USB logic analysers, oscilloscope interfaces, eprom programmers, arduino development systems and a huge collection of 1980s computers I am slowly repairing).
The majority of Apples users are NO Mac owners and the majority of Mac users are NOT programmers, engineers , video editors, etc etc.
Times have changed.
Thought of getting an iPad Pro?
OH THE HORROR!!!!
Seriously. So what ?
I already run a egpu (gtx 1070) to my Mac mini and even over TB1 the results are excellent.
For prices to drop the PC mob have to make TB go mainstream, and the biggest hope is external GPUs , so yeah there might be hope. I love the TB interface, but am running an egpu, majority users don't care though .
Value for money I'd go nas over TB backup , TB back up is just way too expansive at present
Sorry but most users do not own TB gear, they will be transferring at usb3 speeds while having to use a dongle.
Vast majority of users will see zero benefit from tb3 as they never maxed the bandwidth of TB1.
Am I the only one who thought this was satire while reading the first paragraph?They are called zip-lock plastic bags.
Each cable goes into their own bag with what it is written on it. All the bagged video cables go into another bigger bag. All the networking ones in another bigger bag, etc etc etc. Keeps them tidy, easy to find, and you leave the bag next to your computer so you remember to get you cable and pack it away.
Easy, Cheap, effective.
Nice thing too, if you are looking at people for jobs, look for the guy who carries solutions with him rather than a chip on the shoulder, they will be far more effective.
It's pretty ironic! The iPhone 7 requires a male lightning to female 3.5mm to plug into an aux cable, and the new MacBook Pro requires a female lightning to male 3.5mm adapter to listen to lightning headphones!
not sure where you are buying - more like $10s and $20s.....(and $100s...)
Says someone who's never traveled or used a desk where the nearest plug was on the "wrong" side for your power cord to reach.
Well a lot of us do. I don't like carrying around a bulky computer.View attachment 669757 THIS is what a PRO computer is supposed to look like. Make an updated version of this. I don't give a damn if its thinner.
It's more like future -poof-.All I know is I bought that 27 inch 5k iMac when it came out and there aren't any USB-C ports. So much for "future proof."
Lots of crying about increasing dongles. This is what most here seem to be missing.
If Apple makes this move, in a year or two, all of your devices can have the same cable. Wouldn't it be awesome to have a single cable work for your phone, your watch, your hard drive, your monitor, your network, and all your devices?
Or would you really like to continue needing a different cable for everything you use?
USB 3.1 can (including on type A). But anyway, the poster's point was that everything should go wireless, which Thunderbolt 3 clearly isn't.A Thunderbolt 3 external drive is significantly faster than a USB 3 drive (the latter can't keep up with today's faster SSDs).
Not always an option (although you can still get the extension cable). I travel light, and rarely ever traveled with the extension cable. Besides, once USB-C ports become ubiquitous (like USB-A ports are now) at places like airports and hotels, it would be nice to top up from either side.Well having a magical extension cable that Apple gave me I was able to overcome this most heinous of obstacles......oh........wait......