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Thunderbolt 3/USB-C Adapters, Cables, and Hubs for New MacBook Pro
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You know that those two ports are still operating at Thunderbolt 2 speeds and support full USB-C charging, right? So if they did what you suggested you wouldn't be able to charge from either side.
My printer and scanner are wireless. And since printers, scanners, monitors, drives, etc. tend to be on desks and not mobile, a hub makes the most sense regardless of the port on a notebook.
That's pretty much the case with both the old and new models. It's just that the new MacBook Pros require different adapters. The MacBook Pro hasn't had Ethernet in years. Instead of plugging in a TB2 or USB-A to Ethernet or mDP to VGA/DP, you use USB-C to Ethernet or VGA/DP/HDMI adapter or cable.
Sorry but most users do not own TB gear, they will be transferring at usb3 speeds while having to use a dongle.
Vast majority of users will see zero benefit from tb3 as they never maxed the bandwidth of TB1.
Agreed, but since there are 4 ports on the new models (2 on the base) you can use an unpowered hub and plug the charger in directly.
http://www.apple.com/shop/product/HJKF2ZM/A/belkin-usb-c-to-gigabit-ethernet-adapter
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Now that some PCs offer TB3 we will see more TB3 accessories such as external hard drives, which are great for fast backups. We might also finally see some decent external monitors with GPUs to satisfy those who want gaming while at their desktops.
I honestly think that Apple's expectation is:
The other problem is that there is a catch-22. By offering "common" USB as well as USB-C, then USB-C will continue to be a niche, costly solution. Why? Companies choose the lowest common denominator. Windows developers still release 32-bit software, for example, and you still run into the occasional driver in Windows that requires a 32-bit OS (64-bit Windows has been available since XP and today's computers nearly all come with 4 GB minimal RAM which requires 64-bit). Remember Firewire? It was, most would tell you, better than USB but only available on Macs (with a small list of exceptions) and those same Macs had USB. Why manufacture a Firewire device for a limited audience when a USB version is nearly as good and has so many more potential customers? Firewire never really caught on besides higher-end video equipment. Things like external drives that did support it always cost an additional $50-100.
But forcing USB-C now means that the 2017 and 2018 MacBooks will have a lot of choices for dongles and chargers and, in fact, may not require them because more devices may have native USB-C and/or Thunderbolt 3 connectivity. Unfortunately, the MacBook Pro 2016 buyers are paying for the privilege of early adoption--both in the cost of the MacBook Pro and the cost of connecting it to anything else out there.
- Thin and light for travel between locations (home to work; vacation; etc.)
- Dock and dongles for areas of extended work (home; office)
The other problem is that there is a catch-22. By offering "common" USB as well as USB-C, then USB-C will continue to be a niche, costly solution. Why? Companies choose the lowest common denominator. Windows developers still release 32-bit software, for example, and you still run into the occasional driver in Windows that requires a 32-bit OS (64-bit Windows has been available since XP and today's computers nearly all come with 4 GB minimal RAM which requires 64-bit). Remember Firewire? It was, most would tell you, better than USB but only available on Macs (with a small list of exceptions) and those same Macs had USB. Why manufacture a Firewire device for a limited audience when a USB version is nearly as good and has so many more potential customers? Firewire never really caught on besides higher-end video equipment. Things like external drives that did support it always cost an additional $50-100.
But forcing USB-C now means that the 2017 and 2018 MacBooks will have a lot of choices for dongles and chargers and, in fact, may not require them because more devices may have native USB-C and/or Thunderbolt 3 connectivity. Unfortunately, the MacBook Pro 2016 buyers are paying for the privilege of early adoption--both in the cost of the MacBook Pro and the cost of connecting it to anything else out there.
To be fair, in time most accessories will have the USB-C standard anyway. Apple is just helping catalyze that process.
Slow and unreliable compared to USB 3 (or even gigabit Ethernet to a local NAS).
If you're happy with a heavily H.264 compressed 1080p image, good for you. I bet not many users of external monitors are though.
It's pretty ironic! The iPhone 7 requires a male lightning to female 3.5mm to plug into an aux cable, and the new MacBook Pro requires a female lightning to male 3.5mm adapter to listen to lightning headphones!
Ultimately they are pushing a wireless world. Imposing a cost (financial and aesthetic) to using legacy devices is a psychological way to get there.
That said, older Macs with things plugged directly into the TB2, USB-A, SD, and MagSafe ports didn't look all that minimalist. A hub is a much more elegant solution, and now we have universal hubs since USB-C and TB3 are capable of delivering data, video, audio, and power, instead of just one like most of the legacy ports.
Let me guess.... this thread will be filled with a bunch of whiners that Apple is too quick to leave older tech behind. USB-C/Thunderbolt has been unified. It's the present and future. You bought a premium brand laptop for thousands. but are crying about upgrading your other equipment also? Really?
A Thunderbolt 3 external drive is significantly faster than a USB 3 drive (the latter can't keep up with today's faster SSDs).
The Mac Rumors community is making this very positive and optimistic person cynical. I'm finding it harder and harder to empathize with my fellow posters as they continue to complain endlessly about the most trivial of matters.
Sure there are things I'd like to see different and I would definitely appreciate more frequent refreshes to the hardware. Part of my cynicism is I see overlap between the "we need a refresh of the Macs every year with latest processors" and the "$25 for an adapter??!?" crowd. As someone who upgrades all of my hardware as often as a newer version is released and would be comfortable with the investment to do that every year if it were an option, I know that $25 for a new USB-C to lightning cable is meaningless to me.
Basically, if you are clamoring for new Macs every year and simultaneously complaining about the price of adapters, I just don't find you credible. This place may be making me a worse human being.
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Sure there are things I'd like to see different and I would definitely appreciate more frequent refreshes to the hardware. Part of my cynicism is I see overlap between the "we need a refresh of the Macs every year with latest processors" and the "$25 for an adapter??!?" crowd. As someone who upgrades all of my hardware as often as a newer version is released and would be comfortable with the investment to do that every year if it were an option, I know that $25 for a new USB-C to lightning cable is meaningless to me.
Basically, if you are clamoring for new Macs every year and simultaneously complaining about the price of adapters, I just don't find you credible. This place may be making me a worse human being.
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Mac Pro (updated) hasn't come out yet...so i'll hold my judgement on how it's gonna work. Yes...it sounds like wireless route now.
Lots of crying about increasing dongles. This is what most here seem to be missing.
If Apple makes this move, in a year or two, all of your devices can have the same cable. Wouldn't it be awesome to have a single cable work for your phone, your watch, your hard drive, your monitor, your network, and all your devices?
Or would you really like to continue needing a different cable for everything you use?
If Apple makes this move, in a year or two, all of your devices can have the same cable. Wouldn't it be awesome to have a single cable work for your phone, your watch, your hard drive, your monitor, your network, and all your devices?
Or would you really like to continue needing a different cable for everything you use?
I want one that supports pass through charging (as well as HDMI & 2 USB 3.1 ports), but most of the ones I see on Amazon for around $60 only provide about 29 watts. Since the new MacBook Pro needs 61 watts or more, that obviously won't work. Only the $150 one listed here supplies enough at 80 watts. I would assume the Apple ones do, but it doesn't say...
Anybody aware, or have a recommendation that is 60+ watts?
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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/co...&m=Y&c3api=1876,92051677682,&is=REG&A=details
This one provides 65 watts & is $133, so I guess that's the price to beat.
Anybody aware, or have a recommendation that is 60+ watts?
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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/co...&m=Y&c3api=1876,92051677682,&is=REG&A=details
This one provides 65 watts & is $133, so I guess that's the price to beat.
Well, until Wi-Fi is the standard and Ethernet is considered obsolete, I feel the necessary connection method should be offered on equipment. The vendor is supposed to meet the needs of the customer. Otherwise you have a classic case of the tail wagging the dog.
I already run a egpu (gtx 1070) to my Mac mini and even over TB1 the results are excellent.
For prices to drop the PC mob have to make TB go mainstream, and the biggest hope is external GPUs , so yeah there might be hope. I love the TB interface, but am running an egpu, majority users don't care though .
Value for money I'd go nas over TB backup , TB back up is just way too expansive at present
Or this crap.
Why is there a retractable cup holder in this picture and why is it USB powered?
