One more problem with all of this: Apple is banking on Lightning, and they're banking on USB-C. This is creating a ridiculous overlap where EarPods can't be plugged into Macs and iPhones can't be plugged into Macs. I feel as though (and this is going to piss off a lot of people) Apple needs to ditch Lightning and make the iPhone use USB-C.
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Thunderbolt 3/USB-C Adapters, Cables, and Hubs for New MacBook Pro
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I'm picturing Suckfest 9001 wandering around an office constantly plugging a laptop into multiple different devices only to move again to plug into more devices in a different location.
I greatly enjoyed the hyperbole.
A lot of people, including myself, carry their laptops in a thin sleeve. It's a bit more difficult for portability and for compatibility when you need to consider bringing around dongles with you to connect to basic devices. The fact that they actually cost money despite the ridiculously high pricing adds salt on the wound.
This. And if the dock breaks (stuff happens) I'm hosed as I can't connect any of my other devices. So now I have to have a spare dock just in case the main dock dies. Sounds like fun.
That's a great reply, thanks for adding to the conversation
Its going in a direction you dont like.
And instead of charging ALL users for ports they will never use, they charge the few people who need them, and because USB-C is a standard, you a free to buy them from anyone who makes them, this is NOT apple propriety, and given that Apple charges more than other places they are unlikely to see a dime from the majority of cable sales.
Hmm. Let's see, shall we?
Yes, truly it is me being childish here. I'll leave you to your childish rant.
The market is not in a position to get rid of USB-A. "They charge the few people who need them" is a hilarious sentence to make considering practically everyone will need them, at least if you're still living in 2016-2017 and (this is the hilarious bit) want to plug in your iPhone to your MacBook or whatever other device you have laying around.
I don't blame them for going to the next generation of connector. I blame them for not including free dongle or two.
I'm sure many people would be much happier if Apple had included even one standard USB3 Type A port on the device, or even a USB-C to USB3 Type A dongle in the box.
Hope you have a spare computer in case that breaks and a spare car incase that breaks, oh and a spare house too.
Stop the histrionic "as seen on tv" crap
Right, so me stating my opinion, saying that I favour certain features over others (read: actually participating in the thread's topic) is childish, but your sarcastic "PUHWEEZE" or whatever else you typed up is not childish?
I'm going to do myself a massive favour and just add you to the ignore list. I don't have time to put up with members who honestly can't be bothered to have an adult conversation without reverting to high-school tactics in response.
Again, I just don't buy the argument that anyone is going to be overly burdened with dongles in their professional life who isn't already carrying around a fistful of connectors to be ready to work with whatever they are presented. Different experiences, different opinions, and I will accept that. In the near future I am confident that the new MacBook Pro will lighten my load.
Still have to wait the 3-4 weeks for delivery because I didn't order in the first 12 hours.
Why would this make people mad? An iphone with USB-C would be much better. There's a reason it's on the Mac.
Force everyone to buy one, even if they dont want it, just so you dont have to buy one... got it.
Exactly. I would have probably still been a little bitter about needing to bring dongles with me wherever I go, but the gesture of them including these adaptors completely would have completely changed in my mind how Apple as a company cares for their existing users.
I'd think a lot of people would probably go "but I had JUST replaced my 30-pin dock for a Lightning dock 1 year ago!"
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In the future it's going to be great, sure, but the transition was a bit harsher than I would have liked.
Also, a reasonably spec'd 15" MacBook Pro in Canada costs 4000 dollars including tax, so.... it better **** rainbows at that cost.
Congratulations on your accomplishment. I see you have graduated from third grade to high school. Everyone of the million users saw it.
And the fact you could connect your iPhone/iPad to it without needing anything other than what comes in the box.
Don't kid yourself, there is still plenty of VGA connections out there, and we have had HDMI for more than 10 years. The "in time" bit could easily be more than five years ahead - until then it's dongle mania. So why punish people?
I get it, but at the same time never expected Apple to provide the adapters in the box given their history. I do think the MacBook Pro line is about $200 overpriced, but we'll see how consumers react. I doubt it will be as vociferous as we're seeing in the comment boards. That seems to be a small but vocal community creating a lot of noise. Many people aren't going to need the Thunderbolt 2 adapter. The USB-C to A adapters are relatively inexpensive and there are third party options. And adapters were already required for Ethernet and VGA (the latter of which I see all the time).
Also Sandisk makes a USB-C flash drive that has a USB-A plug on the other end. It is quite handy.
That's another kick in the guts, yeah. Along with my Lightning EarPods not working with my MacBook Pro. I would totally replace my 3.5mm EarPods with my Lightning ones, but that compatibility oversight is a little weird.
IF Apple made their laptops $500 CHEAPER, you theory would make some sense. But Apple has made their laptops $500 MORE EXPENSIVE which means your theory is total and utter nonsense.