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Thunderbolt 3/USB-C Adapters, Cables, and Hubs for New MacBook Pro
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C to A adapters are very inexpensive and very easy to carry compared to the relative burden of carrying a laptop and charger... Doesn't seem horrible at all in that scenario- it's actually much easier to deal with than needing one for an iPhone. of course with most Bluetooth headphones, you still have to carry a cable to charge it. So either get the cheap adapter or get a usb C to micro usb cable (adapter is probably more useful to start since you can use it with all kinds of devices you encounter).
Technically CD and Blu ray are digital
But more seriously what do you do when your WiFi router gets confused and the only way to reconfigure it is with a wired connection?
What share did they have in 1998 when the iMac was introduced and made USB the new standard?
2.6%
They helped push USB. It was on the way to being a standard quickly because of external drives, cameras and printers. Within less than two years there was a couple million iMacs sold. But by then there were 50 million PCs with USB.
29 pages of "funny" posts and pointless whining, but there are two very important remarks to this article:
- AFAIK, no dock/hub currently supports the recommended 80/85W pass-through charging for the 15" MBP. The upcoming Belkin Thunderbolt 3 one will, though.
- Most docks/hubs/dongles don't support 4K at 60hz, only 30hz – which is far from ideal.
All currently available docks/hubs/dongles are made with the MacBook in mind, not the MacBook Pro. I just wish Apple had given some peripheral makers a heads up so we didn't have these annoying weeks/months of I/O-limbo.
- AFAIK, no dock/hub currently supports the recommended 80/85W pass-through charging for the 15" MBP. The upcoming Belkin Thunderbolt 3 one will, though.
- Most docks/hubs/dongles don't support 4K at 60hz, only 30hz – which is far from ideal.
All currently available docks/hubs/dongles are made with the MacBook in mind, not the MacBook Pro. I just wish Apple had given some peripheral makers a heads up so we didn't have these annoying weeks/months of I/O-limbo.
Touché on your first pointTechnically CD and Blu ray are digital
But more seriously what do you do when your WiFi router gets confused and the only way to reconfigure it is with a wired connection?
On the second point, that was a real problem. I was using the time capsule as the wifi router and had two airport extreme to extend the wifi through the house. Apple has not updated it in a while and it just was not stable. I invested in eero which does a mesh network very well. I have three routers and they have been perfectly stable. I have no ethernet dongle for my wife's macbook air and I do not connect my iMac using ethernet, so if the wifi goes down, we are down in the house. I dumped comcrap because their service was so unreliable and now use Fios. Fast and very reliable. I wish I could say that I have redundancy (with the mesh network I do in side the house), but I have one fios cable that comes into the house. If that fails....
already bought:
2x 6,- EUR Apple USB-C-to-USB-Adapter
1x 7,- EUR Apple USB-C Charge Cable (2m)
1x 10,- EUR Belkin USB-C 3.1 to Micro-B Cable (1m)
= 29 EUR total on ebay
still need:
1x 5,- EUR Apple Power Adapter Extension Cable
1x 8,- EUR Apple USB-C to Lightning Cable (1m) — might be included with new iPhone
1x 8,- EUR Apple USB-C to Lightning Cable (2m)
≈ approx. 21 EUR on ebay
nice to have:
1x Belkin Thunderbolt 3 Cable (2m) — might be included with new 4K/5K monitor
People impulse buy all kinds of cables and adapters they don't need and then auction them off as new after two months. I expect to be able to sell them in five years for the same price I paid.
All currently available docks/hubs/dongles don't support USB 3.1 Type-C or Type-A Gen 2 10Gb/s speeds (only 5Gb/s 7 yo tech).
Has anyone seen a 4+ Port USB 3.1 Gen2 Hub where all the ports support 10Gb/s? Any docks with 2 or more 10Gb/s ports (yes, type A can be 10Gb/s speed too, not just C).
Ideal Dock (for me):
TB3 in/out
2x DP 1.3/1.4 w/HDCP 2.2
1x HDMI 2.0b with HDCP 2.2
4x USB 3.1 Gen2 (2x Type-A + 2x Type-C) all 10Gb/s
1x Gb Ethernet
Audio in/out
80W+ charge passtrough
SD/SDxC card reader
Ideal dongles/adapters:
Full speed interface, non of this reduced speed nonsence. If it's a cable, do make it longer than 1'.
Most mentioned cheap C to A adapters here. The problem is, again, it's 5Gb/s only.
Full speed cables (1m or longer) TB3 or USB-C, are not cheap. Some gender changers and adaptors are not available (like female C to male A), you have to buy a cable.
No TB3 optical cable?
i would have never dreamt a computer to be thin and ports on board to "it is so thin and lighter" that u have dongles when u need them..
Come to think of it, are we really over simplifying the problem?. Its just like picking and choosing with TV network u want in apps.
Come to think of it, are we really over simplifying the problem?. Its just like picking and choosing with TV network u want in apps.
Interesting enough, I wonder if the USB-C to Lighting cable will be able to charge/transfer data much quicker to/from iPhone. I always thought that the bottleneck is the usb-2.0 part of that equation.
Sure there will be complaints about Lightning disposal. But at least it headed into the right direction. The original Thunderbolt is gone after 5 years, we're getting used to that.
But you know a few Android phones already embraced USB-C connector, right? It's been adopted much faster than Thunderbolt ever did. So getting iPhone 7 and future iOS devices jump on board is good. I can use the USB-C charger from Macbook to charge the phone, and Apple would introduce wired earpod with USB-C which I can plug DIRECTLY onto the new MBP. Beautiful!
USB-C is bound to be universal, Lightning is going nowhere but iPhone and iPad butt hole. Making accesories for both Lightning and USB-C is a massive headache for both Apple and consumers. Unless Apple is trying to become dongle company?
You can't compare the Thunderbolt connector change to Lightning. There are a few hundred thousand (at most) Thunderbolt devices out there, compared to the 1 billion Lightning-enabled devices in the next couple of years. I don't think 1B devices is "going nowhere".
Also, USB-C is bigger, and the receiving port is less robust than Lightning.
Please, don't use this pic. It's insulting. Steve is not a TONER HEAD/DONGLE HEAD. Here's the appropriate pic:
One cable at 2.3 oz that does EVERYTHING - https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FWT7MEK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
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A lot of effort for a poor sense of humor. If you actually tracked typical usage you will find that the need for these ports is the exception, not the norm. Having a "dongle" for times when you do need a physical connection is no where near the end of the world for the exception case and far preferable to having a bloated laptop "just in case".Please, don't use this pic. It's insulting. Steve is not a TONER HEAD/DONGLE HEAD. Here's the appropriate pic:
[doublepost=1478146571][/doublepost]Do people actually care about this or is it just another opportunity to whine about Apple? I have used Apple and PC laptops for ages and have found I use ports less and less over the years. Having a single multi-port dock for when I do need one seemed logical to me. I chose this device that weighs only 2.3 ounces. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FWT7MEK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
What are you on about? I use 3-4 ports on my Mac ALL THE TIME. I prefer ethernet over WiFi, I have a high-DPI mouse plugged in, I have a DP monitor plugged in, I use optical out for audio, and I also use SD card port to transfer images from my Canon SLR.
If you want a computer without ports, get a MacBook. This MBP they released is not a Pro computer by any means.
"the need for these ports is the exception, not the norm"... Really? The need for a USB-A port is an exception? Or an SD Card reader?
You know what's an exception, not a norm? USB-C. Very few people have anything that's USB-C and very little that you can buy is currently available in USB-C. Entire categories of hardware aren't available in USB-C.
What would the harm be in having a single USB-A 3.0 port on the side of the MBP? It's not like thinness is an issue since there are thinner laptops that have type A.
What I meant is Lightning only used by a relatively small number of devices. iPhones and iPads = 1 billion? Well then the rest = tens of billions, all of which uses micro USB. Will you see Lighting being adopted outside Apple? No.
There's always people get mad about change, but if it has to happen, at least do it right. Getting all of those messy connections into one universal port, namely USB-C is one-time only. For both Apple or non Apple, getting one standard is a good idea. By defending Lightning, Apple really prolongs consumers' confusion and suffering with various ports (and dongles).
I dare when the time comes, Apple will ditch Lightning and adopt USB-C for their iOS products. Question is, why not now? Why wait people to buy more and more Lightning accesories which will be obsolete in a few years anyway? (i.e: iPod 30 pin dock)
Sounds like you need a USB-C/TB3 hub. Not dongle(s).
I didn't say the need didn't exist, I said it wasn't very common (consider all the population). In college, I am going to guess you had Windows PCs and those didn't work with OS 7/8 back then.
Just to put things into perspective, I saw once a Seinfield episode from 1997 (AFAIK) where he says "I gotta get me one of those email things" . Internet and computers were not popular as people think they were. The point is, many people didn't have computers and those who did, didn't have multiple computers to move data to and from.
And that was the argument brought up when Apple introduced the Lightning cable. WHY, because it was a proprietary connector and Apple will/is making money off of it. Apple was not courageous when they thought the 30 pin dock adapter was obsolete to move to the universal standard (USB), they wanted their own and for good reason, so they can charge for it. And here we are, talking about the exact same thing again. I agree, that eventually Apple will move to the universal standard on the iPhone, well, maybe not, because all you need is a new cable or dongle.
cMbp had 9 I/O "ports" (including odd & magsafe).
rMbp had 8.
The new one has 4.
It's not about "the one port to rule 'em all". It's abot "one dongle for all ports or each for its own"...
I just wish that the first geek, who get the LG5kTB3-display will test if it works with apple's tb3-tp-tb1/2-dongle!
rMbp had 8.
The new one has 4.
It's not about "the one port to rule 'em all". It's abot "one dongle for all ports or each for its own"...
I just wish that the first geek, who get the LG5kTB3-display will test if it works with apple's tb3-tp-tb1/2-dongle!