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Thunderbolt 3/USB-C Adapters, Cables, and Hubs for New MacBook Pro

Can we please just get Scott Forstall back?! He's the only one who would follow Steve Jobs' philosophy.

Other than maps and the reluctance to add new features is there anything else wrong with his leadership? I think Apple needs a visionary dictator right now. Mr. Tim "collaboration" Cook is going in the wrong direction.

Not to mention Scott's iOS "just worked".
 
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OldSchoolMacGuy said:
You don't seem to understand how engineers work, what they require (GPU isn't it), and don't have a personal need for any of this. Stop crying about it. It has no impact on you that Apple isn't pushing eGPU.
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Actually, my brother is an engineer and a laptop with a Xeon and workstation level graphics (which could be used via TB3) is what is needed for his programs. Are you an engineer or did you get up on the wrong side of bed this morning?
 
Cuban Missles said:
On the second point, that was a real problem. I was using the time capsule as the wifi router and had two airport extreme to extend the wifi through the house. Apple has not updated it in a while and it just was not stable. I invested in eero which does a mesh network very well. I have three routers and they have been perfectly stable. I have no ethernet dongle for my wife's macbook air and I do not connect my iMac using ethernet, so if the wifi goes down, we are down in the house. I dumped comcrap because their service was so unreliable and now use Fios. Fast and very reliable. I wish I could say that I have redundancy (with the mesh network I do in side the house), but I have one fios cable that comes into the house. If that fails....
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When I extended my network with an airport express connected to my airport extreme it took a couple of attempts, which would have been problematic without my trusty ethernet cable. The same thing applied when upgrading my VirginMedia "super hub".
 
00sjsl said:
When I extended my network with an airport express connected to my airport extreme it took a couple of attempts, which would have been problematic without my trusty ethernet cable. The same thing applied when upgrading my VirginMedia "super hub".
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I eventually got mine to work, but the problem is that because it is not a mesh approach the speed and reliability drops off quickly. the system I have now has a more consistent speed no matter where I am in the house (4 total floors). It also seems to be better able to handle the conflicts with all my neighbors and other wifi's in the area. I was a big fan of doing everything Apple, but I also wanted something better and since Apple's wifi system hasn't been updated in many years, I found some newer and better technology in the system I purchased. My guess is that like with Displays, Apple is slowly leaving this space and leaving it to others.
 
Val-kyrie said:
Actually, my brother is an engineer and a laptop with a Xeon and workstation level graphics (which could be used via TB3) is what is needed for his programs. Are you an engineer or did you get up on the wrong side of bed this morning?
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I am an engineer. Those of us that need that type of power aren't who Apple is targeting. If you need that power you're going to have to go elsewhere. This has ALWAYS been the case with all Apple laptops.
 
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dotsmada44 said:
The problem with that thinking is believing that Apple has any clout in trying to push a standard in a market where they only have a 7% share of.
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7% consisting of people who demonstrated they are willing to put their hand in their pocket.
 
Oh yeah?
And which of those adapters can I use to connect my Apple DVD player/burner to my theoretical new MacBook Pro?

Because all the ones I've looked at, many of which you have reviewed about (without actually checking how well they function I noticed) won't work.

So how do I watch DVD's on the road?
How do I burn discs?
 
I'm a really loyal apple fan, but I'm also a rational person. For the first time, I hopelessly fell apple really messed up this round of release. I think apple's problem is getting unmanageable.

Tim can be a great COO and a VP of supply chain, but he is not and he will never become the brain and heart of Apple.

What apple needs is not time, not patient from customers, not fancy marketing, but a visionary who is competent enough to envision and guide Apple in next 50 years. Someone who can sell products in simple plain paper envelopes. Someone who can define the future of computing while presenting products that seamlessly transitions from the past industry standards. Someone who lust engineering perfection in products while understanding business economics. Someone who is a system builder that integrates all the service and products within the Ecosystem to provide an ease of mind for customers (starting by allowing iPhones to be plugged into Macbooks, Apple ear pods to be plugged into Macs, Mac standard USB-c to be plugged into IOS devices). Someone who leads, someone who creates, someone who can be the center of Apple - the Apple core, just like Steve.

Apple's outcome today was theorized by Steve decades ago. You can skip to 25:44s to see Steve's explanation of the fall of a great company or watch the entire interview. Link is here ---https://youtu.be/TRZAJY23xio?t=25m44s


My deepest condolences to Apple - once a miracle of greatness, no longer.
 
RHD 42 said:
Oh yeah?
And which of those adapters can I use to connect my Apple DVD player/burner to my theoretical new MacBook Pro?

Because all the ones I've looked at, many of which you have reviewed about (without actually checking how well they function I noticed) won't work.

So how do I watch DVD's on the road?
How do I burn discs?
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What's the model # of your burner?
 
johngwheeler said:
The MS Surface has an SD card reader behind the kickstand.
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micro sd card. still need the sd adapter for most card readers. i fond behind the kickstand t be a pita when i had one. micro sd good for phones, bad for note books and tablets imho.
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ateslik said:
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$39.99 and more ports than a Macbook Pro. That's just sad.
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good old raspberry pi..... 64.00 complete with shell and linux os. put 2 of these together as in-store video point of sales.
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OldSchoolMacGuy said:
I am an engineer. Those of us that need that type of power aren't who Apple is targeting. If you need that power you're going to have to go elsewhere. This has ALWAYS been the case with all Apple laptops.
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hate to burst bubbles, but i 100% agree with this. i was told by apple on the phone and in store the following:

via phone support.... macs are not made to be pushed to the limits. they are designed to be be used with a minimum amount of stress on the cpu. if pushed, your mac will not behave as it should and lock up or shut down.
via in store..... nothing less than an imac with i7 or 15" mac pro with discrete graphics card will be able to function without any problems.... but at that price point your not far off a mac pro.

what would prompt such replies.....
1. a simple yes command stress test to see if all cores and threads would fire up. 1 core and 1 thread would hit 100%, core 2 wouldnt go above 90% and thread 2 above 85%. prompted a call to tech support which netted above answer.

2. store answer was in response to what could handle photoshop and light room for photo editing.

to make it even worse, 3 calls to tech support and 2 visit to genius bar got me deer in the head light stares with no answer at all.
 
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kb3tzt said:
micro sd card. still need the sd adapter for most card readers. i fond behind the kickstand t be a pita when i had one. micro sd good for phones, bad for note books and tablets imho.
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good old raspberry pi..... 64.00 complete with shell and linux os. put 2 of these together as in-store video point of sales.
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hate to burst bubbles, but i 100% agree with this. i was told by apple on the phone and in store the following:

via phone support.... macs are not made to be pushed to the limits. they are designed to be be used with a minimum amount of stress on the cpu. if pushed, your mac will not behave as it should and lock up or shut down.
via in store..... nothing less than an imac with i7 or 15" mac pro with discrete graphics card will be able to function without any problems.... but at that price point your not far off a mac pro.

what would prompt such replies.....
1. a simple yes command stress test to see if all cores and threads would fire up. 1 core and 1 thread would hit 100%, core 2 wouldnt go above 90% and thread 2 above 85%. prompted a call to tech support which netted above answer.

2. store answer was in response to what could handle photoshop and light room for photo editing.

to make it even worse, 3 calls to tech support and 2 visit to genius bar got me deer in the head light stares with no answer at all.
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I can accept this but it is also why I have become increasingly frustrated with Apple. Now we need disclaimers: use your Mac up to 75% of its capability, but don't work it too hard or it will overheat, lock up, and maybe even shut down! Am I using a Mac or playing Mech Assault / Mech Warrior?
 
Val-kyrie said:
I can accept this but it is also why I have become increasingly frustrated with Apple. Now we need disclaimers: use your Mac up to 75% of its capability, but don't work it too hard or it will overheat, lock up, and maybe even shut down! Am I using a Mac or playing Mech Assault / Mech Warrior?
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What a load of nonsense. If a Mac or a PC lock up or shut down then they have a hardware issue. Hardware has been designed to throttle for many years when it hits its thermal envelope. Intel even made a "feature" of it with Turbo Boost. Fantasist crap
 
imola.zhp said:
What I don't understand is why they didn't add a female lighting port so that iPhone 7/7+ users don't have to carry two sets of earphones.
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Because iPhone 7 buyers already lost. They should just suck it up and buy AirPods and enjoy that mediocre sound quality at a high price. It works with your equally expensive yet useless Macbook Pro.
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zhenya said:
The irony is that so many of you are so caught up in the group-think here that you can't see that long-term, the new Thunderbolt 3 ports will greatly streamline connectivity on the MBP. Those of you who still want your HDMI, mDP, usb-a, magsafe, etc. would have a mass of cables connected to both sides of the MacBook any time you were set up with all these peripherals. With Thunderbolt 3 you can have a dock hidden away and 1 clean cable connecting to the laptop. Even cleaner than the iMac in the picture.
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You're right, in a way. It will streamline it in 2-3 years when there are USB-C devices available. Until then you're living with a dongle hell. And please do not forget Macbook is a laptop, not a desktop replacement. Use it actually on your lap and have fun connecting all those dongles just to move stuff to or from a normal USB stick.

Or you can also throw away everything you have and just pay a few thousand extra for USB-C versions. Your choice.
 
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kb3tzt said:
hate to burst bubbles, but i 100% agree with this. i was told by apple on the phone and in store the following:

via phone support.... macs are not made to be pushed to the limits. they are designed to be be used with a minimum amount of stress on the cpu. if pushed, your mac will not behave as it should and lock up or shut down.

via in store..... nothing less than an imac with i7 or 15" mac pro with discrete graphics card will be able to function without any problems.... but at that price point your not far off a mac pro.
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Feenician said:
What a load of nonsense. If a Mac or a PC lock up or shut down then they have a hardware issue. Hardware has been designed to throttle for many years when it hits its thermal envelope. Intel even made a "feature" of it with Turbo Boost. Fantasist crap
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Exactly my point. Apple's design is a problem. According to kb3tzt, Apple has stated their hardware will lock up or shut down--not just throttle down-- if pushed hard. Is the putative Pro a work machine or not?
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kyykesko said:
Because iPhone 7 buyers already lost. They should just suck it up and buy AirPods and enjoy that mediocre sound quality at a high price. It works with your equally expensive yet useless Macbook Pro....
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Whenever the AirPods become available. What a gaff!
 
Uh oh... pro-critical dongles are lurching up and up in shipping date - 1-2 months for some.


It just works... in Spring! Merry Christmas!

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i think apple says what they do to get people to buy the most expensive model going. i looked into a pro and it had 0 issues, but at that price point i could get a nice workstation with a graphic card that wold only be limited by the processor.
i do photo editing with ps and lr. know what is filling the bill nicely.... a 2015 macbook that i ot brand new from a b&m on sale. no issues, no throttling, no problems. i think its acer that actually gives you usb-c adapters with its laptops. apple needs to take note of this, as i almost jumped ship.... but wait... it was windows, and i have o love right now for wind
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Exactly my point. Apple's design is a problem. According to kb3tzt, Apple has stated their hardware will lock up or shut down--not just throttle down-- if pushed hard. Is the putative Pro a work machine or not?
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Whenever the AirPods become available. What a gaff!
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ows.

has anyone even got btooth headsets to work??? ive found with early attempts by companies to be weak at best. either the sound stunk or the ear buds would not pair correctly. i forget the name, but ams club sold a pair dirt cheap, but they would not stay connected. felt like i was beta testing at my expense.... i hate when companies do that.
 
i have the multi port, got it for almost half off, but i have discovered two issues....

Issue 1.... the adapter will not, and this maybe onl;y me, but it will not work or charge a 015 macbook with less than 20% battery charge. i called tech support, and not to my surprise, no issue has ever been reported. no solution to be found, have a nice day. so i got to thinking and decided to charge the macbook to 20% with the power adapter, and guess what.. it worked!! i talked to several techs in different apple stores, and they never had issues, but the mac's were charged above 50%. so if you get one, and 49 isnt bad price for apple branded, this could be a possible issue for you.

Issue 2.... my multi dock usb-3 hdd station will drop connection if you any drive with an rpm of less than 7200. only does it with the adapter, as i had many apple products before this, and none of them dropped a connection with the dock using a 5400 rpm disk.

just a heads up.
 
This article does not mention a plane and simple hub, ThunderBolt 3 in, 2-4 ThunderBolt 3 out. In other words, no USB 3.0, no HDMI.

(Aside: Why does my comment space say "Post Reply"? To whom am I replying? Why can I not simply post a comment?)

EDIT:
Aha! The "Post Reply" button is simply mislabeled. It DOES actually post a comment.
 
Face it--this sucks in 2016. By 2018, everything will be USB-C, and it will be awesome.

OUT WITH THE OLD TECH!! ... just wish it wasn't so costly.
 
Does any of you know if there is USB-C or Thunderbolt 3 to "uhs-II SD card reader" and "USB3.1" combo (both in one hub) exist?
 
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