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Re: New notebooks

Originally posted by emdezet
The current iBooks and PowerBooks are set for sell-out in Germany as of Monday. Apple says, no more notebook shipments in April.
Believe it guys, the new PBooks are flyin' in.

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We will believe it when they are either posted on the Apple Store web site, in retail channels, or in our hands.

Hey mcrain, sorry to be brutally blunt, but who gives a rat's rectum that you just hit 200 posts?? 500 is something to mention, 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000.... those are marks that you could mention... But 200??? sheeeesh, talk about easily impressed.
 
Yeah, really. C'mon on. Even I didn't make a big deal at 200. I just discussed about something in reply to someone, and put a small, cute comment in the end.

And I did it all in one post!

As for the Powerbooks, they had just better be flyin' in. And I will be waiting to see some much improved speeds.

Question: If Apple decides to improve on the Powerbook not only in speed, what else could be done? (If you want to bring up shiny colors knock yourselves out...it a rumor page :) )
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Thanks for backing me up on that King Cobra...

As for improvements/updates that I would drool over in the next PowerBook release/update/revision... how about DDR memory, ATA100/133 drive interface, 32MB or 64MB video cards (I would prefer ATI's mobile Radeon 7500 or 7800)... Of course, you know how I want Hard Chrome to be one of the finishes, or maybe black anodized/powder-coated. All three are hard finishes that won't get marred too easily, and will make them stand out from the croud. For those that want it, they could also offer a copper/gold edition, although that might be too much for the factories to pump out. Apple has typically used one finish for quite some time before switching. Just look at how long the PowerBook G3 case was around before they went to the Titanium. We probably won't see a different case until they make a new version, such as a G5 PowerBook... I would still love to have the chrome though :D.
 
In regards to pros burning onto DVD at IHOP.

DVD burning via AO3/4 may be alright for smaller projects, but DLT is a way better soluiton for pros.

Duplication houses usually require masters on DLT, or they'll glady take burned DVD's and convert it over to DLT for about $1200. Do that a couple of times and you'll find that it gets kind of expensive. Plus DLT holds a heckuva lot more.

Anyway, AO3/4 drives have a fan on the back of them, meaning they get hot!! In order to get one in a PowerBook, Pioneer needs to have it running cooler in the desktops first.
 
bluetooth fits

If apple were to release the new powerbooks/ibooks at WWDC, it would make total sense. Granted this is mostly based on rumor, but follow me for a second. When you consider the upcoming release of 10.1.4 (rumor) and apple's newfound dedication to bluetooth capability (fact) a logical conclusion would be that something new is on the way.

I see .4 being an upgrade that starts *shipping* with the new portables. It might be available to the public, but since it would only be small bug fixes (that would have included in an update anyway) and built-in support for bluetooth it wouldn't really be necessary to release it to the general public. So new bluetooth enabled powerbooks/ibooks get released at WWDC along with 10.1.4 to include the functionality.

With all the speculation about sell-outs in this country and shipping dates at that store...it all leads a lot of hints toward an upcoming hardware release.

Since the current revB powerbook is almost 8 months old it's GOT to be the powerbook, right? RIGHT?? :rolleyes:
 
Re: New notebooks

Originally posted by emdezet
The current iBooks and PowerBooks are set for sell-out in Germany as of Monday. Apple says, no more notebook shipments in April.
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That would sync with a WWDC release. Hmm. If this happens in a few more places, I'll be more inclined to beleive that its going to show up. But this is also a good opportunity to watch and see if it does happen, aid in gauging further speculation down the road, specifically MWNY.

If anyone can remember this thread by the time WWDC rolls around. :D
 
3xtrmn8r, You're right about the DLT, but more and more replicators are taking the authoring DVDR's burned on the Pioneer S201, and even the General DVDR's are becoming more accepted. Have you seen a firewire DLT drive? Are they available? As far as I know, they don't exist yet, so if there aren't any firewire DLT drives than authoring and delivering from a laptop on anything but a DVD-R or HD, isn't going to happen. I guess that the final step will still require a desktop machine so DVD creation on a laptop will still be the realm of the amateurs, or the semi pro's making one off's on DVDR. That's not to say that it's not a good idea to have DVD burners in laptops, just that they're not really intended to be a real DVD authoring solution. A DVD burner would be nice to have to send out a copy of a video edit for review though, so the mobile FCP crowd would definitely welcome it.
 
Re: Re: New notebooks

Originally posted by AlphaTech


We will believe it when they are either posted on the Apple Store web site, in retail channels, or in our hands.

Hey mcrain, sorry to be brutally blunt, but who gives a rat's rectum that you just hit 200 posts?? 500 is something to mention, 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000.... those are marks that you could mention... But 200??? sheeeesh, talk about easily impressed.
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in a few months, 1000 posts will not be such a big deal...that will happen when eyelikeart hits 2000 or even 2500 and a few others hit 1500

about a year ago or less, posters who hit 200 were unofficially called demi-gods and they were john123, spikey, and kela, and maybe one or two others (of course, then there were just over 2,000 members on macrumors.com)
 
even more proof (rumors) of new TiBooks!!!

its getting even closer to WWDC and there are no more TiBooks being sold in Germany or Japan. i'm not sure about anywhere else in the world, and i haven't checked Apple stores here in Aus to see if they are still shipping.
have you checked out that rumor on the main page of Macrumors? it mentions that the new TiBooks might have a thicker casing. this would be able to fit a superdrive no worries. and having the larger area means that there is more room for heat dissapation.
i just hope they don't make it too much thicker...
and as for the issue of a superdrive being overkill, i for one would welcome it with open arms. i'll be using my new TiBook as my only computer. i won't have access to a desktop with superdrive, so it would be awesome it the new TiBook had it.
all these rumors are making the release of a new TiBook heaps more beliveable. soon we'll be waiting for G4 iBooks!
back to the subject of TiBook finishes, has anyone heard any rumors about chrome or any different finishes? it would be SSOOOOOO good if there was an option of a chrome TiBook!!!:D
 
cent 1 - titanium can only be annodized into red and black with weak yields

cent 2 - is superdrive worth a thicker tibook case and possibly more weight to lug around? i mean, does a tibook need to be a friggin movie studio in a backpack? it might be cool, but part of the tibook's greatness is its slim/weight factor...and i have no clue as to what should be done

my two cents:D
 
jef,

I wouldn't mind if the PowerBook G4 wasn't made from titanium in the other color versions. Although, I am sure that they would be able to hard chrome it up. Would you grab a black titanium PowerBook??? I think that many people would.

I don't need, or really want, a superdrive inside of the PowerBook G4. I think a faster cd burner would be more useful. I think that many of the video professionals, and amatures alike, that use the laptops, have external storage to fill up as they need to. It would be better, in my opinion, to just slide the files to a high powered tower to manipulate and then burn the dvd's on. That is what the dual processor towers are for.

It is also easier to store video when you have multiple drives inside the tower then trying to do it with a laptop. Considering how you can easily fit up to four (or five if you know how) hard drives into the G4 tower. There are four screw holes in the G4 tower's zip drive bay, at least there was in the versions before the QuickSilver. I will have to check my resources to see if they are still there in the QuickSilver models. I have installed zip drives into the G4's and used all four screws (two per side).

Either way, we should see some new products either at WWDC or MWNY. I just hope it is enough to satisfy at least some of our cravings for speed and performance.
 
No Superdrive Please

As a video professional who is waiting to buy an updated TiBook, I would rather Apple not include the superdrive if it means an increase in size and weight. Why? Well, most people who do this for a living have access to another computer that can burn DVDs. If you don't, lease a tower. You get to write off the entire lease payment every month and at the end of the lease you buy it or turn it in for a new computer. If you really make a living in video, the extra $150 a month isn't going to kill you. Also, you can use your desktop as a render machine if you need to. Plus, the TiBook doesn't have Level 3 cache so I would think FCP (or whatever you use) would run faster on the desktop. Please correct me if I am wrong about that. Anyway, you would still have the lightness of the TiBook and a faster system for those rare times you weren't editing/animating/compositing on a plane or a train or at the beach. One other thing. Even if the TiBook comes with a 60GB hard drive, you're going to need a lot more storage than that if you want to have multiple projects on your machine at one time. So you're going to need to lug around external FireWire drives. If you had the desktop also, you could cram in four or five drives as AlphaTech has noted. This would give you ample space to have critical media backed up in case something happened to your TiBook. Anyway, this is just my opinion, but I wanted to respond to those who say video people need/want a superdrive in the TiBook no matter what the size/weight cost.
 
As someone who makes a living authoring DVD's a tiBook with a superdrive is of no use to me. As someone who also goes on location to film his own side projects, a tiBook with a DVD burner would be great.
This is how it's supposed to work... shoot, load in the footage as lowres photoJPEG to rough edit, replace actual used shots with DV, burn your edit to DVD, fedex to client or film festival. Essentially do everything without having to come back to the studio. I know people who have rough edited entire movies while still on location.
I think what Apple is really aiming for is the above scenario as the hook to entice the amateur film makers and the travelling pros, and anyone who wants to only own a single machine (read hobbyist, students, etc.).
At first I thought that the DVD burner would be a silly addition, but the more I think about it the more I see it becoming a neccessity in the not so distant future, especially considering the growing size of todays files...remember a DVD is 4.7Gigs of data.
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I don't think the superdrive or DVD burner will go inside a TiBook until they can get the form factor down. I can't see Apple allowing the TiBook to get fatter to accomidate the superdrive. I can see them pushing Panasonic to get the drive thinner and such in order to get it to fit into the TiBook's form factor.

Of course, once that happens, all the peecee laptop makers will be pushing to have it inside of their systems. Another case of the peecee world playing follow the leader with Apple.
 
Exactly...
Let function follow form in this case and wait for the drives to become slimmer...maybe they need a diet (I know I do!).
 
Pioneer makes the Superdrive, not Panasonic.
There very well may be a new incarnation of the superdrive. The current one definitely won't even come close to fitting so there would have to be some kind of redesign. The romored thickness increase may be minimal.
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Originally posted by jefhatfield
cent 1 - titanium can only be annodized into red and black with weak yields



my two cents:D
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That's news to me. Do you have a reference for that Jeff?
 
re: colors

i wish i remember where i read it, and i also don't remember which color was easier to make

the unfortunate thing is that the colored tibooks would cost more to make...i think black would be really cool though
 
Originally posted by SPG
Pioneer makes the Superdrive, not Panasonic.
There very well may be a new incarnation of the superdrive. The current one definitely won't even come close to fitting so there would have to be some kind of redesign. The romored thickness increase may be minimal.
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My bad... I knew it started with a P at least. I had just got back from riding the Harley for a few hours and was adjusting to sitting still again. :D

As for anodizing titanium, there are many factors that come into play. There is a titanium supplier in MA that could know. I will see if I can gather any information about limitations on anodizing or plating as it pertains to Titanium.

I do know that they can be treated to get a blue color, as well as a golden one. Not sure about any others. I also seem to remember some that can be done with heat alone, and not need a chemical reaction to colorize it. Titanium is great stuff...
 
yeah, titanium is pretty good. forget about anodizing, does anyone know if titanium can be chromed? or would Apple have to change the material that the case is made from?

anyway, now it looks like Apple already has the superdrive issue sorted. apparently there won't be any change to the case. this must mean that the TiBook will have a superdrive and keep its current shape!!:D

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i was just thinking about the TiBook with a 800 or 1GHz processor. does anyone know what Apple will do to keep the temperature down? will there have to be another fan, or has some really big development of the G4 happened?
 
Temperature

I believe that the chips going into the next rev TiBook will be Apollos. Don't they use less power and thus generate less heat? How much of the heat of the current TiBook is generated by the proc? Does anyone know? Thanks.
 
From what I've found on the net Titanium can be hard chromed.... but it's alittle bit of a process.... one quote from www.finishing.com is as follows:

only way you'll really plate titanium successfully is to nickel plate it and then heat it hot enough for the nickel to diffuse into the titanium. There is an ASTM standard for this
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http://www.uschromeofca.com/titanium.html also has more information about chroming Ti, apparantly they use it on the Space Shuttle... Kewl!!

I agree with AlphaTech and Rower_CPU about the the superdrive in the TiBook, as the technology evolves it'll become smaller, and then they can squeeze it in, not make the TiBook larger.... that'd be BAD!!

I think we'll have to wait until the G5 Powerbook is released, I think by the time this happens (10 to 15 years) :p Pioneer should just have about made it small enough to fit....... As long as Apple don't make the same reduction in size again as they did from the G3 to the TiBook......:p

I wonder what would be the most popular though.....

• Current Silver colour
• Anodised Black
• Hard Chrome- all nice and shiney.....

I'll go with the chrome.......;)
 
iGAV, thanks for the links, they were a big help and interesting. 10 to 15 years for a superdrive? who wants to wait that long? i think they are alot closer than we think. i reckon there's a good chance that next TiBooks will have a superdrive.
 
CHROME!!! the battlecry of many

Just in case noone else is aware of this, but hard chroming is a two step process. The material first gets nickle plated, and then chrome plated, hence the 'hard' chrome. I had this done to several pistol magazines years back, the chrome is still there, and it only added a few thousandths of an inch to the thickness of the material.
 
Re: Re: New notebooks

Originally posted by AlphaTech
Hey mcrain, sorry to be brutally blunt, but who gives a rat's rectum that you just hit 200 posts?? 500 is something to mention, 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000.... those are marks that you could mention... But 200??? sheeeesh, talk about easily impressed.
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Actually, to be blunt right back at you, the number of posts a person has is a ludicrous thing to make a big deal about. Who gives a rats a** if you have 4000 posts? It doesn't mean anything. It certainly doesn't mean you know more than I do.

To anyone who has seen me on the boards will know, I am here to engage in intellectual discussion and to learn all I can. I'm not a computer science or computer engineering person, so I won't pretend to know about computers.

However, by your logic, because I have 200 posts, I'm smarter than someone with 2 posts, but dumber than someone with 2000 posts.

In reality, the person with 2 posts, but a computer background, knows more than the guy with no life and no education with 2000 posts.

I know sarcasm is a hard thing to express over a post, but the number of posts I have doesn't mean squat to me. The number of posts you have doesn't mean squat to me. Your experience in the subject at hand, Macs, is all I care about.

So, guess what. I don't give a rats rectum how many posts I have, and I would hope that people who are "easily impressed" by 500, 1000, 2000 or more posts aren't either, but that's probably too much to ask!
 
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