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Time for two conferences

It's past time to split into two conferences. Is there any reason why the OSX and iOS conferences cannot be separate?
 
It's past time to split into two conferences. Is there any reason why the OSX and iOS conferences cannot be separate?
Probably because the teams probably share lots of resources with each other and doing additional conferences is really disruptive as it is.
 
Probably because the teams probably share lots of resources with each other and doing additional conferences is really disruptive as it is.

Like the iCloud and iTunes store team probably has a lot of overlap. I'm sure there is more overlap but I think WWDC is probably going to stay as is for the foreseeable future. Hopefully they have more of those tech talks like they did last year (although not as good as WWDC it is something).
 
Fun personal anecdote:

I'll be flying out to WWDC on the 10th and flying back on the 15th. I have an appointment on the 16th to go skydiving. Lot's of time in a plane that week with very different results.

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It's past time to split into two conferences. Is there any reason why the OSX and iOS conferences cannot be separate?

I'm sure Apple is capable of handling 2 conferences but I don't think they want to. Apple, despite its size, operates as a small company. They want to have a (relatively) small attendance and good one-on-one interaction. It's why they introduced the developer tech talks as mini-WWDCs. Small crowd w/ quality interaction.
 
Really wish they'd bring back the IT track. Or maybe make it its own conference. It would really help we IT guys who do more of the setup, deployment & maintenance of Macs & iOS devices rather than programming.

Maybe have WWDC introduce new versions of iOS & Mac OS X from a programming perspective (i.e. new frameworks & APIs) and a WWITC for a more IT perspective.
 
I happen to check my RSS feeds and ran across an article on TUAW... proceeded to purchase my ticket. Missed out on going the last 3 years due to conflicts. A few friends out that way, looking forward to having a great time.
 
Well unless something has changed from last year those rules only apply after the ticket has been activated. Otherwise it is transferable like any other dev asset.

The web site says "WWDC tickets (including activation codes) are non-transferable and may not be sold, resold, or auctioned in any way. As an exception, requests to transfer tickets among team members may be submitted to Apple for consideration at wwdc2012@apple.com."

I always thought it sold out because of Steve Jobs. Lots of non developers just wanting to go. This proves that theory was wrong.

Steve was only ever there for the keynote. It's not like you would just bump into him in the hallway throughout the week.
 
Anyone who got a ticket is obligated to ask every Apple employee they talk to, "Where are the new Mac Pros?"

I should make t-shirts. Or picket outside of Moscone with a sign "638 days" and a picture of mine.

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It's past time to split into two conferences. Is there any reason why the OSX and iOS conferences cannot be separate?

They want it integrated so Mac developers can transition to iOS. Then they can stop making hardware they don't control every part of.
 
I was seriously considering it despite having already borrowed $35,000 for college so far... and I'm only through my first of five years! (I'm thinking if I can manage putting out 3-4 good apps per year, I should be able to bring in about $30K/year which should see me having my loans paid back within a year of graduation...)

Just out of curiosity, how many apps have you published so far? How long has each been available? What are the sales to-date?
 
For that money, I'd rather buy a new macbook...

Insane. 1600 Bucks to attend a conference.

$1600 is cheap for a five day conference.

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If Apple really wants to be fair about WWDC then they should sell blocks of tickets. Sell 1/3 on day 1, 1/3 on day 2, 1/3 on day 3 or something. Give people a chance to even get approval from bosses!

No offence, but I have a legitimate question: you knew it was going to be a race to buy the tickets. Why wouldn't you get approval from your boss before the tickets went on sale?
 
I was seriously considering it despite having already borrowed $35,000 for college so far... and I'm only through my first of five years! (I'm thinking if I can manage putting out 3-4 good apps per year, I should be able to bring in about $30K/year which should see me having my loans paid back within a year of graduation...)


Or you could just get a job and bring in 60k a year.
 
No offence, but I have a legitimate question: you knew it was going to be a race to buy the tickets. Why wouldn't you get approval from your boss before the tickets went on sale?

I've heard of iOS/Mac/Android developers who quit companies that didn't pre-approve their conference tickets (or threaten such). Top-notch mobile developers are in enough demand in some geographic regions that this just works.
 
If Apple really wants to be fair about WWDC then they should sell blocks of tickets. Sell 1/3 on day 1, 1/3 on day 2, 1/3 on day 3 or something. Give people a chance to even get approval from bosses!

We talked to our bosses about this 3 weeks ago. They did go on sale later this year, not sooner.

But yeah, maybe they should rename it the "US Eastern time zone developer's conference, held in the pacific time zone"
 
For that money, I'd rather buy a new macbook...

Insane. 1600 Bucks to attend a conference.

I actually think they should raise it to like $2999 or even $3499. This would help to weed out the people who are only attending as a "fan" to see the keynote or "just because". It's a developer's conference, not a tech expo. Most serious developers know it's not the price of the conference that matters, but it is the content. If they have built a business around iOS or Mac OS, $2999-$3499 is still fairly cheap for what you get, considering most training programs from training facilities can cost upwards of $7500 for a 3-4 day workshop.
 
If Apple really wants to be fair about WWDC then they should sell blocks of tickets. Sell 1/3 on day 1, 1/3 on day 2, 1/3 on day 3 or something. Give people a chance to even get approval from bosses!
First we need to remember that Apple being the small struggling, cash strapped company they are, cannot afford to be fair.

Second is the fact that their arrogant corporate culture, prevents them from taking outsiders into consideration, even though they're registered Apple developers.

Apple Inc., what a swell company.


(just a little sarcasm/humor to clarify the post for you serious types) :)
 
So next year you'll pretty much have to hit the "buy" button the second this is announced. It's like getting tickets to concert.

Will be sad that Steve won't be there for the first time.
 
Given the timing, I wonder if this year's WWDC will be very East Coast heavy. Folks like me are just getting up on the West Coast and reading the "already sold out" message. I'm betting I am not alone.

Totally agree! The morning I sleep in from a client dinner meeting the night before, this pops up. I'll be at a few parasite parties. I'm sure a few leaving town early will pass on their tags to other for the last day or so of the conference.

IMO, they should launch on 11 AM PST / 2 PM EST for equal footing and the fly-over types can scramble to register.

With this selling out fast, there is a business opportunity here for a "WWDC sniper" on line service where you register and the sniper server monitors incoming emails to your developer email address.

When the WWDC announcement email comes, the server is authorized to register your or at least send a text message that the WWDC event is open for registration so you can get to the registration web site if the 'bot can't work the HTML due to human UI barriers like entering an obscured text graphic. Perhaps there was something out like this already.

This is done with concert ticket sales already.

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I'd love to see a program where the registration is open but the price is an opening bid in an auction. If you miss the opportunity to buy initially, you can bump the guy that bought the last ticket for a higher price. Have this go on for a week. Thus, the most successful with the most money makes it in. Prices are driven up, the free market determines the price and you get real players in the conference instead of tech-nomads/tourists.
 
Or you could just get a job and bring in 60k a year.

Or you missed out the fact that I'm a full time college student and don't have the time to have a job, but I do have enough bits of free time to put together an app every few months.

Just out of curiosity, how many apps have you published so far? How long has each been available? What are the sales to-date?

3. First one brings in $100/year, second one $100/year, third one is on track to bring in $3K/year (it's been up for 3 months and has brought in $1K so far.) I expect each app will bring in more than the previous, as I learn more about how to make quality apps and how to market them properly.
 
With this selling out fast, there is a business opportunity here for a "WWDC sniper" on line service where you register and the sniper server monitors incoming emails to your developer email address.

There was a free SMS sniper service polling Apple's WWDC website, but for some developers, it failed; some SMS messages reportedly arrived way too late. The earlier twitter traffic saved some.

Hopefully, someone figures out how to do more reliably next year.
 
$1600 is cheap for a five day conference.

I'm going to a 6-day conference in Washington DC this summer. While I have to pay for airfare & lodging in advance, my job will reimburse me for it. :D


No offence, but I have a legitimate question: you knew it was going to be a race to buy the tickets. Why wouldn't you get approval from your boss before the tickets went on sale?

As had been said before, Apple didn't say when the tickets would be on sale nor how much they'd go for. So by the time people figured out the tickets were on sale & for approval, it would've sold out already.
 
It's not available the next day btw.

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Them's the breaks.

Besides, Apple did email me while tickets were still available. Albeit 10 minutes after I already registered...

Sure, I missed out. At least you got an email, I'm also a dev with a published app (not just the membership) and got nothing.
 
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