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Tickets for WWDC 2012 Sell Out in Under Two Hours

more accessible than most others

longofest said:
How about Apple join the rest of the technology industry and when their developer conferences become so inaccessible to such a large number of people, then ADD MORE CONFERENCES!

Microsoft and Intel hold two per year for largely this reason. There is simply no good reason for Apple to stick with one conference with it selling out this fast.
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..well, it's not really inaccessible as the videos are online pretty soon and for free! Are the others doing this as well (apart from Google I/O)?

..plus Apple "thinks differently" ;) ... keeping up the myth with 1 WWDC/year is a must :D

.. to recap: the videos are giving the whole world the opportunity to participate as well. I think that's a great option for non-ticket-holders. In earlier times they did sell this for USD999.00 or so.
 
different focuses

Rocketman said:
When a rock concert sells out, they schedule another set of dates.

Rocketman
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yes, but: for a rock group this is an integral part of their "revenue model" and fostering their reputation and being in contact with their fans (=customers). The only "real" contact of them with them = essential.

For Apple the additional money is not relevant. Indeed it might be even a costly event as about 1000 engineers are not working on products, but are onsite (ok not a full working day and the whole week). It's bringing no further value to Apple to set up further conferences.
Especially as they made the videos for free already and closing the gap at least on the content level.

Why are rockstars (resp their labels) are not providing (downloadable) videos for free? ... ah... there was something like RIAA and similar organizations all over the world to rip off the audience... ;)
 
KF1 said:
about 1000 engineers are not working on products, but are onsite (ok not a full working day and the whole week). It's bringing no further value to Apple to set up further conferences.
Especially as they made the videos for free already and closing the gap at least on the content level.
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So, they could play the videos on the subsequent dates, facilitate the member networking, and do it with 1/4 the number of engineers to simply answer questions and interact with subcultures? Okay. I said it.

Rocketman
 
Rocketman said:
So, they could play the videos on the subsequent dates, facilitate the member networking, and do it with 1/4 the number of engineers to simply answer questions and interact with subcultures? Okay. I said it.

Rocketman
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I am not defending what Apple is doing, just trying to find reasons why or why not and finding possible views on that.
But not everything is shiny at WWDC and actually there is quite a big room for improvements.
Not sure what you refer as "member networking" to, if you mean the Labs. Won't work. If you mean meeting other attendees - where would be the difference of any forum/your personal network anyway/etc. No need for Apple to setup something like this - there are also already the Apple dev forums...If you mean the external event, won't work. If you mean the lunch speakers - maybe, but would be like any session video, and actually it is not networking. In fact I don't believe at all in the effectiveness of remote networking thingy for this type of conference. But maybe I didn't got the point what you mean.

The things where Apple should definitely improve at WWDC are the reintroduction of Q&A in the sessions and allowing not just too trivial questions. There main excuse was then "come down to the labs for further clarification on your point". I guess last year, was not attending, they even skipped the Q&A part completely. That's poor.

And stacking up the labs availability. Definitely to less slots. These could be easily tripled up (meaning the onsite presence time planned for questions 1:1 with the respective engineers) according to the overwhelming demand. I believe they could do even 24x7 in that week. So many people have something to clarify with them. The queueing ups respectively waiting time on the lists for the labs had gone ridiculous.

Finally, be happy that the videos and slide decks will be available and will save you a "Grover Cleveland" ;)
 
Rocketman said:
The problem being the 1000 engineers. Apple can't do that much travel without a huge disruption and cost. That's why I suggested simply doing a second week, and no it doesn't have to be consecutive. Week 2 might become more popular as a means to digest "lessons learned" from Week 1 Attendees.

There should be a 2x premium price to attend both to disincent double dippers.

Rocketman
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It costs less for the Apple engineers to travel and add that to the conference fee, than for most attendees to travel farther, and it's better for the environment.

The truth is, Apple needs international R&D centers, as they are sitting on a lot of cash overseas.
 
Rocketman said:
So, they could play the videos on the subsequent dates, facilitate the member networking, and do it with 1/4 the number of engineers to simply answer questions and interact with subcultures? Okay. I said it.

Rocketman
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What? This is exactly what Apple did with the iOS Tech Talks. WWDC has gotten big - they noticed - introduced international iOS Tech Talks as "mini-WWDC".
 
devman said:
There's no world other than the USA? Hmmm...
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To Apple and most Americans, yes. If you can afford to fly to the States from either Europe or Asia, you can afford a service to jump on this during non-business hours at your home.
 
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