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Tidal Owner Jay Z Has Removed All of His Albums From Apple Music [Updated]

simonmet said:
Um, all CDs are mixed and mastered from higher quality sources/recordings. This point is moot.

Lossy AAC is not better than Lossless.

Mastered for iTunes is Apple's way of saying they're trying to enforce some control, consistency or quality in the mastering process such that the resulting balance sounds better or perhaps even suits their lossy format. It's their way of saying this meets our standard for a "good mix". Many pop records are mixed incredibly poorly, driven largely by the loudness war in recent decades.

As with most things Apple it's largely marketing. There's nothing to say producers won't use that "Mastered for iTunes" mix for other CDs or services. I've not found Mastered for iTunes albums to sound better or different than the official releases elsewhere. But I commend their efforts in pushing labels to produce better sounding mixes.
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The Apple catalogue is definitely bigger but I find a good range of fairly obscure stuff I like on Tidal. It's mainly older albums that seem to be missing for some reason.

Don't agree on the Tidal v Apple apps though. Tidal is loads better than iTunes on iOS. I can't stand the new iTunes app. Ugly, too white, text too large. Can't stand the way it mixes my purchased and downloaded content. Hate it.
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Mastered for iTunes is actually a specification one must adhere to in the mastering studio not in the mix process. Besides the 1db of headroom for peak to avoid clipping from transient peaks during encoding, Mastered for iTunes specs specify that the AAC encoded audio encoding process occur from a 24bit mastered source. bit depth > lossless for audio quality (so long as the sample rate is a frequency response above human hearing limits.

While the 1db of headroom will largely go unnoticed, the extra resolution in the bit depth will allow for less aliasing in low frequency low volume passages or content.
 
gnasher729 said:
Can't you just buy a CD, and put it on your computer?
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Let's make this very, very clear: He may own $500 million. That doesn't mean he is worth $500 million. He is worth just as much as Bill Gates and just as much as a penniless, homeless man in the street begging for food.
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I guess you could but how many people are buying CD's?
 
#selfie said:
hmm.. wondering if MR editors even checked out this story prior to running the article ??

Jay-Z's stuff is still on apple music.. Blueprint isn't on there.. Reasonable Doubt isn't on there.. but they haven't been on there for most of 'apple music'.. his other stuff is still on there- today.

(and if you look hard enough, you'll find a lot of the blueprint songs in other places at apple music..)

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like, what exactly is the news here? as far as i can gather regarding jay-z songs at apple music, nothing is new(s).. nothing is different than it was last week or last month or last year.


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heh.. and now other news sources are echo chambering this inaccurate mac rumors article..
https://www.slashgear.com/jay-z-pulls-album-catalog-from-apple-music-and-spotify-08481323/

or here:
https://www.engadget.com/2017/04/07/jay-zs-albums-are-disappearing-from-apple-music-and-spotify/

which opens:
If you were hoping to make Jay Z's "Lucifer" part of your "getting ready to go out" playlist tonight that could be tricky depending on the streaming service you use. That's because as MacRumors and 9to5Mac noticed, Beyoncé's husband has started pulling his solo catalog from the likes of Apple Music and Spotify in favor of his Tidal service.
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Remy149 said:
8 of the current top 10 albums and all but 3 of the current top 20 songs on Apple Music are all rappers yet somehow the audience of this site wants to dismiss rap music as unimportant
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The typical commener on this site thinks they should be the target audience for absolutely anything Apple does, and hates and/or dismisses anything outside of their own, narrow personal interests.

I mean, it's always been like that to a degree, but it's gotten much more toxic in the last few years.
 
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Jay Z isn't crap. His music isn't crap. Rap isn't crap. That's 2 million more subscribers than your zero subscribers for the record.

Music diversity. Platform diversity. Apple has even copied some of Tidal's user interface. Tidal works just fine. Tidal is focusing on high quality output.
 
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smacrumon said:
Jay Z isn't crap. His music isn't crap. Rap isn't crap. That's 2 million more subscribers than your zero subscribers for the record.

Music diversity. Platform diversity. Apple has even copied some of Tidal's user interface. Tidal works just fine. Tidal is focusing on high quality output.
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Not a fan of Jay-Z but I respect that others are, and I actually like a lot of rap/hip-hop, but not all, same as any other genre.
 
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smacrumon said:
Jay Z isn't crap. His music isn't crap. Rap isn't crap. That's 2 million more subscribers than your zero subscribers for the record.

Music diversity. Platform diversity. Apple has even copied some of Tidal's user interface. Tidal works just fine. Tidal is focusing on high quality output.
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Music is art. Music makers are artists. You telling me that I cannot look at art and make my own judgement whether I think the art is crap or not? You may look at a painting made from splattered paint and say it speaks to you, and I can look at it and say it's crap and a 5 year old could do that. We're both right. So, maybe rap IS crap, to some people.
 
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smacrumon said:
Jay Z isn't crap. His music isn't crap. Rap isn't crap. That's 2 million more subscribers than your zero subscribers for the record.

Music diversity. Platform diversity. Apple has even copied some of Tidal's user interface. Tidal works just fine. Tidal is focusing on high quality output.
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Rap music just isn't my cup of tea and I'd rather not listen to it. Does this make me racist? I think its crap no matter what skin color the artist has. We all have our tastes and opinions.
 
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Kudos to Jay-Z for helping Apple to offer subscribers the best selection of available content! Jay-Z could further help Apple improve its offerings by removing Beyoncé's hot garbage juice ... err ... music .. from the service as well.
 
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Jay-Z aside (I like his music) - Tidal sounds significantly better on high end audio equipment. I understand that on average consumer equipment the difference is basically impossible to discern.

However, I frequently back-to-back Apple Music and Tidal with friends on high end systems (such as Bowers & Wilkins 804 D3s, balanced monoblock amps, and balanced DAC pre-amps) and there is just no comparison at all.

I don't care if Apple acquires Tidal or not, but I really really really hope lossless comes to Apple music. I prefer using Apple Music, but I'm basically forced to keep Tidal because nobody else is stepping up the quality game.
 
lostczech said:
It's as if he doesn't want to make money. This move will make people more likely to pirate his music than jump to a different music service
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The dude is loaded and has other business adventures. One being his quickly growing sports agency.
 
This is the problem with streaming / subscriptions services though, you run the risk of Not having everything you want. Here in the U.K. I have that issue with TV, some things are on BBC, some sky, some on Netflix and the odd bit on amazon prime. I'd rather buy my content
 
triton100 said:
What incredibly juvenile, denigrating and contemptuously unsavoury commentary. There is more to a person's value than dictated by their external appearance. Let's hope karma does not cast an educative hand your way to let you discover that the hard way.
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Oh, I'm sorry. His music is just as bad as his looks too. Thank you for reminding me
 
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MacRumors said:



Shawn Carter, known professionally as rapper Jay Z, appears to have removed his entire solo album collection from Apple Music overnight. Now, when searching for "Jay Z" on Apple Music, only songs in which he collaborated with other artists are available to stream on the service in the United States and elsewhere.

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Jay Z has removed select albums from Apple Music in the past, but this is the first time he has pulled his entire catalog of albums from the service, including Reasonable Doubt, The Blueprint, and The Black Album. Only some of his collaborations with Kanye West, Linkin Park, R. Kelly, and Rihanna remain.

Jay Z co-owns Tidal, a rival streaming music service, so his decision to remove his discography from Apple Music could be for competitive reasons. Kanye West, another stakeholder in Tidal, also implied that there might be some animosity between Apple and Jay Z in a series of tweets last year.

Jay Z's albums appear to have been removed from Spotify recently as well, so his decision might be unrelated to any potential feud with Apple. Spotify on Twitter today said it can "confirm that some of Jay Z's catalogue has been removed at the request of the artist," but it did not provide a specific reason.

Jay Z's albums are still available for purchase on iTunes, and to stream on smaller services such as Google Play Music, at least for the time being. By contrast, Jay Z's wife Beyoncé still offers a large number of her songs and albums on Apple Music, including her recently added single "Die With You."

Tidal's other stakeholders, including Kanye West, Rihanna, Nicki Minaj, Daft Punk, Jack White, Madonna, Arcade Fire, Alicia Keys, Usher, and Calvin Harris, also continue to offer many of their songs and albums on Apple Music.

Tidal costs $9.99 per month, the same price as Apple Music, while a premium tier with high-fidelity sound is available for $19.99 per month. Tidal said it had over 3 million subscribers in March 2016, but recent reports have claimed it may have been falsely inflating the number of paying customers it had.

Apple Music had over 20 million subscribers as of last December, while Spotify recently announced it surpassed 50 million paying customers.

Sprint acquired a 33 percent stake in Tidal in January, and at the time it said it would give its customers "unlimited access to exclusive artist content not available anywhere else." Under the deal, artists partnering with Tidal will create music that will only be available to the carrier's customers.

It's unclear at this point if Sprint's stake in Tidal has anything to do with Jay Z's music being removed from Apple Music or Spotify.

Apple and Jay Z's music label Roc Nation did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Universal Music Group deferred comment to Roc Nation.

Article Link: Tidal Owner Jay Z Has Removed All of His Albums From Apple Music
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Not a single s..t was given
 
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Does Spotify/Tidal use more resources on iOS and therefore more battery?

I always feel this way when using either of them and hence why I use Apple Music instead.

Anyway, couldn't care less about Jay Z dropping his albums from Apple. Tons of other rap artists out there that are miles better. Although, I could see Apple losing customers because of this.
 
Asarien said:
You must not understand how much money this man already has.
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Make no mistake it isn't about how much he has but how much more he can get. People like this always want more to build their "mogul empire".
 
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