Tiger Available April 29th

[powerbook911]

Ok. That's just never happened to me before, or at least I've never noticed it. Whew!

Yeah, that "pending" charge will probably stay on there until they do the real charge at the end of the month.

 

[dvdiva]

This situation is the same as any Windows O/S..with one HUGE exception

Windows XP Pro retail costs $269.99 (Amazon)
XP upgrade cost $189.00 (Amazon)
Tiger 10.4 cost $129.99

Think about it..

You forgot he fired up his bittorrent client. Maybe he switched after XP ran a Windows Validation Assistant and wasn't happy with the results.

 

[gvf]

Discount Tiger OS

For those with Education Discounts: I don't know if this price will remain standard, but Tuesday, the day Tiger's release date was announced, I ordered it for $69 with free shipping and a free online seminar on the APPLE site's Education Store.
By the way, maybe I missed this info but how many gigs will Tiger take up?

 

[BWhaler]

Does anyone else think the girl who starts the 3 way video chat in the iChat video demonstration looks eerily like Nina Meyers from 24?

And oh, great news of course.

A little bit.

She's hot though. Not as a hot as the Shuffle girl, but nevertheless not too shabby.

 

[Kosher Terror]

I don't know if this has already been posted, but according to the Apple site:

Soon, anyone using a PC can take advantage of the effortlessness of Bonjour for free, too, as Apple will release a Windows version in the first half of 2005.

This will make networking with my parent's PC much easier.

 

[bankshot]

Is there some way I can save the current backdrop in Panther? I don't want to say goodbye to it forever.

The bundled desktop images are in /Library/Desktop Images. Just copy that somewhere under your home directory, do an Archive & Install, and enjoy!

 

[bosrs1]

On the System Requirements page is say's:



What does that mean? How about people with PowerMacs whom have upgraded their graphics card themselves, is that supported by Tiger?

And I can't seem to find that list of supported graphics cards on Apple's site. Anybody have a link or the list?

EDIT: I should say which graphics card are supported by CoreImage.

It supports any 16 meg or above video card. Apple should be more clear, but if you have 16 megs of vid and firewire you're good.

 

[Orlando Furioso]

Re: Inkwell

Did anyone notice the new Inkwell feature?

I haven't seen it openly reported on, and its not on the main feature list. I only found it on the overview page. And Steve never mentioned it at the Keynote.

It seems pretty significant... as it is a completely new input interface... using pen tablets and having built in OS X support for handwriting recognition...

I'm not sure when it was first introduced (or supported), but Panther already supports Inkwell. It is pretty cool and sports handwriting recognition, ink pad, gestures, and a word list. Try it out when you get a chance. It can be a lovely vacation (from the mouse) for your hand.

 

[jnasato]

!

I canceled my order with Amazon, so I can pick it up at the Apple Store here...

I don't wanna wait so long to get Tiger in my hands and installed on my PowerMac!

Tiiiiigeeer~!

YAY!

 

[dicklacara]

I'm not sure when it was first introduced (or supported), but Panther already supports Inkwell. It is pretty cool and sports handwriting recognition, ink pad, gestures, and a word list. Try it out when you get a chance. It can be a lovely vacation (from the mouse) for your hand.

That's odd...

I am rumming both Tiger and Panther on side-by-side computers. Neither has Inkwell installed! Is Inkwell something that only ships with a graphic tablet?

 

[stuBCN75]

Apple website

eeew. all that black on the Apple website. It looks so nasty.
Apple seems to have so many styles going on at once, what happened to their clean consistent design. ( well, semi-consistent design. I never have been a fan of the brushed metal look )

Does anyone else like all the black on the Apple site ?

Anyway, looking forward to Tiger but not more brushed metal. I was hoping Apple might have cleaned up the designs a little. The OS design (IMHO) seems to be get more fussy rather than cleaner.

Sure it will be great. Hope a new version of 'whiteout' will be available to get rid of the brushed metal.

 

[Platform]

NAB (unlikely) or WWDC (likely).

Why do they have to wait that long

The PM's and iMac's can have very easy upgrades Apple does not need all that time.. C'mon give us new PMs

 

[Chilled Eskimo]

Not sure if anyone has noticed this yet but for those who have a copy of Server 10.3 Unlimited there does not appear to be an upgrade path (unless you've taken out maintenance with Apple). In other words you'll have to buy the full product again.

 

[VanNess]

That's odd...

I am rumming both Tiger and Panther on side-by-side computers. Neither has Inkwell installed! Is Inkwell something that only ships with a graphic tablet?

Nope. It appears (in Panther) when you plug a graphics tablet into the computer. No graphics tablet = no need to show the controls for one. Similar to mouse control panel. It doesn't show the scrolling speed slider control until you plug in a mouse with a scroll wheel. Or iTunes doesn't show Airport Express controls until you plug one in, etc.

 

[Multimedia]

My Delivery Date is "On or Before Thursday April 28"

I ordered Tiger this morning about 10:30 am PDT and the order status now indicates I will receive it "On or before Thursday 04/28/2005". So it appears that if you ordered early you may get it in a queue that sends out the last orders for Friday 4.29.05 arrival, meaning if a lot of Tiger orders build up in the queue, first orderers may get it several days b4 the "release" date.

I hope this theory is correct because I can't wait to install it and start enjoying the new Widgets, RSS Safari and other enhancements.

 

[BWhaler]

Not sure if anyone has noticed this yet but for those who have a copy of Server 10.3 Unlimited there does not appear to be an upgrade path (unless you've taken out maintenance with Apple). In other words you'll have to buy the full product again.

Man, people will think of anything to complain about.

1. This is NO different than the client version.

2. This is exponentially cheaper than any company backed server upgrade. A grand for an unlimited license upgrade? It's nothing, absolutely nothing. In the Microsoft world, think tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars. OSX Server is the best deal in the market.

3. This is the way it has always been. Are you just figuring this out?

 

[Platform]

How long will it take before 10.4 is pre-loaded on new machines

Will they come after the 29 or

 

[Multimedia]

Early May Tiger DVDs In The Box, Later May Tiger Installed In New Models

How long will it take before 10.4 is pre-loaded on new machines

Will they come after the 29 or

Yes after the 29th. Probably by mid May after they flush out the existing inventory with Panther installed. Existing inventory shipped after April 29th will have Tiger DVDs in the box but the buyer will have to perform the upgrade on the first new Macs shipped with Tiger DVDs in the box.

We are probably looking at hardware refreshes across the board, except for PowerBooks, all with Tiger pre-installed by the end of June at the latest and more likely by early June if not end of May. Everything is overdue a refresh already. Waiting for Tiger is likely the reason for the delay.

 

[Platform]

Yes after the 29th. Probably by mid May after they flush out the existing inventory with Panther installed. Existing inventory shipped after April 29th will have Tiger DVDs in the box but the buyer will have to perform the upgrade on the first new Macs shipped with Tiger DVDs in the box.
We are probably looking at hardware refreshes across the board, except for PowerBooks, all with Tiger pre-installed by the end of June at the latest and more likely by early June if not end of May. Everything is overdue a refresh already. Waiting for Tiger is likely the reason for the delay.

Thanks

Well if it is in a box or pre-installed does not really matter to me

 

[MacNoobie]

That is the stupidest thing I have read.

One: Apple rep said "if Tiger is released in two weeks" it's free. Guess he was playing word games. He should have said shipped in two weeks. He also told me it wasn't out and that he didn't think it would be out for some time. Dangerously close to a lie there.

Two: 6 freaking days after I buy something it's outdated. Thanks Apple, great way to encourage switchers.

Three: The BBB (an independent third party) thought it was a rip-off and accpeted my complaint against Apple and the local Mac store. Nothing will come of it, but it's the thought that counts.

Did I get ripped? Damn right I did and only an Apple fanboy would deny it.

You buy a computer a Mac Mini and you get home, unpack the thing and start to use it. You then find out Tiger is announced on the 12th and shipping the 29th. So now you're huffing and puffing and seeing red because you just bought something that didnt come with something that was anounced a week or two later?

I'm afraid no one ripped you off honestly unless you brought home the Mini and all you found was a brick in the box instead of the computer THEN I would sat you got ripped off. Heck I bought a PM not too long ago and if they announce some new quad CPU 3Ghz G5 at NAB would I be coming on the forums whining that I "got ripped off"? hell no thats called progress there guy and unfortunately things come out after you bought something thats going to be ugraded and better then what you've got.

No offense I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything but unless you're box was empty or had a brick in it I fail to see exactly how you got "ripped off".

 

[iScream]

Hooray....and BOO!!!!

I like most, am looking forward to Tiger. However, I am getting really pissed off at the pricing that Apple uses in the UK. Tiger in US (inc shipping) = $129 (£68.18) so why does it cost £89, ($168) here?

It's the same for iTunes downloads, and the rest of Apple hardware/software.

I really wish that they would "Think Different".

Note to Apple - stop screwing UK users.

 

[JFreak]

CDs are to today what Floppies were 5 years ago.

you mean 15 years, right?

 

[rdowns]

Please help chart Tiger sales

I participate in the Apple stock message board on Yahoo. There is a member who tracks Apple Web Store sales by order number since Apple uses sequential numbers. We need some help!

Can you please post your Apple web order # for Tiger as follows: (you can x out the last 3 digits)

Order # (W12345xxx)
Date and time ordered.

Would also love other order numbers if you have them, same format.

Please specify what ordered.

Thanks for your help.

Thread for results is located here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=1382845#post1382845

 

[uncle_sam_ie]

I like most, am looking forward to Tiger. However, I am getting really pissed off at the pricing that Apple uses in the UK. Tiger in US (inc shipping) = $129 (£68.18) so why does it cost £89, ($168) here?

It's the same for iTunes downloads, and the rest of Apple hardware/software.

I really wish that they would "Think Different".

Note to Apple - stop screwing UK users.

It's the same in Ireland. 137USD(105Euro) before VAT, 166USD(129Euro) after VAT.

 

[toti]

I like most, am looking forward to Tiger. However, I am getting really pissed off at the pricing that Apple uses in the UK. Tiger in US (inc shipping) = $129 (£68.18) so why does it cost £89, ($168) here?

It's the same for iTunes downloads, and the rest of Apple hardware/software.

I really wish that they would "Think Different".

Note to Apple - stop screwing UK users.

Oh stop whining !

You are paying the UK VAT plus a little to the store.

I'd have you come over and buy Apple stuff at the price WE have to pay.

Go to http://www.apple.is/verdlisti and check out the prices. I'm sure your'e well equipped to convert Icelandic krona to GBP or USD ( Use www.oanda.com if you need help ).

Grmblmbl.....