Tiger Available April 29th

[kretzy]

how long before they update all of the other worldwide apple sites. like tiger is available for purchase in the store, but it still hasnt hit the frontpage and all of the new info about it still isnt there.

 

[MacPhreak]

You high on something?

iMovie and iPhoto have never been a part of OS X, it's a part of iLife.

Yes they have. iLife '04 un-bundled them from OS X. iPhoto 2 (I believe) came w/Panther or Jag or both, don't remember. Same with iMovie. Heck, iMovie was out on OS 9.

 

[liketom]

Yes they have. iLife '04 un-bundled them from OS X. iPhoto 2 (I believe) came w/Panther or Jag or both, don't remember. Same with iMovie. Heck, iMovie was out on OS 9.

not any more ! anyone think you'd want a free copy of longhorn with it too ?

 

[bogg]

Yes they have. iLife '04 un-bundled them from OS X. iPhoto 2 (I believe) came w/Panther or Jag or both, don't remember. Same with iMovie. Heck, iMovie was out on OS 9.

My Err, i ofcourse meant in later versions.

Sorry for that

 

[puckhead193]

I can't wait, i think i'm going to wait a few week until school is out so i don't have to worry about something screwing up

 

[advocate]

I guess I should know this, but isn't SDK 1.5 also Java 2? It's still part of J2SE and J2EE. http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp

Quite right. Sun has a history of numbering Java versions in a strange way. Java 1.2 was called Java 2. Java 1.3 was Java 2 version 1.3. Java 1.4 was Java 2 version 1.4, or more specifically, J2SE 1.4, J2EE 1.4, J2ME 1.4 for Standard, Enterprise, Mobile Editions. Now Java 1.5 is being called Java 5 "Tiger" but also J2SE version 5.0, etc. Not to worry, Tiger will have Tiger.

Just a bit too late for me, though. I needed Java 5 (yes, we really needed Java 5 features) between January and April for a development project so I ended up running Eclipse over Remote Desktop to a Windows desktop. Sigh.

 

[paulypants]

Sweet.

Enhanced Dock Menu

Quickly set an application or document to open automatically when you login to your Mac — straight from the Dock.

 

[Peace]

I hear you there. The old Tiger site said both the Mobility 9600 and 9700 were supported and now they took off the 9600. I will assume however if a 9700 Mobility can run it so can a 9600 Mobility. I guess we will see. Does anyone out there know the deal on this? I was all pumped about having 2 completely compatible computers ready for Tiger and now it looks like my Powerbook does not have full support from Apple's site. I also noticed that no Powerbook G3's are supported, but old toliet seat iBooks are??? Very strange indeed, but if you go to the supported computers list, Pismo is gone.

I sure hope Tiger supports the mobility 9600.My 15" Powerbook G4 Al. 1 Ghz has the 9600..
That list is probably just a list of some of the most recent/popular cards.

 

[mac-er]

Improved Performance

Safari 2.0 on Tiger loads pages 1.8 times faster than Safari 1.2 on Panther.

Thank God!

And, appranently will be faster than Firefox in rendering pages...

 

[clonenode]

Yes they have. iLife '04 un-bundled them from OS X. iPhoto 2 (I believe) came w/Panther or Jag or both, don't remember. Same with iMovie. Heck, iMovie was out on OS 9.

Well, to be exact, both iMovie and iPhoto were free applications when they were first introduced. iMove came out when OS 9 was still the main OS. It then moved on to becoming an OS X application. And it may have been "bundled" with one of the releases (maybe Jaguar).

iPhoto was never an OS 9 app. And it was also "free" at one time. But with the introduction of "iLife," the current versions became available ONLY in the box for $49. All of this was because of the introduction of iDVD, which could not be downloaded for free.

 

[tliptak]

I sure hope Tiger supports the mobility 9600.My 15" Powerbook G4 Al. 1 Ghz has the 9600..
That list is probably just a list of some of the most recent/popular cards.

It really should support our cards considering they are more powerful then the go5200 by a good bit.

 

[broken_keyboard]

This is a cool feature that I have been using but haven't been able to talk about until now:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/newfeatures/newfeatures.html
Improved RAID
Use disk utility for software RAID, now including mirrored, striped, concatenated, auto mirror rebuild and block size settings.


Basically it lets you chain all the hard drives in your system together so they look like one big one. They don't have to be the same size, and it doesn't do striping or mirroring or anything, it just makes one big drive out of separate ones.

 

[Trekkie]

when I do a new install, do I have to buy iLife to get iPhoto?

Yeah I noticed that all iLife applications except iTunes are missing from the list of 'included applications'

not that I am upset about that, I actually think that's a good thing. It comes free with new hardware but you buy it if you have older stuff. The price isn't that bad and I want them to make money off of it so they'll add even more home applications when the opportunity presents itself.

Still don't like the garageband name. Think it should have been something else but I'm not creative enough, it should have been iSomething.

 

[powerbook911]

I have a question, for those of you who preordered iLife and iWork, from Apple in January for "delivery by" date. Did some of you get them 1 or 2 days early? I'm hoping the same could happen for Tiger!

 

[Object-X]

Actually, Apple's press release says it will not be released until 6pm on the 29th.

The best option is to order it from Apple.com, and they will ship it so you will get it on Friday (some people will acutally get it earlier depending on how close they live to the distribution center)

LIES! LIES!

Hmm...maybe online is the way to go this time. Mail arrives at 11:00am. Guess I could return the one I get in the mail if it doesn't arrive on time.

 

[mac-er]

When Panther and Jaguar, a lot of people got them 1 or 2 days early.

 

[liketom]

LIES! LIES!

Hmm...maybe online is the way to go this time. Mail arrives at 11:00am. Guess I could return the one I get in the mail if it doesn't arrive on time.

i orderd my copy as soon as the UK store came back up , and i am too hoping they will deliver on the 29th ! if it's late by even 1 day i'm screwed as i'm getting married on the sat 30th and i'm off to New York on the monday ( bank holiday , no post btw)

so if posty is a lazy git on the fri it will be going back and i will pick up my copy at the SOHO Apple store in NY .

cutting it a bit tight

 

[ipacmm]

cool...just ordered it through the edu store.

 

[mac-er]

LIES! LIES!

Hmm...maybe online is the way to go this time. Mail arrives at 11:00am. Guess I could return the one I get in the mail if it doesn't arrive on time.

I would not put it past some DA CompUSA to put it out as soon as they open on the 29th.

 

[gekko513]

Awesome, now I know why he campus rep program sent me an email last night asking me to confirm my shipping address, however I doubt I will get it by the 29th. Maybe I'll just order a copy anyway...'

Also I see that rendezvous has officially been changed to Bonjour. Ugh.

I like it: Bonjour

 

[kenaustus]

Went to the Apple store site and found Tiger w/ EDU discount. I've got a G5 and an iBook (both running Panther) and will probably be getting a Mac Mini plus another iBook or another Mac Mini. Bottom line, I'll have 4 Macs pretty soon two of which might come with Tiger but two that don't. I want to upgrade and I guess the best way would be the Family pack with 5 licenses. Apple has the single user for $69 but couldn't find the Family pack with EDU discount. Anyone know if you can purchase the Family pack with EDU discount? Thanks

No Family Pack discounts at this time. I called and a very nice lady even went into their "hidden spots" looking for it. Since I have 5 Macs to update the $40 per Mac was a simple decision. If you can get 2 single copies for $69 each then that would be the cheapest route this time, then go with the family pack when OS X 10.5 comes out.

 

[mrsebastian]

Improved Performance

Safari 2.0 on Tiger loads pages 1.8 times faster than Safari 1.2 on Panther.

Thank God!

And, appranently will be faster than Firefox in rendering pages...

i'm with you there! after a certain amount of use, safari has been a real drag. even cleaning out the history and cache, it still never seems to be as good after a fresh install.

 

[mac-er]

i orderd my copy as soon as the UK store came back up , and i am too hoping they will deliver on the 29th ! if it's late by even 1 day i'm screwed as i'm getting married on the sat 30th and i'm off to New York on the monday ( bank holiday , no post btw)

Congrats! Just make sure your bride-to-be doesn't wear twigs in her hair like Camilla

 

[dicklacara]

This is a cool feature that I have been using but haven't been able to talk about until now:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/newfeatures/newfeatures.html
Improved RAID
Use disk utility for software RAID, now including mirrored, striped, concatenated, auto mirror rebuild and block size settings.


Basically it lets you chain all the hard drives in your system together so they look like one big one. They don't have to be the same size, and it doesn't do striping or mirroring or anything, it just makes one big drive out of separate ones.

Mmmmm....


I have the following external FW drivws

LaCie 160 (FW1)
LaCie 200 (FW1)
LaCie ITB (FW1/2)

I saw the RAID opitions in the DiskUtility but haven't used it

Some questions:

1) Does creating a RAID set destroy existing data on the member drives?

2) If not, how are the metadata/content stores maintaineed-- a single store or a store on every member drive?

 

[emulator]

I'm in the same boat as you. I ordered a PB on Friday (8/4), it was supposed to ship today, but I just received an email saying that the shipping date has changed to 20/04 Does this mean I should expect to get Tiger?

If it hasn't shipped, why don't you just cancel and reorder?