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Tiger Build 8A294 Seeded To Developers

reckless_0001 said:
Have all the people's Macs who are running the new Tiger builds crashed or they just all joined a new "I don't wanna share anything" club? :D
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If you legally have the Tiger Beta, you can't share anything because of your NDA. If you illegally have the Tiger Beta, then I'm sure your busy scouring the build for new things to talk about :)
 
Rincewind42 said:
If you legally have the Tiger Beta, you can't share anything because of your NDA. If you illegally have the Tiger Beta, then I'm sure your busy scouring the build for new things to talk about :)
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Naw, I don't have the new build. I don't plan on touching it until it comes out. But, I just like hearing about the new features and looking at the screenshots.
 
Answer: Apple :)

wdlove said:
I'm sure that over the next many months of work on Tiger, esthetic improvements will also be made. The flags would make a nicer appearance. I wonder which will be the first developer to make the first use of Tiger's 64 bit.
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wdlove said:
I'm sure that over the next many months of work on Tiger, esthetic improvements will also be made. The flags would make a nicer appearance. I wonder which will be the first developer to make the first use of Tiger's 64 bit.
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Personally, I've always hated the flags. The color and harsh patterns were too noisy next to all the other smooth gray and black icons. But that's just me.

As for 64-bit developer stuff, the work I do has been using the 64-bit math available in the G5 since it came out. I know that really has nothing to do with Tiger, but it's far more useful in my realm of development than getting 64-bit addressing. Not to say I don't have uses for it.
 
Optimized?

Zigster said:
Yeah but is it OPTIMIZED for the G5 FINALLY??? :confused:
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It is. 64-bit. It's very quick, even at this stage. Spotlight, and the new Widgets are terrific. Quicktime 6.6. Mail 2.0 looks good. "Burnable Folders"? Automated Applescripts? Very sweet.
 
This build is very very quick on my machine. Responses to user interface elements are instant and windows (finally) resize smoothly and quickly. Some apps seem to take advantage of whatever they're using to make window resizing smooth while others are using the old method. The most dramatic display of this new resizing ability is in Preview. I can open a 4MP image in Preview, have it "resize to fit window" and scale the window up and down from a tiny pic to full screen, the whole while the system is scaling the image and the window with ZERO jitters. Very impressive. I can even have a portion of the image selected (with translucency, of course) and the selection will scale glassy smooth right along with the window and image while resizing.

Spotlight is VERY fast, virtually instant. It finds some pretty impressive stuff that I had even forgot was on my HDD. Safari renders pages much, much faster. There's nice little details throughout the OS too. DVD Player will keep playing a movie even if minimized to dock. System Profiler is far more thorough in its detail of hardware and software. Mail looks great but is very very buggy. Well for that matter, the whole OS is still really buggy, but we're a long way off from GM release, of course.

Overall, I'm extremely excited about this release. There are so many thoughtful details and such a dramatic UI "snappiness" improvement that I'm just counting the days until release. I'd say the UI improvement is on par with going from 10.1.5 to 10.3.5. Tiger is WELL WORTH $129 and I'm looking forward to forking over my cash.

-Drew
 
veedubdrew said:
This build is very very quick on my machine. Responses to user interface elements are instant and windows (finally) resize smoothly and quickly. Some apps seem to take advantage of whatever they're using to make window resizing smooth while others are using the old method. The most dramatic display of this new resizing ability is in Preview. I can open a 4MP image in Preview, have it "resize to fit window" and scale the window up and down from a tiny pic to full screen, the whole while the system is scaling the image and the window with ZERO jitters. Very impressive. I can even have a portion of the image selected (with translucency, of course) and the selection will scale glassy smooth right along with the window and image while resizing.

Spotlight is VERY fast, virtually instant. It finds some pretty impressive stuff that I had even forgot was on my HDD. Safari renders pages much, much faster. There's nice little details throughout the OS too. DVD Player will keep playing a movie even if minimized to dock. System Profiler is far more thorough in its detail of hardware and software. Mail looks great but is very very buggy. Well for that matter, the whole OS is still really buggy, but we're a long way off from GM release, of course.

Overall, I'm extremely excited about this release. There are so many thoughtful details and such a dramatic UI "snappiness" improvement that I'm just counting the days until release. I'd say the UI improvement is on par with going from 10.1.5 to 10.3.5. Tiger is WELL WORTH $129 and I'm looking forward to forking over my cash.

-Drew
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My guess is that they implemented the window resize optimization that they mentioned in the developer notes for the WWDC build (which apps specifically have to use for it to be in effect). I certainly wasn't expecting the kinds of improvements people have been talking about from it though... so maybe there's something else as well. [OT] Looking at your sig, I admire your taste in equipment :) [/OT]
 
wileypen said:
OS X is getting like Microsoft Word - just keep pilin' on them features no matter how obscure or unnecessary, and usability suffers.
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I think smart folders alone will radically change the way you work with files, and my feeling is that this will improve usability massively.
 
I am going to take a page from Aiden here....

G5 tiger powerbook early next year here we come!!!
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If one is looking to add a G5 to a powerbook because it will offer 64-bit in a laptop, they are misguided in the ways of the true power they will gain...

The things a G5 will bring you in a PowerBook is :

- Warmer lap
- Faster memory bus
- Faster clock speed ( maybe )
- Slower Altivec
- Shorter battery life
- Logic board problems, ala iBook
- Bragging rights.

I doubt that anyone will even be able to use a majority of the enhancments that a 64-bit proc would bring, due to configuration limitations.

I personally would like to see a G5 in a powerBook, but not for the 64 bitness of the chip. That would be useless, even with Gentoo.

Max.
 
Problems in this release

I have a dual monitor setup. I have a 20" cinema display sitting to the right of a 17" display. When the arraingment is set so that they act as one giant monitor from left to right, I can no longer point the mouse at an object on the screen and hightlight it. It will actually create a grab box all the way across the other side of the monitor. If I try to hightlight the hd on the top right of the 20 " screen it will grab at the top left of the 20" screen. IF I arrainge the monitors in the display control panel so that I say the 17" is actually to the right of my 20" display, the cursor works as it should. I did a fresh full install so it's not a matter of old code mixing with new code. This is flat out just broken in the latest release of Tiger. I have reported it to apple. lets see what the next iteration of Tiger brings. As far as all the fun stuff..well I'm enjoying it.
 
GRAHAMUK said:
I think smart folders alone will radically change the way you work with files, and my feeling is that this will improve usability massively.
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Smart folders yes... burnable folders though? That just seems like a hack. How about a "burn" button in the Finder toolbar that burns the contents of the current window?
 
Q's and A's for developer people....

..from an "embedded person".

1. Can you run AIX 4.x on the G5 (not the ppc970 blades..the Apple boxes)?

2. (and if SO)...can you run 64-bit Java with both MacOSX and AIX...and
server (Apache?) software?

3. Anyone running genuine (IBM) 64bit Java apps now on the new Tiger
builds?

4. Anyone running other similar virtual machine programs (i.e. Linux,Jinux
etc.?


The new COAS/COSA architecture..is coming along for IBM (in Open MP) and its new Cell Processing machines see:

http://site.gamehack.net/index.php?act=home

http://cap.anu.edu.au/cap/arch/cap.html

http://www.simsysresearch.com/ssrc/en/research/parallel_cell.htm

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-948493.html

http://www.the-magicbox.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-870.html


...hmmm.

I had more URL's for you guys....but the old COAS/COSA site just "disappeared".

Someone is very nervous.

WW






Does Big Steve plan BIG IBM announcements soon? Cell "systems"support in the Tiger (tachyon?) builds after June 2005 might get MacOSX over the top and out front for the entire UNIX community. Jobs has a better shot overtaking the Solaris12 people than eating Bill Gates sack lunch.

ww
 
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