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Any one of the big platforms going down is a win for the citizens living in whatever country the ban applies.

There's going to be a pretty big increase brain cells and productivity if this ban goes through.
TikTok users will just move to some other productivity wasting brain cell killing platform (e.g. Instagram, YouTube, Snapchat, X, etc.). There are plenty out there.
 
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That is very slippery slope. What else is going to be considered a threat to national security? Unpopular dissenting opinion? Protests? Once the door is opened it is very difficult to close.
That’s why the law is strictly limited to TikTok. Every similar ban would require Congress to pass a new law, which is no easy task. So don’t worry.
 
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The US doesn't have a first amendment for foreign corporations.
True, and that does seem like the basis SCOTUS will use to keep the ban. But legal tricks aside, the users of TikTok will no longer be able to express themselves in the same way. Yes, that's ByteDance's fault, but the effect is a loss of free expression imho. You can say they can go to another platform, sure, but what about all the historical content users have posted on TikTok. That's just gone. All that free expression vanished retroactively. And that's not ByteDance's free expression that's been disappeared, it's Americans' expression who have first amendment rights.
 
True, and that does seem like the basis SCOTUS will use to keep the ban. But legal tricks aside, the users of TikTok will no longer be able to express themselves in the same way. Yes, that's ByteDance's fault, but the effect is a loss of free expression imho. You can say they can go to another platform, sure, but what about all the historical content users have posted on TikTok. That's just gone. All that free expression vanished retroactively.
There are multiple free platforms that accomplish the exact same thing as tiktok.
 
This kind of... KIND OF... feels like the beginning of the view I use to put on other countries actively blocking websites or services. I haven't followed the details enough, but between this and the issues surrounding DJI/Drone use, I'm not sure I agree with the direction it's going.
 
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True, and that does seem like the basis SCOTUS will use to keep the ban. But legal tricks aside, the users of TikTok will no longer be able to express themselves in the same way. Yes, that's ByteDance's fault, but the effect is a loss of free expression imho. You can say they can go to another platform, sure, but what about all the historical content users have posted on TikTok. That's just gone. All that free expression vanished retroactively. And that's not ByteDance's free expression that's been disappeared, it's Americans' expression who have first amendment rights.
That's why the main focus of the law is a sale of TikTok and not a ban.
 
ByteDance has claimed that a sale is not possible, and that China would not approve the divestiture of TikTok and its algorithm.
So money doesn't interest them, but the data does. (This is the CCP, so we know freedom of speech is viewed as a threat, so it's not that.)

That was exactly the wrong argument to make. Are they that clueless or that arrogant?
 
Let’s face it. The US just isn’t happy that there is another big player on the market that isn’t American. Where is the actual PROOF that they are doing anything wrong? So far I have only read assumptions because … BOOOO china

And no, I don’t even use TikTok and don’t like the government of China either but this seems more like a „business decision“ more than anything, just like the whole Huawei ordeal. „Gotta slow em down cuz we can’t have China be ahead in the whole phone bizz“
You do realize that EVERY social media app/website that is owned by a US-based entity is banned in China, right?

You are deriding the US for banning TikTok or Huawei but China bans and/or seriously hamstrings many US companies from operating within their borders.

I say that the US should allow TikTok once China allows Google, Facebook and Twitter (X) to operate in their country. I won't hold my breath for that though.
 
Dictator Trump will come to the rescue and save that hot garbage from being banned. He plays both sides. Wanted it banned before and all for it. Now he doesn’t want it banned and trying to save it. The cesspool of today’s society will continue….
 
Let’s face it. The US just isn’t happy that there is another big player on the market that isn’t American. Where is the actual PROOF that they are doing anything wrong? So far I have only read assumptions because … BOOOO china

And no, I don’t even use TikTok and don’t like the government of China either but this seems more like a „business decision“ more than anything, just like the whole Huawei ordeal. „Gotta slow em down cuz we can’t have China be ahead in the whole phone bizz“
There will be no proof until the day China decides to attack Taiwan and use TikTok to prevent the US from intervening.
 
That's why the main focus of the law is a sale of TikTok and not a ban.
But end users have no control over that, yet they have to suffer the repercussions in the form of a breach of their first amendment rights. Sure, going forward, they can post content elsewhere, but that historical free expression is gone, erased from history like it never existed.
 
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Both Musk and Zuck must be thrilled that one of their biggest competitors is being pushed out of the US market. All those cozy dinners, bruised knees and sore throats at Mar-a-Lago are paying big dividends.
 
But end users have no control over that, yet they have to suffer the repercussions in the form of a breach of their first amendment rights. Sure, going forward, they can post content elsewhere, but that historical free expression is gone, erased from history like it never existed.
You need to recalibrate your definition of suffering.
 
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