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Why is the government involved in my right to choose crack for my kids, let alone myself? Social media carries similar compulsive behavior, along with the hits of dopamine. Why can’t we have both?
...because social media isn't nearly as lethal as cocaine?

Social media can have some good aspects when used such as being a way to connect with their friends. Giving a kid cocaine has zero possible good aspects.

Yes, there are many issues with social media. But there are also parental controls that can be used to ensure that a kid doesn't go too far.
 
Why is the government involved in my right to choose crack for my kids, let alone myself? Social media carries similar compulsive behavior, along with the hits of dopamine. Why can’t we have both?
Because picking on China is good politics especially in the Center and Southern US. But social media in general is just too popular with the general public.

I’m NOT saying this is rational, I’m just trying to explain the apparent disconnect.
 
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That’s fine with me. Sites Apps can implement a handshake with licenses in Apple Wallet currently. This doesn’t store your personal information on random servers.
Either way, privacy is pretty much a figment of imagination at this point. If you’re concerned about sharing your age (and whatever information may be tied to it) then don’t visit the site.
I’m not worried about a data leak scandal from an affair website as a non-user.

Edit: Verify with Wallet is for apps, not websites. However, I could see Apple building a web version if ID verification becomes more prevalent.
The issue is the implications that ID checks have on anonymous speech. There is no option to just visit another site if ID checks are law. If an individual site wants to check for IDs okay, but the issue is the state requiring it for ALL social platforms.

If there is no anonymous speech, that opens the door for possibly being attacked by the government for being critical of a certain policy online. That's why anonymous speech has enjoyed constitutional protection for a long time.
 
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The issue is the implications that ID checks have on anonymous speech. There is no option to just visit another site if ID checks are law. If an individual site wants to check for IDs okay, but the issue is the state requiring it for ALL social platforms.

If there is no anonymous speech, that opens the door for possibly being attacked by the government for being critical of a certain policy online. That's why anonymous speech has enjoyed constitutional protection for a long time.
This is irrelevant to verification for porn sites. Children are barred from entering adult bookstores, and IDs are checked at a variety of stores. Verify with Wallet is used for car rentals, alcohol-related purchases, and similar… not for social media (afaik). You may extrapolate the premise to other sites, but I’m not talking about them in my posts.
We can address the explosion in underage visitors to porn sites without “muh privacy” of regular websites.
 
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There is no way for Trump to override the law via executive order. The only potential path for him to save TikTok (assuming he actually cares enough to try, which I don't think he does) would be to claim that TikTok has, in fact, executed a "qualified divestiture," and even that would be extremely dubious and likely overturned in court.
Well, that oranges colored guy joined TikTok a while back and that helped him get reelected with young generation via brainwashing, and now he pledged to stop the ban altogether. But like you said, there is no legal way for him to do it unless he tries to pull strings and even then, there is enough congressional support from both sides to override whatever he does on this issue.

And if he manages to take this to SCOTUS and he manages to win, that sets a very dangerous precedent that anything congress can pass can be overridden by SCOTUS, meaning just about any law is about to be challenged.
 
This is irrelevant to verification for porn sites. Children are barred from entering adult bookstores, and IDs are checked at a variety of stores. Verify with Wallet is used for car rentals, alcohol-related purchases, and similar… not for social media (afaik). You may extrapolate the premise to other sites, but I’m not talking about them in my posts.
We can address the explosion in underage visitors to porn sites without “muh privacy” of regular websites.
These laws don't just cover those websites, they apply (in Texas's case) to any website that hosts content where at least a third of content would be considered inappropriate for minors using "contemporary community standards" which is an extremely vague term that could be politically weaponized very easily. (And that is politically weaponized right now) A lot of these laws use vague language that makes it easy to be weaponized.

Now, if you wanted to suggest a law that would require companies turn on filters in web browsers by default, I would be more inclined to support it.
 
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These laws don't just cover those websites, they apply (in Texas's case) to any website that hosts content where at least a third of content would be considered inappropriate for minors using "contemporary community standards" which is an extremely vague term that could be politically weaponized very easily. (And that is politically weaponized right now) A lot of these laws use vague language that makes it easy to be weaponized.

Now, if you wanted to suggest a law that would require companies turn on filters in web browsers by default, I would be more inclined to support it.
At least this threshold gives websites an opportunity to further moderate their content, and avoid the requirements. It’s certainly a heavy undertaking, but compliance is meaningless if the bar is set too low.
I can see where you’re coming from with vague language, and I agree it’s a problem. The lack of shared community values in tandem with dishonest leaders certainly doesn’t help.
 
If you look in on "X" there are so many posts of nut cases from Tik Toc. Mostly Women, some with beards and mustaches who's vistage would disband an EF-5 tornado. As bad as Tik Toc is on so many levels Bluesky is even worse. I am at a loss as what to do about this. Adults are on their own it is the young people that are a worry.
 
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Why is the government involved in my right to choose crack for my kids, let alone myself? Social media carries similar compulsive behavior, along with the hits of dopamine. Why can’t we have both?
Exactly! Why do we allow the government to dictate what others can do, at the point of a gun, with their body? We need to vote better.
 
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You can use VPN to get around country limitations associated with video streaming services, what is the difference from avoiding national geofencing that limits downloading?

Because you can't access other countries' App Stores through a VPN, you would have to change your phone's region.
 
This piece of Chinese spyware needs to be banned entirely from the face of the Earth.
 
I never understood why anyone would install this app.

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Why does a mindless source of "stupid people tricks" need to hoover up all this data? Yes, others like Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. hoover as well, but TikTok is like handing all your data straight to Pooh Bear.

and why is it ok that Meta, Amazon, Google, and Microsoft handle all your data straight to the The Don ?
 
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Nice sentiment but with the recent SCOTUS Presidential immunity ruling it seems a lot that balance of powers concept might have been seriously compromised.

With the recent pardon of a family member of the president, it seems a lot that balance of powers concept might have been seriously compromised.
 
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While you’re at it…..
Ban Facebook as well, now that is a much greater security threat than TikTok is and was, it has been proven over and over again, there’s nothing done about it just because it’s an American company.
Just saying.

And then take that orange boy with it too, an even higher risk.
 
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That is the balance of power. I'm glad we have it. Laws, regulations, and executive power need to be constitutional.

I would personally like this a lot. There's a lot of laws *cough cough* Patriot Act, that should be looked over again.
No, it would be very bad thing. There is reason why SCOTUS rarely, if not ever overturn laws or constitution passed by congress: they are the ultimate rule makers in federal laws. If scotus overturns the laws passed by congress, the whole meaning of having the legislative branch becomes completely moot because then the judicial branch becomes the ultimate lawmaker.

That is too much power in my opinion to let the judicial branch make all the rules, and not let congress do their job.
 
I never understood why anyone would install this app.

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Why does a mindless source of "stupid people tricks" need to hoover up all this data? Yes, others like Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. hoover as well, but TikTok is like handing all your data straight to Pooh Bear.
Kids who don't know better and don't really care and not so well developed adults 😏
 


Popular social network TikTok did not receive a reprieve from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, and it is still facing a ban that is set to be enacted in January, reports The Wall Street Journal.

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TikTok and several of the social network's users challenged an April bill that is forcing Chinese company ByteDance to sell TikTok. The bill provided ByteDance with a nine-month period to sell TikTok to a company outside of China, and if the sale doesn't happen, TikTok won't be able to be distributed in the United States.

TikTok claimed that the bill was unconstitutional because it infringes on free speech, but the court rejected that claim.

While the ban is set to go into effect in January, TikTok is likely to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, seeking an emergency stay. From there, the Supreme Court will decide whether to hear the case.

If TikTok is banned, Google, Apple, and other app distributors will not be able to provide the app for download, nor offer updates to the app. Internet hosting services will also be blocked from supporting the app, giving U.S. users no way to download it. TikTok users will, however, be able to keep using the app so long as it functions.

ByteDance does not plan to sell TikTok, and even if the company complied and did so, China would need to approve the sale. The Chinese government has made it clear that it will firmly oppose any sale of the TikTok app. ByteDance says that it would be impossible to give the TikTok source code to a new owner because it would take years for new engineers to become familiar enough with it to perform routine maintenance.

U.S. lawmakers want TikTok sold to a non-China company over concerns that the Chinese government could force ByteDance to hand over data from users in the United States, and there have also been suggestions that China could use TikTok to spread political propaganda.

Note: Due to the political or social nature of the discussion regarding this topic, the discussion thread is located in our Political News forum. All forum members and site visitors are welcome to read and follow the thread, but posting is limited to forum members with at least 100 posts.

Article Link: TikTok Still On Track for January Ban as Appeals Court Upholds Ruling
Should be banned world wide!!!
 
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