Just curious: how is TikTok any worse than Instagram or YouTube Shorts ? I don’t get it
Well, #47 was actually against the ban as of earlier this year. And some justices (Gorsuch and Kagan) seem to be very skeptical of anything that could be seen to violate the first amendment in any way.
Because it is from China and they are apparently evil.Just curious: how is TikTok any worse than Instagram or YouTube Shorts ? I don’t get it
Tell me you don't understand John Oliver's comedy without telling you don't understand John Oliver's comedy.Oliver's show shares a lot with TikTok - share a 'fact' and then follow it up with a 'joke' before the viewer has even had time to process the 'fact'. It's designed to subconsciously build mental associations that the positions of people Oliver disagrees with are to be laughed at or derided - all while not actually caring about the facts.
It's sort of like the joke of how a shark won't eat a lawyer out of professional courtesy.![]()
So looking into it...Yes, it is a publishing tool. But here in the US we have a right to anonymity when making public statements. In other words, the government is not allowed to demand that you give up your identity when making statements protected by the first amendment.
But it's not that it's just China-based.Because it is from China and they are apparently evil.
Well, to some extent they probably are (as a Government), but I still don’t get why the app 🤷🏻♂️Because it is from China and they are apparently evil.
I'm sure live streaming has been going on for years. But around that time is when I was looking through TikTok (everyone was talking about it, I was bored) and came across those live streams. I never saw that on my Facebook while scrolling.I don’t want to guess how old you are but people livestreamed events long before Tik Tok existed. Facebook live, Twitter, Periscope, YouTube live all did this before Tik Tok. The Arab Spring for example was live-streamed on Facebook live at the time.
The biggest brainwash of all on Tik Tok is people being made to think they need Tik Tok. It made itself indispensable, or at least appeared to be.
The close second biggest brainwash is people relying on Tik Tok for news which is at the core of the danger that this app represents. Its algorithm is controlled by the west’s biggest adversary and people turn to it for information. How people completely miss how dangerous this is is stupefying.
Pretty much. Yet if Trump or Musk want people's data then it's fair play...Because it is from China and they are apparently evil.
Ding, ding, ding! Young people believe what they see live on TikTok, not what they hear from official news sources, which most times paint very different pictures of the same events. Question everything.They want to limit Chinese propaganda but that will also limit US citizens streaming live coverage of events and news stories. I think back during some riots a few years ago, I saw a lot more on TikTok than I did on the evening news.
I'm sure live streaming has been going on for years. But around that time is when I was looking through TikTok (everyone was talking about it, I was bored) and came across those live streams. I never saw that on my Facebook while scrolling.
Good, wish it was banned here in the UK as well.
I see your point, and I didn’t mean to make a straw man argument. My intention was to highlight that society already establishes norms for what is safe for minors to access. While I agree there’s no direct parallel between social media (tell me what is a direct parallel) and something like hard drugs, the comparison was meant to emphasize how we regulate potentially harmful things. Social media, unlike hard drugs, does have some benefits, but its risks—like compulsive use and mental health effects—are significant enough that they may warrant similar scrutiny.Social media, crack, sugar, exercise, reading, tv, movies, rollercoasters… let’s make a list of all the things that can cause “hits of dopamine” and use them in a straw man argument, shall we.
Tik Tok didn't even exist during the Arab Spring. 👀
You have your world events mixed up and this is exactly why it's dangerous to have Americans, particularly American youth, "educated" or "informed" by an algorithm dictated by a hostile adversary.
Just delete it and move on with your life. I've done that.Good, wish it was banned here in the UK as well.
The answer is "addiction".I never understood why anyone would install this app.
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Why does a mindless source of "stupid people tricks" need to hoover up all this data? Yes, others like Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. hoover as well, but TikTok is like handing all your data straight to Pooh Bear.
Easy. Some of the stuff on there is ****ing hilarious.I completely understand why impressionable teens would, adults on the other hand…
But, Orange Donny has vowed to save TikTok. I wonder if he will. And how.
Popular social network TikTok did not receive a reprieve from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, and it is still facing a ban that is set to be enacted in January, reports The Wall Street Journal.
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TikTok and several of the social network's users challenged an April bill that is forcing Chinese company ByteDance to sell TikTok. The bill provided ByteDance with a nine-month period to sell TikTok to a company outside of China, and if the sale doesn't happen, TikTok won't be able to be distributed in the United States.
TikTok claimed that the bill was unconstitutional because it infringes on free speech, but the court rejected that claim.
While the ban is set to go into effect in January, TikTok is likely to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, seeking an emergency stay. From there, the Supreme Court will decide whether to hear the case.
If TikTok is banned, Google, Apple, and other app distributors will not be able to provide the app for download, nor offer updates to the app. Internet hosting services will also be blocked from supporting the app, giving U.S. users no way to download it. TikTok users will, however, be able to keep using the app so long as it functions.
ByteDance does not plan to sell TikTok, and even if the company complied and did so, China would need to approve the sale. The Chinese government has made it clear that it will firmly oppose any sale of the TikTok app. ByteDance says that it would be impossible to give the TikTok source code to a new owner because it would take years for new engineers to become familiar enough with it to perform routine maintenance.
U.S. lawmakers want TikTok sold to a non-China company over concerns that the Chinese government could force ByteDance to hand over data from users in the United States, and there have also been suggestions that China could use TikTok to spread political propaganda.
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Article Link: TikTok Still On Track for January Ban as Appeals Court Upholds Ruling
But previously he was the leading proponent for banning TikTok too. And China is one of his favorite bogeymanBut, Orange Donny has vowed to save TikTok. I wonder if he will. And how.
Just curious: how is TikTok any worse than Instagram or YouTube Shorts ? I don’t get it
Well, I’m not addicted at all, but I used it a bunch of times and it seems like YouTube shorts to meVery toxic algo and content in comparison and designed to be much more addictive.
It's so bad that they won't even allow it in China. The Chinese version of the app is far safer.
I couldn't agree more. Kick this garbage to the curb.Ban it with extreme prejudice. It is crap. It produces brain rot. I would guess it spurs early dementia.
Follow Australia's lead. Ban social media crap like Tik Tok for children and teens up to 16 years old.