It's ironic that the U.S. criticizes China for things they do, but then the U.S. wants or tries to do those same things.
If the U.S. has to become like China to oppose them, then what's the point?
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TikTok to Sue Trump Administration Over US Ban as Soon As Tuesday
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It's ironic that the U.S. criticizes China for things they do, but then the U.S. wants or tries to do those same things.
If the U.S. has to become like China to oppose them, then what's the point?
Communist? Lol
I was shouting health care system, but now I even wonder if you have schools in America? I bet it costs an arm and leg to be properly educated?
But hey, at least you have affordable Jesus Camps...
If you consider banning access to particular apps in the US is akin to becoming "like China", perhaps a read-up on Chinese law and how its government treats its citizens will be of help.
Here are a couple...
1) Blocking people on Twitter:
U.S. Appeals Court Rules Trump Violated 1st Amendment By Blocking Twitter Followers
The judges upheld a lower court decision that found Trump used the platform for official purposes, which precludes him from banning users because they disagree with his views.
www.npr.org
2) Preventing people from peacefully protesting (1st Amendment violation) at Lafayette Square when he ordered his soldiers to tear gas and attack them to clear them out so he could get in a photo op at St. John's Church.
Why Trump is going after TikTok, which was an app that didnt even exist a few months ago, instead of going after other Chinese companies producing and importing electronic products and services in the US for years now? Obviously, he has quite a decen intel on TikTok suggesting that it is full of spyware but they obviously cant reveal how this app stills data because at the end of the day, it would reveal how the US intelligence service collect their intel. Even if you absoletly hate Trump, you should agree that China, a country that reports only 4,6k coronavirus deaths, is not trustworthy in any way or form. Suprisengly or not, the European Union hasnt said a thing and TikTok is widespread in Europe.
No it wont. Apple has more money than it can spend on R&D. Secondly I think TikTok should be banned from the US just like how various US companies are banned in China.
/offtopicHere are a couple...
1) Blocking people on Twitter:
U.S. Appeals Court Rules Trump Violated 1st Amendment By Blocking Twitter Followers
The judges upheld a lower court decision that found Trump used the platform for official purposes, which precludes him from banning users because they disagree with his views.
2) Preventing people from peacefully protesting at Lafayette Square when he ordered his soldiers to tear gas and attack them to clear them out so he could get in a photo op at St. John's Church.
You forgot to mention that St. John's Church was set on fire by these peaceful protestors. Trump then ordered to clear the plaza to protect this historic monument/temple and then finally, he decided decides to go to this churh and make a declaration from there. This is the order in which the situation development. So no, he did not prevent people from peacefully protesting nor he used force in order to take a phone. The photo is just a culmination of a seria of event.
/offtopic
Tik Tok did exist a few months ago. You are just late.
And why do you think that the ban only affects iOS and not Android and their google store?
Why? The Govt doesn't want to just ban it on iPhones. They want it banned all all phones.
Hmm... those lovable chaps over at the NSA... wonder what they're up to these days? Never hear of them...
Right, because xyz "just hasn't done communism right", right? EVERY communist state has FAILED spectacularly. But they just didn't do it right. You can ask my neighbor that escaped Fidel's Cuba about the joys and utopia of communism. But again, it will be probably dismissed. I prefer to reap my own rewards, work for what I have, rather than a "government" providing for me.
He's readying the playing field for his inevitable defeat in November. Create a crisis, divert attention, declare a National Emergency, invoke special powers, suspend the election result and basically remain as President despite having lost. One thing that One-Term-Trump doesn't like, and that's being a Loser.
Then get rid of Facebook and Google as well amongst many others.
I don't get these comments, really, Tiktok is right to sue.
Look at your own NSA, and what is that other nasty one...let me think, can't recall, if I know I will edit this post.
Edit: Acxiom
There has never been a communist state. Lenin's Russia was working towards it and then it was quickly corrupted into a dictatorship. Communism likely could not work in a poor country like that, it needs a rich nation that can pump more money into automation so the people can work towards bettering everyone. If there is no democracy then there is no communism. The closest and most likely candidates we have just now is Western Europe where we have strong social nets and are looking to things like having your minimum income provided by the government then you work the job you want to pay for the more lavish things you'd want to buy. Free university to improve the nations wealth and free medical care are also required and he currently have these in Scotland.
I know it is scary that someone might be able to have the same as you, and being able to afford the same holidays as you and same schools as your children. But it'll come eventually and people will stop giving a monkeys about someone they deem poorer/lesser being able to afford the same stuff as them.
There's more, of course:Here are a couple...
1) Blocking people on Twitter:
U.S. Appeals Court Rules Trump Violated 1st Amendment By Blocking Twitter Followers
The judges upheld a lower court decision that found Trump used the platform for official purposes, which precludes him from banning users because they disagree with his views.
2) Preventing people from peacefully protesting (1st Amendment violation) at Lafayette Square when he ordered his soldiers to tear gas and attack them to clear them out so he could get in a photo op at St. John's Church.
Violating the Emoluments clause:
Federal Court Rules Trump Violated the Constitution's Emoluments Clauses
www.politicususa.com
Violated the Constitution by taking money from the Pentagon to pay for his border wall (I thought Mexico was supposed to pay for that?)
Court Says Trump Violated Constitution With Border Wall Cash Grab - The Ring of Fire Network
The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that Trump violated the Constitution by stealing money from the Pentagon in order to fund his ridiculous border wall. This means that, pending appeal, the $2.5 billion that Trump thought he could spend is now tied up in limbo, hopefully long enough to...
trofire.com
Violates Constitutions "Separation of Powers" - three times in one week
Fox News Legal Analyst Says Trump Violated 'Separation of Powers'
"It is dangerous when presidents write their own laws, impose their own taxes, spend money how they want and Congress looks the other way," Andrew Napolitano, Fox News' senior judicial analyst, said.
www.newsweek.com
Believes a clause in the Constitution to by "Phony" so he need not abide by it.
How Trump disparages the Constitution
Mr. Trump referred to a clause in the Constitution as “phony,” and he thereby implied that he need not abide it nor enforce it, notwithstanding his oath.
And more... so much more.
To anyone who has said this will affect Apple and Chinese users buying iPhones... the answer is no. As someone else alluded to in their post, there are regional App Stores. I have used an iPhone purchased from China and signed in to my Canadian iTunes account, and I could still download apps like YouTube and Twitter despite them being banned in China. So TikTok being banned in the US does nothing to Chinese users who can just make a secondary iTunes account if they're in the US and using a US account, and isn't even on the radar of Mainland Chinese.
Not completely true. TikTok is known by another name in China, I believe the name is "Dou Yin," and it is stupidly popular over here. I can't count how many people I've heard on the metro/subway using the app because they have their phone volume on full blast and are not using headphones... UGH...
I believe in equality of opportunity. Not necessarily of outcome. You can’t just expect things to be given to you for merely existing. Hard work is something that I will always hold in high esteem. Sloth and entitlement are not values I personally subscribe to. But good luck.
You think you get a free ride in a communist and socialist society? Are you daft? You work like everyone else and put in even more work to better yourself and everyone in society. If you collect the bins that is just as important a job as maintaining law or performing surgery. People will still do what they love, perhaps even more so as the barrier to entry is lowered and your worth is based of your contribution not your bank account.
That you think hard work should only be done for a bigger paycheque is a sad reflection on your society. Why on Earth would you not want to better yourself and your society?
So you are all dying in corona… and Trump goes after dancing girls in a stupid app??
Hm, let's see. 92% of Chinese said in a poll that they would change phones if the Apple Appstore didn't provide Wechat. That amounts to a 30% drop in world wide sales. Seriously good move! The world stands in awe of the American wisdom and leadership!
Hm, let's see. 92% of Chinese said in a poll that they would change phones if the Apple Appstore didn't provide Wechat. That amounts to a 30% drop in world wide sales. Seriously good move! The world stands in awe of the American wisdom and leadership!
I don't think a lot of posters in this thread realise how big Tencent and WeChat is around the world. TikTok is a nothing, it's entertainment with no risk to national security anywhere, other than being used to mock Trump.
If Trump bans WeChat from iOS, then I'm not sure Apple will be happy to sit back and accept a 30% hit in worldwide sales, and 100% hit on sales in China because of the foot stomping of the man child in the White House.
If Trump bans WeChat from iOS, then I'm not sure Apple will be happy to sit back and accept a 30% hit in worldwide sales, and 100% hit on sales in China because of the foot stomping of the man child in the White House.
