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I hope you are realising that if Apple has to remove these apps from the app store globally that they will incur a huge loss of income. And a huge a loss of income will result in less R&D money and new products.

Yea for sure we will feel very sad that Apple will be making 5 billions less a year.
 
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You think you get a free ride in a communist and socialist society? Are you daft? You work like everyone else and put in even more work to better yourself and everyone in society. If you collect the bins that is just as important a job as maintaining law or performing surgery. People will still do what they love, perhaps even more so as the barrier to entry is lowered and your worth is based of your contribution not your bank account.

That you think hard work should only be done for a bigger paycheque is a sad reflection on your society. Why on Earth would you not want to better yourself and your society?

Nice try of bringing common sense into a MR discussion! :)
 
Meanwhile at the Titkok head offices in Beijing...

The idea that they are not an important source of intelligence for the communists is naive. But what is far worse is the attempt to shape young minds with CCP talking points. Video sharing is only a front for what they do.

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Oh the app costs money or what is Apple losing here? I thought the app is free.
Without wechat they will lose 99% of all Chinese customers. A cellphone without wechat is pretty much useless in China. And China is good for about 20-30% of Apples sales.
 
There has never been a communist state. Lenin's Russia was working towards it and then it was quickly corrupted into a dictatorship. Communism likely could not work in a poor country like that, it needs a rich nation that can pump more money into automation so the people can work towards bettering everyone. If there is no democracy then there is no communism. The closest and most likely candidates we have just now is Western Europe where we have strong social nets and are looking to things like having your minimum income provided by the government then you work the job you want to pay for the more lavish things you'd want to buy. Free university to improve the nations wealth and free medical care are also required and he currently have these in Scotland.

I know it is scary that someone might be able to have the same as you, and being able to afford the same holidays as you and same schools as your children. But it'll come eventually and people will stop giving a monkeys about someone they deem poorer/lesser being able to afford the same stuff as them.

Western Europe is crumbling and has numerous issues with decades of “socialist” policies. Your so called “strong social nets” are only temporary, in the end every socialist state fails and Europe is on that exactly stage right now. European here that was lucky enough to migrate to the superior USA and had the chance to compare both places and definitely the US (south and Midwest) is the best place to be right now.
 
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Without wechat they will lose 99% of all Chinese customers. A cellphone without wechat is pretty much useless in China. And China is good for about 20-30% of Apples sales.

Sorry, I was only referring to tiktok at the time of the post as it’s the topic of the article. We chat is a different animal for sure, although the worker with having a second login from another country may be the workaround there.
 
Man all these never-Trumpers that still complain about the “foreign collusion” of 2016 are suddenly ok with Chinese spyware if Trump is the one banning it?

These people have lost their minds.

Don’t think I read any takers for Spyware. Even potential Spyware which we are currently discussing seems rather unpopular. Trump is unpopular for a variety of reasons which I’m sure will come to mind when you think about the recent years.
 
Western Europe is crumbling and has numerous issues with decades of “socialist” policies. Your so called “strong social nets” are only temporary, in the end every socialist state fails and Europe is on that exactly stage right now. European here that was lucky enough to migrate to the superior USA and had the chance to compare both places and definitely the US (south and Midwest) is the best place to be right now.

European here that shakes his head. Crumbling is the nicest word that comes to mind when I think about the US. And I lived outside of Europe long enough myself to see the differences.
 
glad too see gov't focused on issues that are really important and ignoring the 1000 Americans per day that are dying ....
 
European here that shakes his head. Crumbling is the nicest word that comes to mind when I think about the US. And I lived outside of Europe long enough myself to see the differences.

Exactly. In that context one has to understand that Trump is not the reason for US becoming a failed state. He is a symptom.
 
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I don't think the general public really understands the scope of the issue.


Sorry, I was only referring to tiktok at the time of the post as it’s the topic of the article. We chat is a different animal for sure, although the worker with having a second login from another country may be the workaround there.
 
European here that shakes his head. Crumbling is the nicest word that comes to mind when I think about the US. And I lived outside of Europe long enough myself to see the differences.

Shake your head all you want. Fact is I have lived in both places and I can judge better than a European who hasn't lived in the US at all. Europe provides a false sense of security and "social net". If you have never lived in the US how can you form an objective opinion?
 
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I take it that you are from Belarus, Bulgaria or some other less developed part of Europe? Typically, people in Norway or Germany do not see any benefits in a country defined by gun violence, rampant crime, massive prison industries, the death penalty, the use of torture… that is the flawed democracy and the failed state called the USA where you have to register to take part in the most basic form of democracy, namely voting, and where the state actively tries to stop you from using your vote, and where the president tells you to inhale bleach to treat corona…

As a European living in one of the better countries in EU, and having lived for years in the US, and also having lived for years in China, i can tell you with some confidence that that American dream is nothing but a pipe dream these days. The US has since long lost its attractiveness, although the philosophical idea of America is still vivid.

China is by far more attractive, and this is despite having less political feedoms and virtually no social net, especially not for foreigners. China is going forward rather than backward, and it is a lot safer. The people are generally much more friendly.

Shake your head all you want. Fact is I have lived in both places and I can judge better than a European who hasn't lived in the US at all. Europe provides a false sense of security and "social net". If you have never lived in the US how can you form an objective opinion?
 
I take it that you are from Belarus, Bulgaria or some other less developed part of Europe? Typically, people in Norway or Germany do not see any benefits in a country defined by gun violence, rampant crime, massive prison industries, the death penalty, the use of torture… that is the flawed democracy and the failed state called the USA where you have to register to take part in the most basic form of democracy, namely voting, and where the state actively tries to stop you from using your vote, and where the president tells you to inhale bleach to treat corona…

As a European living in one of the better countries in EU, and having lived for years in the US, and also having lived for years in China, i can tell you with some confidence that that American dream is nothing but a pipe dream these days. The US has since long lost its attractiveness, although the philosophical idea of America is still vivid.

China is by far more attractive, and this is despite having less political feedoms and virtually no social net, especially not for foreigners. China is going forward rather than backward, and it is a lot safer. The people are generally much more friendly.

I am from Mediterranean actually. But I know Europe very well and the politics behind it. The USA is only failing because of the socialist infiltration for decades now and thanks to people like you that are voting for progressives and globalists they are responsible for the decline of this once great nation. If this type of infiltration had never happened, this country would be the best place on earth as it was before. And just FYI, I will trade all the comforts and the "social nets" that Europe is providing for the right of self protection by owning and carrying firearm lawfully. For that right and only, the USA holds the title of the best country in the world.
 
OK, so you are from Albania. Figures.

Most people would prefer to live where you don't need guns, where you don't even need to lock the door at night. But of course, if you are from a war torn Balkan state like Serbia and have amassed a lot of enemies, I can understand your sentiment…

I am from Mediterranean actually. But I know Europe very well and the politics behind it. The USA is only failing because of the socialist infiltration for decades now and thanks to people like you that are voting for progressives and globalists they are responsible for the decline of this once great nation. If this type of infiltration had never happened, this country would be the best place on earth as it was before. And just FYI, I will trade all the comforts and the "social nets" that Europe is providing for the right of self protection by owning and carrying firearm lawfully. For that right and only, the USA holds the title of the best country in the world.
 
I take it that you are from Belarus, Bulgaria or some other less developed part of Europe? Typically, people in Norway or Germany do not see any benefits in a country defined by gun violence, rampant crime, massive prison industries, the death penalty, the use of torture… that is the flawed democracy and the failed state called the USA where you have to register to take part in the most basic form of democracy, namely voting, and where the state actively tries to stop you from using your vote, and where the president tells you to inhale bleach to treat corona…

As a European living in one of the better countries in EU, and having lived for years in the US, and also having lived for years in China, i can tell you with some confidence that that American dream is nothing but a pipe dream these days. The US has since long lost its attractiveness, although the philosophical idea of America is still vivid.

China is by far more attractive, and this is despite having less political feedoms and virtually no social net, especially not for foreigners. China is going forward rather than backward, and it is a lot safer. The people are generally much more friendly.


Chinese Propaganda at it's best. There are literally hundreds of social media videos out there from people who are both living in China and have recently lived in China for many years making videos on what China is actually like from those who are and have experienced it for real and it is nowhere close to what you say. China is not an atractive place to live and neither is it safe.

If the Tik Tok ban is only regional then watch an increase in people using stolen user data to make accounts that allow them to bypass a regional ban.
 
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Western Europe is crumbling and has numerous issues with decades of “socialist” policies. Your so called “strong social nets” are only temporary, in the end every socialist state fails and Europe is on that exactly stage right now. European here that was lucky enough to migrate to the superior USA and had the chance to compare both places and definitely the US (south and Midwest) is the best place to be right now.
Western Europe crumbling! Hilarious! The superior USA! The US used to be admired and respected, but under Trump it's become laughable, increasingly irrelevant and is now mostly pitied.
Here's a picture of the Leader of the Free World - meeting One-Term-Trump - enjoy!

 
OK, so you are from Albania. Figures.

Most people would prefer to live where you don't need guns, where you don't even need to lock the door at night. But of course, if you are from a war torn Balkan state like Serbia and have amassed a lot of enemies, I can understand your sentiment…

So you're saying people that live in Europe and China don't need self protection at all and they don't get killed by the hands of criminals? That happens only in the US? Are you kidding me?!
 
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