Great response by Cook. I wish we had a person of his thoughtfulness and intelligence leading our country, rather than the garbage bag of dog feces we currently have.
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Tim Cook Addresses George Floyd's Death and Ensuing Protests and Riots as Apple Temporarily Closes Some U.S. Stores
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Seeing many of the replies here gives me hope. Are we not giving the enemy exactly what he wants when we destroy each other? When we tear down the very people that want to stand with us, are we not falling farther and farther from unity? We are stronger together than we ever are divided. There are plenty of evil people secretly reveling in this destruction happening across the US right now. When we stand together -- and I mean truly stand together -- THAT'S what gives the enemy something to fear.
A portion of people in every occupation is bad, so I guess every career field is damaged.
I have seen quite a few “Get Rid of the Police” signs being held up during these protests. If we really took that advice it’s a good thing we still have our second amendment right because it‘s going to be the Wild West. Every man, woman and child for themselves. Do people even think these things through when they call for stuff like just getting rid of the police? It would be a total free for all and society would quickly collapse.
And another interesting view from Twitter where white people in masks are turning a peaceful demonstration into something else:
New York police officers kneel with protesters | CNN
In the midst of protests and destruction around the nation, a moving scene unfolded Sunday in New York when some of the city’s police officers knelt with protesters.
A sheriff put down his baton to listen to protesters. They chanted 'walk with us,' so he did | CNN
A Michigan sheriff joined protesters in Flint Township on Saturday, putting down his weapons and saying, "I want to make this a parade, not a protest."
Based on your logic, the good cops should get credit for a good 200-300k based on those two stories alone...
The rest are complicit in not organizing to fire those cops and drive them out of positions of power. There can be no complacency when one stands by and allows abuse of power.
One should always take care of the pain and mess in one's house (own country) before shaking a finger at someone else's issues/faults. injustice is that anywhere in of itself. Waving a finger somewhere else where financial freedoms maybe encroached upon vs dealing with unjust killings at home ... just makes Apple/Cook look hypocritical and as he's stated "As difficult as it may be to admit, that desire is itself a sign of privilege."
“Normal” is not having to check the news 3 times a day to see what you missed. It will calm down as soon as reality tv host is out of the WH.
One change that needs to happen is a move away from the language of segregation and (inadvertent) prejudice. Cook and others mean well, but we have to stop categorising people by their colour, race, creed, sex, culture, title, etc. No one should ever use terms like white, black, or brown to describe another human being: those very terms classify and systematise and stigmatise, allowing all forms of discrimination to be perpetuated and rationalised. We are all people togetherand we are all due the same rights and respects.
Beyond issues of evident prejudice (racism, sexism, etc), we also have to address the casual discrimination of segregating people by title. Never address anyone as Ms or Mr or Sir or Dr or anything else that classifies or commoditises them. All of those terms should be regarded as being as offensive as any of the words that we already think of as being racist or sexist or otherwise discriminatory.
You can only change the world if you include and view everyone as being equal and with equal rights. Call them by their name, but never use a title that discriminates against them by assigning them a role, a gender, a colour, a term that suggests they are somehow different to you in terms of a social position, etc. Never, never, never.
I am fighting with the companies I engage with to ask them to stop using any title when addressing me. Commonly I am told the system requires a title to be entered. When I point out that giving a title is the first step to division and categorisation, some people start to see the logic, but are still closed down by the pervasiveness of the system and society we work in. That has to stop. Now.
We are starting to do this with pronouns, and we need to extend it across the whole language we use when addressing each other: no form of respect can start with a term that compartmentalises another human being.
Certainly wish that forms like this would not allow people to use titles on user names. Utterly wrong
Beyond issues of evident prejudice (racism, sexism, etc), we also have to address the casual discrimination of segregating people by title. Never address anyone as Ms or Mr or Sir or Dr or anything else that classifies or commoditises them. All of those terms should be regarded as being as offensive as any of the words that we already think of as being racist or sexist or otherwise discriminatory.
You can only change the world if you include and view everyone as being equal and with equal rights. Call them by their name, but never use a title that discriminates against them by assigning them a role, a gender, a colour, a term that suggests they are somehow different to you in terms of a social position, etc. Never, never, never.
I am fighting with the companies I engage with to ask them to stop using any title when addressing me. Commonly I am told the system requires a title to be entered. When I point out that giving a title is the first step to division and categorisation, some people start to see the logic, but are still closed down by the pervasiveness of the system and society we work in. That has to stop. Now.
We are starting to do this with pronouns, and we need to extend it across the whole language we use when addressing each other: no form of respect can start with a term that compartmentalises another human being.
Certainly wish that forms like this would not allow people to use titles on user names. Utterly wrong
Everyone has a manager or boss so you’re literally describing everyone with a job. Many cops are good but they’ve lost all trust as a group and the public demands action. Honestly, many I know don’t care if they get killed on duty or just fired. They just want them gone. That means a massive retraining and purge is required before they can regain public trust
Therein lies the debate of which group started the public violence and looting. regardless whomever is continuing is hurting their own community they live in. Before a full martial law sets in, which may in action already have, can get really violent once again and nobody will win. No real change will benefit.
I can accept extrajudicial murder but I draw the line at property damage
This isn't just 1 police officer ... Floyd's body was kneed under secondary restraint by 2 other officers behind the police SUV as well as another office standing keeping '6' (watch) and doing nothing to the cries of a man dying.
I'm trying to find the video, not sure if it was WCCO's news channel or not, of a 31 yr old man, shouting with an older man about the riots and talking to young 16yr old stating to him that in years to come if there is no change in society that HE"LL be there in 10yrs protesting. He says to the youth ... We need to change our mindset, we need to make change.
Thank you for highlighting this type of behaviour. When the dust settles, and all the damage is shown, this would simply look like the work of black people.
I suspect this happens a lot in these situations, and is likely another white privilege situation: The following day, those two white females will continue their day-to-day as normal, while the black people are held to account for damage and trashing of their neighbourhoods and property that they didn't even do.
It sucks.
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This is always the case. When there are a huge amount of people gathering, there will always be bad actors taking advantage of the situations. It's unfortunate and sad as it diluted (a LOT) the real message behind the actual protests.
Sometimes, you can tell preemptively the kinds of organizations/groups of people that are promoting these kind of behaviors. The way certain groups/institutions are "teaching"/"rallying" their followers can be a sign.
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There is no point in paraphrasing Dr Martin Luther King because in my opinion most of today's black youth have no idea who the man was or what he represented.
I'm pretty sure Tim Cook did not have it peachy keen growing up as a closeted gay male in the south. I absolutely believe Tim Cook is a humanitarian. He is not just writing this letter to save face or to get more sales from black buyers. When was the last time you read a report about Michael Dell or Satya Nadella visiting the factories in China?
Hey Macrumors, instead of posting a photo and self-serving message from this egotistical multimillionaire (and company), why don’t you name and tell us about the “groups challenging racial injustice and protecting human rights” that Apple is supporting; and let us know how much Apple is donating to them?
Sorry (not sorry), but this is pathetically insensitive reporting to focus so much on this rich white guy without investigating the stated commitment. Nobody really cares what he says (because most of what he says is corporate non-speak), only what he does. Like seriously!
The fact is, he and others have been saying similar things for years, but nothing changes. Why is that? Do they really care about social justice or only promoting their brand and increasing their obscene bonuses? Apple doesn’t care about social justice, only their precious stores and profits. And they’ll take any opportunity to self-promote, even in the face of nation-wide revolt.
For shame MacRumors! Enough is enough. And I say that about racism and injustices in my own country, where similar things have happened and continue to happen.
I get that your lowly-paid article monkeys can’t normally do much in the way of investigative journalism, but this calls for an extra effort. Don’t pander to the almighty dollar. Do you have a heart and soul?
Sorry (not sorry), but this is pathetically insensitive reporting to focus so much on this rich white guy without investigating the stated commitment. Nobody really cares what he says (because most of what he says is corporate non-speak), only what he does. Like seriously!
The fact is, he and others have been saying similar things for years, but nothing changes. Why is that? Do they really care about social justice or only promoting their brand and increasing their obscene bonuses? Apple doesn’t care about social justice, only their precious stores and profits. And they’ll take any opportunity to self-promote, even in the face of nation-wide revolt.
For shame MacRumors! Enough is enough. And I say that about racism and injustices in my own country, where similar things have happened and continue to happen.
I get that your lowly-paid article monkeys can’t normally do much in the way of investigative journalism, but this calls for an extra effort. Don’t pander to the almighty dollar. Do you have a heart and soul?
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It's how MANY cops really are. Far too many. The problem is systemic and widespread. There certainly are a lot of good cops, but if your first instinct is to defend those cops instead of acknowledging the problem, you are doing more harm than good. Systemic change in how police officers are recruited, trained, armed, and disciplined is needed. People arguing that it's just a few bad apples stand in the way of that necessary change.
Tim Cook is actually better than Jobs, who actually really didn't care about the labor conditions.
I agree with this, because I saw a (former) friend totally change as a result of his police academy training. There’s every chance he had simmering racism, sexism and chauvinism but this was largely hidden or suppressed. When he became a cop it was (evidently) encouraged or promoted because he’d totally changed. He gloated about chasing and arresting black people. I never saw or spoke to him again after that (my choice). He’s what you might call a “%{^%”.
Tim is not exactly god.. he can't raise his hands and all of a sudden everyone gets better.