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LOL time will tell, won't it. No time like the present to start bashing the future?
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That's probably up for revision considering all his legal problems after he leaves office.

Since grownups vote nationally, Ocasio will not be the future beyond her little corner of New York City.
 
Since grownups vote nationally, Ocasio will not be the future beyond her little corner of New York City.

Humans cannot foretell our future accurately, no matter if we are historians or visionaries. The world was made round so that we'd not have to --nor be able to-- see very far down the road. So behold the excitement and responsibilities of being humans with capability to remember the past, guess at the future, cope with the present and either celebrate or mourn any of it as we wish.
 
That explains Trump..
Maybe. He'as the duly elected president of the United 43 million Americans voted for him, so there's that.

You can't say that about Occasio Cortez.
Uh, if a failed TV game show host can win a national election, anyone can.
I don't think you can consider The Apprentice a failure.

I personally hope Occasio runs for national office and does so as soon as possible.

The more Occasio, the better.
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Humans cannot foretell our future accurately, no matter if we are historians or visionaries. The world was made round so that we'd not have to --nor be able to-- see very far down the road. So behold the excitement and responsibilities of being humans with capability to remember the past, guess at the future, cope with the present and either celebrate or mourn any of it as we wish.
Sure.
 
He’s still a millionaire

The fact is that we don't know what he is as he hasn't shown his tax returns and he is an habitual liar.
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Since grownups vote nationally, Ocasio will not be the future beyond her little corner of New York City.

That right wing media has chosen to focus a smear campaign on her this early in her career just shows that they are afraid of her and what she represents.
 
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The fact is that we don't know what he is as he hasn't shown his tax returns and he is an habitual liar.
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That right wing media has chosen to focus a smear campaign on her this early in her career just shows that they are afraid of her and what she represents.
She’s mocked because she’s a fool:

Unemployment is low bacause people have two jobs: https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...dria-ocasio-cortez-wrong-several-counts-abou/

Inability to name the three branches of government: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...sio-cortez-couldnt-name-3-branches-government

I posted elsewhere that I want her to run nationally.

I want Ocasio all the time and everywhere.

I want all Democrats to run just like her

Not scared; I welcome it.
 
I don't think you can consider The Apprentice a failure.

One of the most prescient examples of what a Trump presidency would be like could be seen in his insistent claims that the Apprentice was the number 1 show on television, or on the night it aired, when in fact it was around the 70th highest rated show by the time it ended and was coming in third in its time period.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ad...cade-celebrity-apprentice-ratings-175694/amp/
 
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One of the most prescient examples of what a Trump presidency would be like could be seen in his insistent claims that the Apprentice was the number 1 show on television, or on the night it aired, when in fact it was around the 70th highest rated show by the time it ended and was coming in third in its time period.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ad...cade-celebrity-apprentice-ratings-175694/amp/
It’s irrelevant. He’s the duly elected President of the United States. 43 million Americans voted for him. Let that sink in. Unless you’re posting this from Europe. Then you’re just irrelevant to the discussion.
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As opposed to our intelligent, learned, studious and honest POTUS?
The post and subject is about her; not Trump.

If you want to rail on Trump, there are other postings for you to troll.
 
It’s irrelevant. He’s the duly elected President of the United States. 43 million Americans voted for him. Let that sink in. Unless you’re posting this from Europe. Then you’re just irrelevant to the discussion.
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The post and subject is about her; not Trump.

If you want to rail on Trump, there are other postings for you to troll.

The thread title refers to Tim Cook and Ivanka Trump. The latter is the President's daughter so it's not at all surprising that her father gets a few references in any thread about her official position, which I categorize as afforded her by virtue of nepotism.

Mind you I've already noted earlier in this thread that I don't object to all of Ivanka's views or even to all of her official activities, and that includes her advocacy for more focus on STEM education in rural areas.

Sure it's true that if someone just wants to rail on Donald Trump as a President rather than rail on him as a President whose nepotism has brought the wondrous Ivanka out to rural Idaho with Tim Cook to check out how Apple's donated computing equipment has been put to educational use,,,, there are other threads in which one might do that. Just as there are other threads in which one might in passing decide to take a swipe at some newly elected congresswoman, say... Ocasio-Cortez... before resuming a discussion of the main topic at hand.

If you can dish out digressions while managing somehow (like the rest of us) to reference the original post or its thread topic at least every so often, great. But why not demo you do realize that others are capable of that as well? How you do that is just slide back to the thread topic at early convenience, since anyone can get distracted and inadvertently help take a discussion "off topic" now and then.

Frankly I have noticed a pattern on these boards of Trump admirers being quick to call out "off topic!" when it's their idol taking a beating, but having no qualms introducing extraneous comments of their own in hammering on pols of the other party whenever it suits them to do so. Most of us don't bother getting all hot under the collar over this stuff. But, that could change if you guys don't figure what's good for the goose is just as good for the gander. Just sayin'.
 
It’s irrelevant. He’s the duly elected President of the United States. 43 million Americans voted for him. Let that sink in. Unless you’re posting this from Europe. Then you’re just irrelevant to the discussion.

Yes, he’s the president, which I find profoundly embarrassing (as it should any rational American). And his daughter, who is just as unqualified for her job as he is for his, is the subject of this discussion only because more than 60 million American voters (not 43 million) were dumb enough to vote for an amoral TV game show host for president.
 
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Yes, he’s the president, which I find profoundly embarrassing (as it should any rational American). And his daughter, who is just as unqualified for her job as he is for his, is the subject of this discussion only because more than 60 million American voters (not 43 million) were dumb enough to vote for an amoral TV game show host for president.

I wasn't going to call attention to that figure, since I was sort of enjoying it. :D

But, the truth will always out in the end, eh?
 
It’s irrelevant. He’s the duly elected President of the United States. 43 million Americans voted for him. Let that sink in. Unless you’re posting this from Europe. Then you’re just irrelevant to the discussion.

You said "I don't think you can consider The Apprentice a failure" and someone responded to that statement. Hardly irrelevant.

Also, Trump's incompetence and criminality impact the whole world. It's relevant for Europeans and their views are welcome here.

Finally, we're now learning more details of exactly how those 43 million Americans were duped into voting for Trump.

The post and subject is about her; not Trump.

If you want to rail on Trump, there are other postings for you to troll.

Did someone put you in charge of this board?
 
Yes, he’s the president, which I find profoundly embarrassing (as it should any rational American). And his daughter, who is just as unqualified for her job as he is for his, is the subject of this discussion only because more than 60 million American voters (not 43 million) were dumb enough to vote for an amoral TV game show host for president.
Sorry, but your view lost.

Better luck in two years.
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You said "I don't think you can consider The Apprentice a failure" and someone responded to that statement. Hardly irrelevant.

Also, Trump's incompetence and criminality impact the whole world. It's relevant for Europeans and their views are welcome here.

Finally, we're now learning more details of exactly how those 43 million Americans were duped into voting for Trump.



Did someone put you in charge of this board?
Please, by all means, continue to bang on your high chair with your wooden spoon and cry.

Better luck in 2020.
 
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The fact is that we don't know what he is as he hasn't shown his tax returns and he is an habitual liar.
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That right wing media has chosen to focus a smear campaign on her this early in her career just shows that they are afraid of her and what she represents.

Who ISNT afraid of Occasio other than goofball socialists? Shes borderline retarded. Have you heard the crap that comes out of her hole? My goodness, its so stupid that you have to question if shes a "joke" thats been planted into the Govt just for some laughs. Her college and various other education centers shes attended owe her a refund & an explanation. Something went wrong.

There is no smear campaign required. Just let her shoot her mouth off and she smears herself quite completely. One of my favorite quotes from her, and believe me there are TONS of them is: "Well, unemployment is low because everyone has two jobs". <<<<< :D

Her political goals are pretty simple - Steal money from productive people and redistribute it however she and her bleeding heart buddies see fit. Free everything for everyone forever. 100% pure socilalist/communist. Good luck making her the face of the Democratic party. That'd be hilarious.
 
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Who ISNT afraid of Occasio other than goofball socialists? Shes borderline retarded. Have you heard the crap that comes out of her hole? My goodness, its so stupid that you have to question if shes a "joke" thats been planted into the Govt just for some laughs. Her college and various other education centers shes attended owe her a refund & an explanation. Something went wrong.

There is no smear campaign required. Just let her shoot her mouth off and she smears herself quite completely. One of my favorite quotes from her, and believe me there are TONS of them is: "Well, unemployment is low because everyone has two jobs". <<<<< :D

Her political goals are pretty simple - Steal money from productive people and redistribute it however she and her bleeding heart buddies see fit. Free everything for everyone forever. 100% pure socilalist/communist. Good luck making her the face of the Democratic party. That'd be hilarious.

Use of the word “retarded” like this is incredibly offensive.
 
Who ISNT afraid of Occasio other than goofball socialists? Shes borderline retarded...Good luck making her the face of the Democratic party. That'd be hilarious.

If we want to be even handed, the stable genius Trump is a continuous source of statements revealing how ignorant he is of the government and the Constitution (as well as tariffs, health care, etc.) and apparently can't focus enough to read a single page of information.

And she's not the "face of the party." She's just one of many new Democrats in Congress next year. The right wing media is trying to make her the face of the party so they can smear it as being extremist.
 
The fact is that we don't know what he is as he hasn't shown his tax returns and he is an habitual liar.

Tax returns do not show worth. Donald Trump has already filed three financial disclosures with the FEC, which give you a minimum value for this net worth (as the maximum figure for each asset is $50 million). Even if you go by his minimum net worth, he's over a billion.
 
Tax returns do not show worth. Donald Trump has already filed three financial disclosures with the FEC, which give you a minimum value for this net worth (as the maximum figure for each asset is $50 million). Even if you go by his minimum net worth, he's over a billion.

Federal rules require Trump to list personal debt but not debt his companies owe. So we don't have a complete picture. Plus with Trump one has to take anything he says or any document he or his shady cohorts produce with a lot of skepticism.
 
Who ISNT afraid of Occasio other than goofball socialists? Shes borderline retarded. Have you heard the crap that comes out of her hole? My goodness, its so stupid that you have to question if shes a "joke" thats been planted into the Govt just for some laughs. Her college and various other education centers shes attended owe her a refund & an explanation. Something went wrong.

There is no smear campaign required. Just let her shoot her mouth off and she smears herself quite completely. One of my favorite quotes from her, and believe me there are TONS of them is: "Well, unemployment is low because everyone has two jobs". <<<<< :D

Her political goals are pretty simple - Steal money from productive people and redistribute it however she and her bleeding heart buddies see fit. Free everything for everyone forever. 100% pure socilalist/communist. Good luck making her the face of the Democratic party. That'd be hilarious.
I do hope she becomes the face of the Democratic party. I want Ocasio all the time—24-7.

She’s what the Democratic party has become; they should just embrace her.
 
This is simply not an accurate statement but is illustrative of the attempt to use her to smear the whole party.
Look at the most prominent dem pols this cycle: her, Stacy Abrams, Robert O’Rourke, Sinema...

All unapologetic leftist.

Again, nobody is smearing Ocasio. She just says incredibly stupid and ignorant things. She’s a walking gaffe machine and an intellectual joke.

She’s welcome to rule the roost in her little corner of NYC, but to the national audience who is mildly informed and educated, she’s a bloody fool. She makes Trump look like f’ing Einstein.
 
Look at the most prominent dem pols this cycle: her, Stacy Abrams, Robert O’Rourke, Sinema...

All unapologetic leftist.

Good for them. They came very close to winning in traditionally GOP states. You are using "leftist" as an insult, and to imply some kind of extremism, but not everyone thinks the purpose of government is to give more money to the top 1% and take away health care from millions of people.
 
Good for them. They came very close to winning in traditionally GOP states. You are using "leftist" as an insult, and to imply some kind of extremism, but not everyone thinks the purpose of government is to give more money to the top 1% and take away health care from millions of people.
Leftist is an insult. See, Venezuela.

The truth is the left's politics are driven by resentment--"those people have more money than us--not fair--get them!"

When the government takes your property by force, which is what excessive taxation and redistribution is, it's tyranny.
 
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