Tim Cook Calls Apple's Tax Avoidance Accusations 'Total Political Crap'

[1458279]

What no one believes that a private handout is a handout? I certainly do.

I bought my house with a private handout - as did everyone else I know who owns their own home and is under 35.

Not to boast too much but my incomes in the top 10% too. Pretty much everyone I know is successful and works hard.

I not only bought my house under 35 by myself, but I managed to pay it off in full in less than 3 years without anyone's help.
That's the difference, I don't wear diapers, I don't cry victim, I don't depend on others for my success.

If you aren't strong enough or smart enough as a human to get things done, that's fine. But some humans are actually strong and smart, they can do things without the government's help.
In fact, that's how America got started we formed a more perfect union. You seem to want a more perfect addiction to what American stood up against.

 

[Eraserhead]

I not only bought my house under 35 by myself, but I managed to pay it off in full in less than 3 years without anyone's help.
That's the difference, I don't wear diapers, I don't cry victim, I don't depend on others for my success.

One of my friends worked his way up from a council estate and now earns six figures working for a large technology company and can't afford a house. I guess he doesn't work hard enough.

The reason you paid your house off in three years is because prices were more reasonable then.

 

[zin]

Way to go off the deep end there.

Do you have anything to add besides that? Are you saying what I've said is wrong?

Then why do you still maintain that you shouldn't be paying for the education of children in public schools?

 

[samiwas]

I'd bet lunch money that he doesn't see the irony in what he said. He talks about me being sad and then doesn't see how sad it really is that he sees himself as worthless without the government.

It's like a crack addict thinking they're getting better with more crack and thanking those that got him addicted to crack in the 1st place.

I guess in the end, the problem solves itself when the crack addict is lying in the gutter.

At least he's got his circus music to listen to

Indeed. Although I think he's really just trolling. No one actually believes that kind of nonsense, they just use it as interwebs banter taking the bizarre extremist viewpoint to extract maximum response. Always better to just ignore than follow the silliness down the rabbit hole.

He might be trolling, maybe he's a 12 year old getting his kicks.

You guys talking about me? The least you could do is use my name. Either way, you are wrong on every account. I am not a basement dweller, except when I'm in the basement-level home office of the house that I own, currently earning in the top 5% of income earners in the US while having a fun job where I don't deal with corporatist bottom-feeders, and instead enjoy every day. Every day at work is filled with laughter, whereas it sounds like you're just churning with anger trying to see which person or field you can knock out of work next, in some sort of revenge plot against those you see as "not worth it". Maybe you and pdqgp could team up.

And maybe you could point out some of my "bizarre extremist viewpoints". But, I bet you can't/won't. Oh but wait...I forgot. You aren't capable of hearing viewpoints that don't match up with your razor-thin narrow view of the world, so you hit the ignore button so you don't have to deal with them. I don't know what could be more "bizarre extremist" than getting excited about seeing the less fortunate in our society get "taken care of" by war and whatever else. I cannot imagine being so utterly miserable and hating so much.

Keep in mind, trolls usually throw in their little quips and phrases without backing up their claims. If you knew me at all, and actually did participate in PRSI (which neither of you do), you'd know that I almost always try to explain my views, often with links, charts, tables, whatever. And I avoid media sources and usually try to use straight government or real non-profit sources, so as not to cloud my view with corporate BS propaganda from the likes of Fox, Breitbart, CSN News, or even AddictingInfo, etc.

 

[zin]

I not only bought my house under 35 by myself, but I managed to pay it off in full in less than 3 years without anyone's help.
That's the difference, I don't wear diapers, I don't cry victim, I don't depend on others for my success.

If you aren't strong enough or smart enough as a human to get things done, that's fine. But some humans are actually strong and smart, they can do things without the government's help.
In fact, that's how America got started we formed a more perfect union. You seem to want a more perfect addiction to what American stood up against.

It's not about crying victim. It's about facing the reality that not everybody is going to run their own business or get a good paying job. It's about facing the reality that a large portion of people on welfare are the elderly, the disabled, children, and students. It's about facing the reality that there will always be a bottom 20%, employed or unemployed (which would comprise mostly the aforementioned groups).

It's also about facing the reality that just because you did it, doesn't mean that the world is black and white and everybody else can do it. People like you who believe poor people are poor because they choose to be really grind on me. When you combine this with your ignorance on the topics of who participates in welfare and the stigma that you associate with people who receive welfare, the grinding is off the charts, especially when you compare those people to "wearing diapers".

You have yet to answer why the most widely used welfare programmes by far, shown in your own link as food stamps, children's school meals, the women and infants programme, and Medicaid, and used by mostly the elderly, children, and the working poor, are so bad. Are these people "wearing diapers"? Are they crying victim? Are they depending on others for success? Is affording food and healthcare really a "success"? Is ensuring your child has a meal at school really a "success"?

 

[samiwas]

I'm pretty sure robots didn't do much of that work... After all, I haven't finished writing my robot programs... YET
Give it time, give it time

Remember a jet airliner can fly itself and a big rig can drive itself. The most common job in most states in the US is a truck driver. Give it time...

Yes. You are talking about things that are "Go from point A to point B" in somewhat controlled spaces. I'll wait and see how your robots take over creative fields like producing the show in your video.

 

[1458279]

About having 15 kids. When the government takes away the downside, they encourage the behavior. This is no different than "too big to fail" it's brought on record mergers because businesses know if they are too big to fail, they are protected. If a woman has 15 kids, she knows she'll get support.

About the debt. The debt stops us from having a robust economy. When 70+ percent of the budget is already claimed for debts, we have little room for expansion. That's part of why most nations have slow growth and we're stuck at about 2 or 3 percent growth.

r selection theory is not childish, it's a proven medical fact. It's backed by brain scans. Did you watch the video link about r/K selection theory... it's a medical fact. Why would you consider it to be an insult? Is a low IQ an insult? No, it's a medical fact, it can be proven just as much as someone can be strong or weak, tall or short, it's just a medical fact.

Changing mandatory spending is a type of default. If the government owes it's people something and "changes the law" that's just another way of saying default. Maybe not full default, but still a type of default on the promise it made to it's people.

Detroit has NOTHING to do with luck. It went from the RICHEST city in the US to one of the poorest and is stuck! The producers left and they won't come back. The low IQ people stayed and aren't smart enough to figure out how to make it work. They simply don't have the brains to figure out how to solve the problem.
It's like giving a child a complex math problem, they just don't get it. Their math skills in their schools have been compared to mentally retarded people.

Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago and many others are exactly comparable. They don't coin money, but they do sell bonds. Investors access the value of those bonds just like fiat currency. It's all based on the economic outlook and it's not looking good for any of them. How long has it been? Decades for all of them. Again, the producers have left.

You assume that people will always value the dollar. When they print more dollars, the value of the dollar drops. It's seems you really don't understand debt.

If what you say were true, why not just print a 100 trillion dollar bill and be done with all debt? Would that not change the value of the dollar? What if they print 100 trillion dollars per second, would the dollar still have the same power? NO! It's called hyper inflation, it becomes worthless.


Ahhh, yes, France is doing just fine
http://www.dw.com/en/frances-flailing-economy-endangering-the-eurozone/a-18072388
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/w...-factories-show-social-schisms-in-france.html

LOL, great analysis there.

"The history of same-sex marriage in the United States dates from the early 1970s, when the first lawsuits seeking legal recognition of same-sex relationships brought the question of civil marriage rights and benefits for same-sex couples to public attention though they proved unsuccessful."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_same-sex_marriage_in_the_United_States

 

[1458279]

Yes. You are talking about things that are "Go from point A to point B" in somewhat controlled spaces. I'll wait and see how your robots take over creative fields like producing the show in your video.

It's called AI. Years ago the same thing was said about Deep Blue / Watson. Then it won in chess and Jeopardy. AI is better at finding medical solution for things than humans are.

As for the show, watch a sitcom, they all end up running the same stories, only the faces change.

Most of life is a rerun.

Japan almost has this nailed, it'll be hard to tell human from robot soon enough.

In the meantime, we'll hire ONE human and copy all the results for the next 10,000 shows.

 

[Eraserhead]

About having 15 kids. When the government takes away the downside, they encourage the behavior. This is no different than "too big to fail" it's brought on record mergers because businesses know if they are too big to fail, they are protected. If a woman has 15 kids, she knows she'll get support.

About the debt. The debt stops us from having a robust economy. When 70+ percent of the budget is already claimed for debts, we have little room for expansion. That's part of why most nations have slow growth and we're stuck at about 2 or 3 percent growth.

r selection theory is not childish, it's a proven medical fact. It's backed by brain scans. Did you watch the video link about r/K selection theory... it's a medical fact. Why would you consider it to be an insult? Is a low IQ an insult? No, it's a medical fact, it can be proven just as much as someone can be strong or weak, tall or short, it's just a medical fact.

Changing mandatory spending is a type of default. If the government owes it's people something and "changes the law" that's just another way of saying default. Maybe not full default, but still a type of default on the promise it made to it's people.

Detroit has NOTHING to do with luck. It went from the RICHEST city in the US to one of the poorest and is stuck! The producers left and they won't come back. The low IQ people stayed and aren't smart enough to figure out how to make it work. They simply don't have the brains to figure out how to solve the problem.
It's like giving a child a complex math problem, they just don't get it. Their math skills in their schools have been compared to mentally retarded people.

Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago and many others are exactly comparable. They don't coin money, but they do sell bonds. Investors access the value of those bonds just like fiat currency. It's all based on the economic outlook and it's not looking good for any of them. How long has it been? Decades for all of them. Again, the producers have left.

You assume that people will always value the dollar. When they print more dollars, the value of the dollar drops. It's seems you really don't understand debt.

If what you say were true, why not just print a 100 trillion dollar bill and be done with all debt? Would that not change the value of the dollar? What if they print 100 trillion dollars per second, would the dollar still have the same power? NO! It's called hyper inflation, it becomes worthless.


Ahhh, yes, France is doing just fine
http://www.dw.com/en/frances-flailing-economy-endangering-the-eurozone/a-18072388
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/w...-factories-show-social-schisms-in-france.html

LOL, great analysis there.

"The history of same-sex marriage in the United States dates from the early 1970s, when the first lawsuits seeking legal recognition of same-sex relationships brought the question of civil marriage rights and benefits for same-sex couples to public attention though they proved unsuccessful."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_same-sex_marriage_in_the_United_States

You do realise that woman with 15 kids is probably the only one in the whole United States?

 

[1458279]

You do realise that woman with 15 kids is probably the only one in the whole United States?

Rewarding bad behavior only encourages more bad behavior. From 1 child to 100, it's still the same bad decisions.
This is the same problem with giving welfare to people from other nations. It encourages more to come. If there was no welfare for them, they wouldn't come.

 

[Eraserhead]

It's called AI. Years ago the same thing was said about Deep Blue / Watson. Then it won in chess and Jeopardy. AI is better at finding medical solution for things than humans are.

As for the show, watch a sitcom, they all end up running the same stories, only the faces change.

Most of life is a rerun.

Japan almost has this nailed, it'll be hard to tell human from robot soon enough.

In the meantime, we'll hire ONE human and copy all the results for the next 10,000 shows.

AI has been about to take over since the 1940s.

 

[Eraserhead]

Rewarding bad behavior only encourages more bad behavior. From 1 child to 100, it's still the same bad decisions.
This is the same problem with giving welfare to people from other nations. It encourages more to come. If there was no welfare for them, they wouldn't come.

If she's the only one bad behaviour isn't being rewarded then.

 

[Dmunjal]

For those who are saying that the US can never go bankrupt, what would happen if interest rates return to their historical norm of around 5%? That's $1T interest on a $4T budget annually. More than defense, more than SS, more than Medicare. How will we make that annual interest payment? We can't.

We will default. Unfortunately, we are taking the lazy way out by inflating our debt.

 

[1458279]

AI has been about to take over since the 1940s.

Same could be said with computers driving big rigs or super computers small enough to put in your pocket. Yet here we are... Smart phones by the 100's of millions all over the world.

 

[zin]

About having 15 kids. When the government takes away the downside, they encourage the behavior. This is no different than "too big to fail" it's brought on record mergers because businesses know if they are too big to fail, they are protected. If a woman has 15 kids, she knows she'll get support.

If this were true then you would expect places that spend more on social protection to suffer from higher fraud rates, correct? Then why doesn't your theory hold up?

About the debt. The debt stops us from having a robust economy. When 70+ percent of the budget is already claimed for debts, we have little room for expansion. That's part of why most nations have slow growth and we're stuck at about 2 or 3 percent growth.

Where are you even getting this information? 70% of the budget does not go to the national debt.

r selection theory is not childish, it's a proven medical fact. It's backed by brain scans. Did you watch the video link about r/K selection theory... it's a medical fact. Why would you consider it to be an insult? Is a low IQ an insult? No, it's a medical fact, it can be proven just as much as someone can be strong or weak, tall or short, it's just a medical fact.

Actually it isn't a medical fact backed by any brain scans. In fact your own link that you posted earlier shows it has been discredited by empirical studies, and entirely replaced by a more modern theory.

Changing mandatory spending is a type of default. If the government owes it's people something and "changes the law" that's just another way of saying default. Maybe not full default, but still a type of default on the promise it made to it's people.

A default? Really? You're really weaseling your way out of this one. Mandatory spending can be changed by changing the law. It's not a default. For instance, the U.S. retirement age has been changed multiple times. This altered mandatory spending from Social Security. It's not a default. You're making up excuses as to why the law cannot simply be changed. It can (and has done hundreds of times for lots of things in the past).

Detroit has NOTHING to do with luck. It went from the RICHEST city in the US to one of the poorest and is stuck! The producers left and they won't come back. The low IQ people stayed and aren't smart enough to figure out how to make it work. They simply don't have the brains to figure out how to solve the problem.
It's like giving a child a complex math problem, they just don't get it. Their math skills in their schools have been compared to mentally retarded people.

The "producers", mostly the automobile companies, left because of global competition. Some went or close to bankruptcy. I'm sure this had nothing to do with its decline. It's common knowledge that Detroit became rich because of its automobile sector, and has declined ever since that sector gradually disappeared. It's really insensitive and inaccurate to say that Detroit is the way it is because it's just full of stupid people.

You assume that people will always value the dollar. When they print more dollars, the value of the dollar drops. It's seems you really don't understand debt.

The value does not drop automatically when more is printed. That isn't the cause of a depreciation in value. The value of the dollar is determined by the demand for it, together with interest rates and the overall position of the U.S. economy (mostly foreign investments). People will likely always value the dollar because there is a near 0% risk that purchasing debt will not be repaid.

If what you say were true, why not just print a 100 trillion dollar bill and be done with all debt? Would that not change the value of the dollar? What if they print 100 trillion dollars per second, would the dollar still have the same power? NO! It's called hyper inflation, it becomes worthless.

Yes, as I've already stated twice, printing that much money would subject the economy to inflation. You aren't reading my posts. I have never advocated printing money to finance day-to-day spending. What I have said and I will say it again is that the U.S. can repay any debt that it incurs. It cannot go bankrupt because it controls its own money, meaning it can always repay debt denominated in U.S. Dollar.

Ahhh, yes, France is doing just fine
http://www.dw.com/en/frances-flailing-economy-endangering-the-eurozone/a-18072388
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/w...-factories-show-social-schisms-in-france.html

France is doing fine (especially given the European problems). It's not doing great, but it's nowhere near collapse.

"The history of same-sex marriage in the United States dates from the early 1970s, when the first lawsuits seeking legal recognition of same-sex relationships brought the question of civil marriage rights and benefits for same-sex couples to public attention though they proved unsuccessful."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_same-sex_marriage_in_the_United_States

Not in the Supreme Court, which is what I said.

 

[1458279]

For those who are saying that the US can never go bankrupt, what would happen if interest rates return to their historical norm of around 5%? That's $1T interest on a $4T budget annually. More than defense, more than SS, more than Medicare. How will we make that annual interest payment? We can't.

We will default. Unfortunately, we are taking the lazy way out by inflating our debt.

Exactly right! Exactly! Almost thought nobody understood basic economics anymore

 

[zin]

For those who are saying that the US can never go bankrupt, what would happen if interest rates return to their historical norm of around 5%? That's $1T interest on a $4T budget annually. More than defense, more than SS, more than Medicare. How will we make that annual interest payment? We can't.

We will default. Unfortunately, we are taking the lazy way out by inflating our debt.

It can't go bankrupt. Bankrupt by definition means being unable to pay debts that have already been incurred. The U.S. can pay any debt that it has incurred because it can always print more money.

Being able to issue new debt, however, which is what you are talking about to finance the budget, is a completely separate issue.

 

[1458279]

If she's the only one bad behaviour isn't being rewarded then.

Except that it is, most everyone knows the process. Have a kid, get cash, have more kids, get more cash.

Come to America, get welfare. Get credit, spend it all, file bankruptcy. Lie to the people, get elected, pay off those that gave you money with taxpayers money.

Keeps going because nobody stands up to stop it.

 

[1458279]

It can't go bankrupt. Bankrupt by definition means being unable to pay debts that have already been incurred. The U.S. can pay any debt that it has incurred because it can always print more money.

Being able to issue new debt, however, which is what you are talking about to finance the budget, is a completely separate issue.

Wrong. A person can be in debt to the point where the payoff time is considered too long. At the current rate that we're paying off the debt, in 100 trillion, billion years, it would still NOT be paid off.

What amount can't ever be paid back? Is there any number that can't be paid back, ever?

 

[Dmunjal]

Default is bankruptcy. That will not happen. We will make our interest payments unlike Greece because we can print the difference.

But we're talking $1T in interest annually not including the principal. The government spends $4T and takes in less than that in revenue. Where will that come from? The Fed will have to print it. This is what Japan is doing. They are stuck because they can NEVER allow interest rates to go up because their Treasury can't afford the interest. Suppressing interest rates indefinitely makes for a weak economy that eventually implodes on itself. This will be our future, unfortunately.

 

[1458279]

The "producers", mostly the automobile companies, left because of global competition. Some went or close to bankruptcy. I'm sure this had nothing to do with its decline. It's common knowledge that Detroit became rich because of its automobile sector, and has declined ever since that sector gradually disappeared. It's really insensitive and inaccurate to say that Detroit is the way it is because it's just full of stupid people.

So nobody produces automobiles any more? No, the system in Detroit just doesn't work. Toyota, Honda and many others are actually making cars here in the US.

IQ is a big factor in human performance. Inaccurate? No, it's true. Look at a map of IQ scores across the nation and across the world. Nobody with a high IQ would bother with Detroit, it's a lost caused, it's been a 1/2 century and they are still not willing to change.

 

[1458279]

Default is bankruptcy. That will not happen. We will make our interest payments unlike Greece because we can print the difference.

But we're talking $1T in interest annually not including the principal. The government spends $4T and takes in less than that in revenue. Where will that come from? The Fed will have to print it. This is what Japan is doing. They are stuck because they can NEVER allow interest rates to go up because their Treasury can't afford the interest. Suppressing interest rates indefinitely makes for a weak economy that eventually implodes on itself. This will be our future, unfortunately.

Once again, spot on! We're stuck and will implode. Some see this, others will never see it until it actually happens. Can't wait to see the look in their faces.

Just like the housing bubble, most in the government had no clue it was happening. They testified that everything was fine and laughed at anyone that said otherwise.

Some people will never learn, their minds are long since closed.

 

[1458279]

Yes France is doing just fine:
http://www.euractiv.com/socialeurope/study-looks-roots-youth-joblessn-news-532719

"The results are striking. In France, youth unemployment has reached a staggering 35%, almost double the UK's 18% rate, according to official figures."

I don't know what pills you take, but DAMMM those must be some strong pills

 

[1458279]

I guess it's really hard for a brain to understand itself.
I alway found it interesting how hard it is for some people to see themselves as they really are.

I guess you have the right to close up your mind as tight as you want to. it won't change the truth.

Remember, no plane ever flew until the 1st plane flew. No plane ever has nor ever will change the laws of physics, the only thing that will ever change is our understand of the laws of physics.

http://disinfo.com/2015/11/politics-hate-deep-inside-red-brain/

 

[1458279]

Here's some scans for you:

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0052970

This reminds me of how people get drawn into scams and cults, they fight so hard against anything that is different from what they think they know.

Jim Jones used this to get many people to kill themselves. It's interesting that people would rather commit suicide than change their views.

People are strange. - Jim Morrison