Just to let you know - yes you can invest and edit raw from your DSLR on an iPad... I personally do my bulk edits and selects on the pad and then do the finals on my laptop. For me it's not close to a replacement BUT it does ADD a ton of flexibility to my photo-life. I can leave only the workhorse desktop at home and only cary a pad. Having a faster speed and a 12.9 inch format - it will make my photo selecting process immensely more enjoyable.
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Tim Cook: iPad Pro Will Replace Notebooks and Desktops for 'Many, Many People'
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Just to let you know - yes you can invest and edit raw from your DSLR on an iPad... I personally do my bulk edits and selects on the pad and then do the finals on my laptop. For me it's not close to a replacement BUT it does ADD a ton of flexibility to my photo-life. I can leave only the workhorse desktop at home and only cary a pad. Having a faster speed and a 12.9 inch format - it will make my photo selecting process immensely more enjoyable.
Right.
Folks seem to be focusing solely on the things that the iPad Pro cannot do vs the PC. I have a MacMini desktop for heavy lifting. Simply because I am interested in the IPP does not mean that I give up on PC's in general.
A part from the heavy lifting stuff the rest is portable. And yes; you can hava file system on the iPP and yes you can run (very robust) Visio and MSP replacements (OmniGroup) and yes Office 365 has a very compelling suite for IPP, and the creative stuff with the pencil - none of that is available for the PC. Quite confident that I can function all day long with IPP.
To do that I have to think out of the box, that's all.
You are not most people, so it does not matter. Apple does not cater to niche users any more, regardless of the fact that it was niche users that kept them alive for years.
I actually do my real work using SolidWorks (3D CAD) and a KBE program called Tacton. These only run on Windows and require a work station. So OS X and IOS and a Surface 4 are out of the questions. But for everything else, and iPad Pro with a keyboard would really suit my needs.
u have split screen on iOS makes things a bit easier.
Tim has rocks in his head if he think a larger screen and a pencil will forget about buying Mac's anymore.. unless external ports come to the tablet, are we suppose to backup 5+ Gig's to the cloud ?
not likely...
having said that, my day to day stuff can eaily go over to iOS only...
I just need to re-jigger my brain with backing up is all ..
Tim has rocks in his head if he think a larger screen and a pencil will forget about buying Mac's anymore.. unless external ports come to the tablet, are we suppose to backup 5+ Gig's to the cloud ?
not likely...
having said that, my day to day stuff can eaily go over to iOS only...
I just need to re-jigger my brain with backing up is all ..
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I agree with you based on the "might's" but I think though if they can replace a desktop with an ipad they would have already done so. The air is also not a desktop and that also makes the point, replacing ipad's and airs is not a desktop replacement. Personally if I could get an air for the same price as an ipad an air would be my air replacement or get an ipad air 2 a.t half the price.
Correct. The criticism of Tim Cook's statement is based on the view that the iPad Pro doesn't bring anything new to those people that the iPad hasn't already brought. If he believes that those people will be forking out $800-$1000 for a tablet then I think he will be disappointed.
Then you are exactly the niche apple is looking for. A somewhat larger ipad a.t twice the price is just for you. I do think it will be a niche though. They will make a ton of money because of the price so it doesn't have to sell like hotcakes.
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Yes, i had similar issues with Airdrop, it has been awful... but, since 9.1 and 10.11.1, it works perfectly (i was shocked!), first time in years. Did you guys try with both the Mac and iOS devices on these versions? =)We (work) tried doing a 4k video recently - started with a 2 minute then split to 2 1 minute - for editing and display for an upcoming conference. Use a work 6S+ (not mine) and tried to AD it to an iMac our Sales group has. Would not work. It would connect but failed to transfer. Had an IBM support guy (does our iOS support) try to help .... no luck. Apple tech support was unable to help remotely and indicated 4k / AirDrop failures was a documented issue. Support recommended cabling it in - we did. The video was not the best - looked choppy. Finally went with a DSLR for our shot and dumped that to the iMac. Came out great. ( I was an observer in this - it was my process improvement that was being shot).
Good to know on iMovie for the iPad. Thx
The question we've been discussing is whether the iPad pro (or any tablet) can REPLACE a laptop/desktop, not whether it can be a secondary device to a more powerful system. But good strawman.
And even when not at my desk, a laptop would work better because of the file system and far more flexible version of Office. Edit: and much better multitasking.
Never got angry, or even mildly agitated. Why are you ascribing to me arguments and attitudes I've never adopted?
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I'm pretty sure Apple needs someone at the helm that actually uses computers like the rest of us do. Tim Cook is *way* out of touch.
“There’s no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share.”
— Steve Ballmer, Microsoft, 2007
I’ll order one tomorrow. It is really what I’ve been waiting for.
I actually do approve of the sandboxed file system that let’s you decide what another app needs to see, and what not. Way cleaner than last century’s approach. Having 100.000 files on a mint OS X install is not user-friendly. Also, easier to learn for newbies.
— Steve Ballmer, Microsoft, 2007
I’ll order one tomorrow. It is really what I’ve been waiting for.
I actually do approve of the sandboxed file system that let’s you decide what another app needs to see, and what not. Way cleaner than last century’s approach. Having 100.000 files on a mint OS X install is not user-friendly. Also, easier to learn for newbies.
Exactly. I wouldn't think of forking out twice the price for an ipad that doesn't add really anything different if I were a casual user. More power to those that can use it, but I think he is overestimating the need.
The thing I wondered when I read Cook's prediction about "many people" was whether Apple plans to make enough for "many people" to buy them - assuming those same "many people" feel like coughing up the cash for an iPP.
I think "many, many" of you are missing Cook's point. He didn't say "Most", he didn't say a "Majority", he didn't evan say "A lot"... He said "Many, many" which is an ambiqious number/statement. As has been said in an earlier post, if you're posting/reading Macrumors, he's not talking about you/us.
Think about who he's talking to... Consumers of content, creative types, email and internet surfers which is probably "many, many"...
Just my .02¢
Coachingguy
Think about who he's talking to... Consumers of content, creative types, email and internet surfers which is probably "many, many"...
Just my .02¢
Coachingguy
Ok, well I'll ask you the same question I keep asking that nobody has yet been able to answer. Who is it that can ditch a laptop for an iPad pro that could NOT ditch a laptop for an iPad Air 2? That is, isn't your argument really about tablets in general rather than the iPad pro in particular? The pro is the same thing we already have, just with a faster processor and a bigger screen.
And Jobs said the 3.5" iphone was the perfect size but this is something different. I see it replacing ipad air's more, but even then most that use ipads do so for portability like sitting on the couch and this will be more awkward to hold and use as a touch device. Especially in the same way as the ipad air's.
The phones getting bigger was different. A lot of people, myself included, were yelling for bigger phones. I have never personally heard anyone want a bigger ipad.
I'm not saying it won't sell, I just think it will be a niche market.
I agree and have stated this. Those that would ditch a desktop for an ipad have mostly already done so. They did it to sit on the couch and use it. This will be an awkward sit on the couch ipad.
More power to those that need and can use it but the casual user that ditched a desktop for an ipad did so for mobility, this ipad I do not believe will fit the bill of the couch users, surfing the internet, playing games. It wouldn't for me, I can't imagine playing touch games on it. Not and enjoying it anyway, with the size and over 50% heavier. Using it on a desktop? Sure, but people dump their desktops for ipads to not do that.
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I don't see the logic in trying to get rid of laptops/desktops. It's like trying to create a substitute when none is needed or apparently wanted. If that were the case, iPad sales wouldn't be lagging.
Does believe they can make more money by NOT selling laptops/desktops? What exactly is the point in pushing people to tablets when the market seems to have spoken on this - via falling iPad sales.
One would think that it's better to have multiple products that are all successful. I just don't get it.
Does believe they can make more money by NOT selling laptops/desktops? What exactly is the point in pushing people to tablets when the market seems to have spoken on this - via falling iPad sales.
One would think that it's better to have multiple products that are all successful. I just don't get it.
College students using Office and more then one program at a time isn't niche user base
that's why iPad sales continue to drop
I would also call the apple watch a niche market so there goes the not catering to them argument.
If Tim keeps racking up less-than-stellar products, IMHO he will be replaced - hopefully with someone who remembers that the reason people buy products is because of quality, service and longevity. It seems Tim only cares about the bottom line and pissing off loyal customers by selling them soldered disposable products (for top dollar) might not be a sustainable business model.
Apple floundered without Steve Jobs and history can repeat itself. If iPhone sales fall, what will Apple have left? Big iPads?
I have also found iPads to be superior to laptops and desktops for writing projects. There are some very good editing and organizing apps for larger writing projects. For really want to use a physical keyboard, there are many Bluetooth keyboards to choose from.
If it were entirely up to Apple, they would keep tablets/phones/notebooks very separate. Apple would not be inching toward a converged device if the competition wasn't gaining some success in the marketplace. This is Apple's attempt to dabble in that space to see if it is enough to make an improvement in things. I suspect that if it doesn't, Apple will make changes to the next generation of iPP to inch it even closer.
The Ipad Pro needs to support external screens and multiple windows & tabs open. And file management has to (be) more robust.
This is a big reason it can't replace the Mac Mini or pc I use.
Also working against the iPad PRo is the iPhone but from the other direction.
I have all the convenience of iOS and a touchscreen in my pocket. Much less need to get an Ipad for that stuff.
That's a big reason Ipad sales have faltered.
This is a big reason it can't replace the Mac Mini or pc I use.
Also working against the iPad PRo is the iPhone but from the other direction.
I have all the convenience of iOS and a touchscreen in my pocket. Much less need to get an Ipad for that stuff.
That's a big reason Ipad sales have faltered.
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