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Ok, well I'll ask you the same question I keep asking that nobody has yet been able to answer. Who is it that can ditch a laptop for an iPad pro that could NOT ditch a laptop for an iPad Air 2? That is, isn't your argument really about tablets in general rather than the iPad pro in particular? The pro is the same thing we already have, just with a faster processor and a bigger screen.

I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that the "Pro" will be considerably more powerful than any other iPad... But, yes, I think many people have ditched a laptop/desktop for a tablet. With the "Pro" they'll just be able to do more...theoretically. And I'm guessing the "Pencil" will be a big (no pun intended) draw for people, not to mention the keyboard - if it's done right. I've got a BT Keyboard for each of my iPads and rarely, if ever use them... But speaking of tablets and iPads, after getting my Mini2, I've used my iPad so rarely, I've forgotten the password for it... I'm totally sold on the Mini form factor and am planning on getting the Mini4 soon.

It's really about using the tool that works for you.

We'll start seeing reviews tomorrow and some will say it's a Life Altering device and some won't; but I still think it'll sell well...

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You don't have to use a computer for CPU-intensive tasks to feel timid about adopting an iPad. I think Tim's vision would be much more compelling if the iPad supported a dock. Maybe I don't need x86, but a bigger monitor and keyboard (let's ignore the mouse for a minute so as not to provoke rage on either side) sure would be cool if I'm going to forego a more traditional computer.
 
I'm sure I read somewhere that there would be an adaptor to charge the pencil with a lightning cable.

Exactly - The "stick it into the iPadPro" was always only intended as emergency charging. Never understood why so many thought it would be the normal charging method.
 
Also working against the iPad PRo is the iPhone but from the other direction. I have all the convenience of iOS and a touchscreen in my pocket. Much less need to get an Ipad for that stuff.
Interesting. I find I'm in the opposite situation. I carry a 5C and my iPad. The 5C hangs on my belt, whereast the 6 was too big to be unobtrusive. It's comfortible enough to use as a phone, where the 6 felt like I was talking into a dinner plate. I keep my iPad in my bag if I want to check the web, or draw, or write, things I felt were too crampt to do on my 6. I guess I just don't like phablets so I traded my 6 for my wife's 5C.
 
Hmm. I think that's what they said about the original iPad. And while for some it has worked out - and clearly the tech and software is now better, I do not think "many" will be replacing their notebooks or (especially) desktops. Then again - who can really quantify "many."
 
So you don't ever use a laptop then, since you need dual monitors and an optical bay, right?
Or could you do a big percentage of your work on something light and thin, then do the rest when you get back to your desk?

If so, an iPad Pro may be useful. If not, then don't buy one. But there's no need to get angry at Tim Cook and Company for making one. How dare they.


I think most people don't think iPad can replace laptop. People aren't really angry at Apple making iPad Pro, it is not that. But for me, Tim Cook is being delusional, I dislike how Apple is going.

Anyway, back to the topic, laptop can have optical drive, it certainly can drive external display. But you cannot do either with iPad, certainly not extending your deskop to other display.


I want make a point, that is iPad Pro probably can do many things laptop and desktop can do, it probably able to satisfy some people. But bing able to do and being easy to do is different. I don't find replacing desktop/laptop with iPad is interesting idea, it is just not as easy as laptop.
 
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Ahead of the launch of the iPad Pro, Apple executives have been doing a series of interviews to drum up excitement and interest in the device. Earlier today, The Independent published an interview with Tim Cook where he shared his thoughts on the Apple Pencil and the iPad Pro's target market.

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This afternoon, The Telegraph published a second interview where Tim Cook spoke further on his vision of the iPad Pro as a PC replacement and how tablets are subsuming the PC market. According to Cook, the iPad Pro will serve as a replacement for a notebook or desktop computer for "many, many people."Cook also said the iPad Pro will be highly appealing to artists and other creatives, pointing towards the ease of use of the Apple Pencil and the iPad Pro's sound system, two features he also highlighted in his earlier interview with The Independent.

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According to Cook, sales of the new Apple TV were "very strong," a sentiment he echoed for the Apple Watch, which will "set a new record this quarter." Cook also said Apple doesn't have plans to introduce sensors or other health features that would cause the FDA to get involved with the device. He didn't rule out the possibility of other products that require FDA approval, like apps.Tim Cook's interview, where he also speaks on the iPad mini 4 and device cannibalization, the health benefits of the Apple Watch, and the possibility of an Apple subscription service is well worth reading over at The Telegraph.

Apple's iPad Pro will go on sale online on Wednesday, November 11. Pricing for the iPad Pro starts at $799 for the entry-level 32GB Wi-Fi only model. A 128GB Wi-Fi only model is available for $949, and a 128GB Wi-Fi + Cellular model is available for $1,079.

Article Link: Tim Cook: iPad Pro Will Replace Notebooks and Desktops for 'Many, Many People'


Hey Tim, I think those nutty protein bars your always eating are going to your head
 
I'm not sure why you're "disappointed". He has a product to sell, he's trying to sell it. If you take "many, many" or whatever he said to mean "millions", he's probably right, even if that's no longer a big number to Apple. What do you expect him to say, "This thing probably is only good for a few people."?
I am not talking about sales, sure they will sell lots. He is saying "many, many" will switch laptop/notebook to iPad pro. That's just a ridiculous statement, even ignorant on his part. I see 5%, maybe 10% max, of sales that will make the switch. It will mostly be artist/designers/etc. Even those guys use multiple screens to do their work.
 
The "many, many people" Tim is talking about are my Aunt from "the sticks", who never really owned a computer in her life. Barely understands what e-mail. However she isn't using an iPad, she's using an Android device because it lets her use external memory cards to store all the photos she gets from family.

Outside of people like her, Tim doesn't get it. A tablet, unless it's a full on tablet computer like the Surface Pro (which the iPad Pro is not), is a secondary device to a full computer. Tablets are used as portable sides to people using Desktops. You either use a Laptop or a Desktop + Tablet these days.

What Apple seems not to be getting is that the single Household computer is on the way back. Tablets are playing as advanced terminals to Service systems. Part of that service system is the Home PC, or advanced Network Attached Storage. Local and reliable storage for things like masses of photos, video, and other kinds of stored digital content. Especially in the LIMITED storage environment of Apple products.

And that's where the iPad (and Pro) will fail as standalones, lack of intuitive local long term storage solutions. Apple is the only company that doesn't support this. Microsoft gets it, all the Android OEMs get it.
 
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"PCs are going to be like trucks. They are still going to be around. However, only one out of x people will need them."
- Steve Jobs

For a lot of people, this idea that only some people need a full fledged laptop or desktop computer is already a reality. Us techie people don't see it though, because we love our computers. We're the truck drivers.

Yup this, unless all your family and friends are computer geeks you would never see it. I mean if it wasn't for my daughters homework I wouldn't even use the pc in my house. My computer work is done at work, home is the leisure hence iPhone and iPad.
 
Aussie pricing is a bit too steep because of exchange rate:

iPad Pro WiFi 32GB $1249
iPad Pro WiFi 128GB $1499
iPad Pro WiFi+4G 128GB $1699

Apple iPad Pro Smart Cover $89
Apple iPad Pro Silicone Case $129
Apple iPad Pro Smart Keyboard $269
Apple Pencil $165
It is toooooo expensive!

I won't buy it until its price tag drops to the point very similar to an iPad Air 2, or even much lower.
 
BUahahaha, Oh Mr Cook. IpAd pro is one hell of an upgrade to the iPad line. It's STILL an iPad.

untll you can fully reproduce
1. Full file system access
2. mouse / cursor
3. Multiple displays / Desktops
4. Ability to run the vast majority of production applications that exist in the world.

you're delusional at best and you're speaking like a piss poor marketer, and not an actual person based in reality.

I think the Pro will be a fantastic tablet for those who can figure out how to use it as a companion device, but it's not giong to be a replacement for a real computer for the vast majority of users..
 
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BUahahaha, Oh Mr Cook. IpAd pro is one hell of an upgrade to the iPad line. It's STILL an iPad.

untll you can fully reproduce
1. Full file system access
2. mouse / cursor
3. Multiple displays / Desktops
4. Ability to run the vast majority of production applications that exist in the world.

you're delusional at best and you're speaking like a piss poor marketer, and not an actual person based in reality.

I think the Pro will be a fantastic tablet for those who can figure out how to use it as a companion device, but it's not giong to be a replacement for a real computer for the vast majority of users..

No he is not delusional - you just don't get that us power users aren't the majority of pc users. Most pc users won't need more then an iPad/iPad Pro as they only do mail, simple office, some photos and web.
 
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