With a more powerful OS, I'd ditch my MacBook for it easily. But right now iOS is way too restricted to replace OS X. Android couldn't either, for the record.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Tim Cook: iPad Pro Will Replace Notebooks and Desktops for 'Many, Many People'
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
That's my take on it too. A Tablet was supposed to be a light small mobile device, primarily for consuming media. If they are now coming in form factors the size of a Notebook without the functionality of that device then what is the point of them?
Surely, apart from those who clearly don't get it, those who do would buy the correct tool for the job i.e. a Notebook/Desktop.
There are those of course that like to buy any new Apple product in order to tick the 'got that one too' box. After a few weeks it will either be sold on or lay unloved gathering dust in a drawer.
Last edited:
It appears to ne unthinkable for some here that some users have just waited for something like the iPad pro - hell it is nearly 900$ below a Wacom Cintiq Companion 2…
It's akin to getting larger and larger expensive phones then sticking them in your pocket and buying a very expensive wristwatch to carry out some of their functions - again why?
Please go back and reread my original comment. I am simply challenging Tim Cook's assertion that the iPad Pro will replace the MPB which is clearly hyperbole. So ask yourself, what is the point of this device? IMO it's nothing more than a tool to generate additional sales these days and little more. Yeah it's great that it's larger and faster and the touch stylus tool is a cool addition, but it's still bound to iOS and not a fully functioning desktop/laptop OS and traditional file storage system. Until Apple evolves the platform to be more like a Surface Pro and it's total capabilities, the iPad Pro as a whole will never come close to replacing the MBP for real work and productivity. It is simply just an extension of the iPad line and nothing else.
If all you need out of your tablet device are iOS apps, email and internet, and have the discretional $$$, please have at it and enjoy yourself.
He didn't say it would replace the MBP, it said it would replace pcs for many people. Is reading comprehension really so low in these forum?
He didn't assert that. (For instance, it won't replace my MB (yet?) because I need Xcode to develop native iPad Pro apps.)
What Tim Cook did say was that the iPad Pro would replace the MB for many. Just 2% of Mac users is over 1 million. Over a million is many. And I can easily see how 2% (probably a lot higher percentage) of all Mac users don't really need a desktop OS (with tiny little checkboxes) on a laptop. I know several people who just can't use their MBA or MBP without reading glasses, the OS X UI has too much tiny stuff.
He said laptops in general. Not MB only. And saying "many" is certainly wrong.
"Many" connotes a large number of people or a majority of people. It will likely sell less than the iPad Air 2 based on the price alone.
Simple propaganda.
I would say "many" refers to an actual number... not a percentage or majority.
Like the earlier poster said... a million iPad Pros is a big number and would certainly qualify as "many" if they indeed sell that amount.
Of course a million iPad Pros would be nothing compared to the 260 million iPads that have already been sold.
But again... I don't think Tim Cook was talking about percentages when he said "many"
Last edited:
Let me ask you a question, why would the iPad Pro be more apt to replace "many peoples" laptops including the MBP, more so than an ordinary iPad? Simple, it wouldn't. This is Tim just trying to drum up excitement and sales for a larger and faster iPad that aside from a stylus, basically offers the same tablet experice and limited by iOS.. That is all.
Yes. Those who surf, email, play games, use Facebook, etc they are the many. They are basic users, who can easily just use a tablet that runs a basic OS. But TC doesn't want to tell the truth/use the word basic.
Everyone agrees that the iPad can replace a laptop for many people. But why is the IPP better in that regard than a regular iPad Air 2? For an additional $300 to boot. Just the big screen?
Tim Cook didn't say this either. Saying the iPad Pro is a suitable replacement primary computing device for many people does not imply that other products (such as an iPad Mini, or even an iPhone) are not for many other people.
There is a significant percentage of the population who do not use their PCs or laptops for any desktop-only power apps, but who might need a specific size of device (an extra large display for someone who needs strong reading glasses, etc., or something more portable, etc.)
Bye.
It seems for some, to criticise Apple is a no no. Apple is god. Well, no. Apple perceives (and I use that word intentionally) that everything just works, but the fact is it doesn't. Bugs are common and now expected.
The statement TC made is incorrect, he forgot to include the word basic users.
But if discussing Apple in a negative way, causes some to get defensive, you should consider whether its Apple bashing, or fact. I don't know how many times I read about the quality decline, Apple TV4 is yet another example of a great but unfinished product that many are complaining about
As long as the competition is equally great at bugs (or has even more) overall, Apple is at no competitive disadvantage.
Yep. The TC comment already applies and has applied for years, for iPads. The pro is nice, its just a bigger iPad. Split View and the pencil are good updates. Larger screen, good. Be great for SVOD. Mini --> iPad --> Pro Its the equivalent of the iPhone 6 Plus, if the larger screen vs the size/weight works for us. Mouse, or a dock that supports additional screen, USB keyboard, full version apps, ability to whip files onto it via HDD/USB drive, expansion of file system with apps as Goodreader does, all those would remove most of the usability shackles that iOS has. Then there is a case for laptop replacement. You don't actually need Windows or OSX, you need the same capability and ease of use
His statement implied that this is now the case for the Pro, implying that it wasn't for the previous iPads
The competition has gone through a period of ever decreasing bugs. Apple is going through a reputation of growing and expected bugs. Thats all fine, except Apple perceives to the market that it has high quality software, but that all puffery these days. There might be a new product, expect 1.0 issue, could be an update, expect teething issues, but for Apple expect bugs, stuff missed out, The Apple TV4 is a perfect example. No remote app, remote hard to use, search is flaky, locate your series by search the you have to scroll through every ep to get to the last one. Categories gone, since partly added back. And this are not even bugs, its unfinished. Ouch. If that was MSFT the Apple lovers will be hammering them, but its Apple, so it all gets defended as ok. It would be poor for MSFT, but for supposedly great Apple its extremely poor.
It Just Works, yeah right
Please go back
Please read my original post in this thread and you will see that you are repeating my primary point.
Please read my original post in this thread and you will see that you are repeating my primary point.
Exactly! That
Exactly my main point, nothing more than that.
Wow... a CEO speaking highly about their own products.
Exactly my main point, nothing more than that.
Pretty much yeah. Ipad pro is a giant ipad mini which is a giant ipod touch.