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Tim Cook Meets EU Antitrust Chief Ahead of iPhone App Sideloading Deadline
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I cant wait until the iPhones become the ultimate game emulation device.
Virtualization on iPad too maybe? 😊
Virtualization on iPad too maybe? 😊
Bypass the app store. Either by loading an alternate app store, or letting me install an .ipa of my choosing, directly.
Good luck with the decisions the EU made for you on AI! It is what it is, again good luck on being left behind!
Hmmm. I doubt you're going to find a better service. We have a great test on the Android side of things, where what you're asking for is available, but very few alternate app stores exist, and the vast majority of developers simply use the play store. But, as I say, I get that this may be your preference for your own reasons, and that the EU is free to pass whatever laws and rules they want.
But...If you think this should be forced on Apple, but not on smaller companies, like Spotify, I wonder at the philosophical justification.
I don't live in the EU, I'm in the US... and extremely disappointed in how our congress is favoring large businesses and their ilk over the people they supposedly represent.
I'd rather be left behind than ran over and mangled. Here is a start, require an opt-in before any AI companies can use data in their training, no matter what said data is or where it comes from.
But why are you upset?
You have a preference. I have a preference. The EU favors your preference, and thus far, the USA favors my preference.
Is your preference more valid than mine? According to what?
That was the original idea behind Android. Google viewed Apple's closed system approach to be a competitive disadvantage because the standard view in the tech world at the time was that the Windows model was what consumers preferred.
It didn't really turn out that way. Android became very successful but not at the expense of Apple. It turned out that the customers who were most likely to spend money on apps were more likely to prefer iOS. So even though iOS had the minority share of the overall global market in terms of installations, it had significantly better sales/revenue for apps.
That's why all the big money players in the tech world decided to lobby the EU, UK and U.S. to try and force Apple to open up their closed system. Their vision of how the mobile market would play out didn't happen so they want to use legislation to force it to work that way.
....Because the US Constitution says "We the people", not "We the companies" or "We the corporations". There should be only one group that congress represents; the people, directly.
Am I not "people?" Or are "the people" only the people who agree with you?
Again, I have a different preference than you. But you seem to think I'm not "the people."
Really?
You are "the people", and I'm not referring to you. Apple is not the people, nor is Google, nor is OpenAI, yet they have an oversized influence on policy, despite not being a person, nor having the right to vote.
The reason the legislation stalled out in Congress was because a lot of the elected representatives were wondering why the legislation shouldn't be applied to the entire market if what Apple or another company were doing was really anticompetitive. That's the current difference versus the EU/UK. EU/UK want certain types of actions to be considered "anticompetitive" only if they're happening above a certain market cap.
No. But you're saying your preference is of "the people" while my preference "is of Apple."
Again, I don't think your argument is based on sound philosophy. I want the choice of a walled-garden, very closed ecosystem. And you're asserting that your preference is somehow "of the People" and mine isn't.
I'm not being cute here. This is a real question. Why is my preference less valid than yours?
I‘m interested. Apple wants everyone to license its gymkit stuff (which relies on a simple OOB pairing) so that you can access heartrate from the Apple watch. This is the only reason why Apple blocks Apps that would transfer heart rate without gymkit.
With sideloading Apple looses the power to do so. For gods sake, Vestager knows how to play hardball.
No body is saying that the Apple App store would not be the biggest one and yes most devs will still use the App store. We can look at the Play store as the perfect example. Most app still go threw the Playstore and if they are offered on other stores they are also still offered on the Play store.
It is more about the choice do not have to route threw the Apple store if one so chooses. A big example would be say I want to make an app for family and friends or want to install at app my friend made. Getting it threw the Apple review could be painful if at all possible for say rejection for not being unique or to centralized. Allow people to side load and put those type of apps out there. It also make testing a new app a hell of a lot easier. Test flight sucks compared to just installing a random IPA and also you have device limitation if you want to install a dev build. They you also have to deal with enterprise certs of other work arounds. That or you set up fake apps in the app store that never get release with different build ids if you want to have a dev and production version and so on.
It is more about having choices.
Your choice and/or preference is as valid as mine. Both of our choices/preferences, individually, should be more valid than Apple's or Google's preference. That is my point.
Ok... so you believe Apple's App Store is a joke and the general public is brainwashed by Apple believing it offers benefits with respect to security and privacy.
That said... would you be opposed to Apple customers, the majority who are not tech savvy, needing to take an extra second pressing an Acknowledge button after being advised that side-loading comes with potential risks with respect to a user's security/privacy?
So, your individual choice should be powerful enough to trump how Apple chooses to do business? How is that feasible? Because I have a different individual choice. So, you and I would cancel each other out, leaving Apple free to operate their business as they choose.
Let's apply your preferece to Spotify. Do you think Spotify should be forced to open their platform? To allow any artist to list their music on Spotify, but use a different payment processor or be able to direct buyers to an alternate store?
Google claimed that Android was an "open" system originally but over the years they made changes to make it harder and harder for alternatives to the Play Store to operate. It was a response to iOS generating more revenue from apps with a smaller marketshare. That's really what the EU/UK should be focusing on: make Google do what they originally claimed they were doing. If Android were really "open", then it wouldn't matter that iOS was "closed".
All you seem to be saying here is that the "fix" you want implemented exists on the Android platform, and that it has almost zero effect. If your fix has next to no effect, which is proven overwhelmingly on the android platform, then I wonder at the real purpose of all of this. Are you just wanting your preference to be law while my preference is outlawed? As it stands, your preference exists (Android) and my preference exists (Apple).
So, your choice is valid and mine isn't. So much so that you're wanting a huge government agency to enforce, by law, your preference, and veto my preference by law. So, not really about "choice," right?
You could "choose" to develop it on the Android platform. That's a choice, no?
As long as it's your choice, not mine. Correct?
Also, do you support "choice" in Spotify? Should you have the choice to find artists on their platform but pay for their music through a different means?
Regulators and governments should not be cuddling up to business. Tim Cook, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, the litany of anonymous billionaires who don't want their names known. I'm sure Tim can turn on the charm, and this world is all about "relationships," but while the high-and-mighty are schmoozing and boozing, the rest of us get ****ed.
Vengeance is ours, we will repay.
Vengeance is ours, we will repay.
So you oppose the fact that the EU has been lobbied heavily by Spotify?
Who is the "we" you're referring to in "we will repay?"
The picture of the two of them looks like an episode of Black Mirror.
I bought multiple Apple devices BECAUSE they are not open. I want Apple to lock it down, I had multiple android devices and I have a windows computer. I want to be able to choose Apple.